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  • #1216
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    justin_ator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7688

    Re: FFR Suggestions

    You all argue Standalone details and Gamebooster effectiveness as if it's a science with reoccuring results that never change. Lol. Everyone's computer is going to run it differently...to a lot of people, myself included, Gamebooster isn't going to do anything helpful. I don't run very much outside of FFR when I play FFR, so GB is just a waste of time for me. I play on Flash 9, because it runs smoother on my computer with the current FFR engine. That doesn't mean somebody else's won't run it faster or better on Flash 10... 10 doesn't ever crash for me. It just lags. Therefore I choose not to use it. I can totally believe that some of you have no issues with 10 whatsoever. Why do we need to argue about it? It's as simple as this:

    Download Flash 8, Flash 9, and Flash 10. Run the swf in each of them and play a few songs. Pick which one works best. Still having problems? Try Gamebooster. Doesn't work? Get rid of it and move on. Nobody can look through your computer specs and say "Oh, yeah, you'll need Flash 9 and Gamebooster." It's not a standard or anything we can set without the computer sitting in front of us to test it.

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    • #1217
      aka Haku
      Hakulyte
      • Jul 2005
      • 4750

      Re: FFR Suggestions

      Originally posted by qqwref
      A suggestion for the FFR rules: top players (anyone who is AAAing FMOs and above) shouldn't be allowed to get good scores on more than one account. The reasoning is that it's simply unfair to other people who are below them in the ranks. Without this rule, there's really nothing to stop someone from making the AAA count of a song shoot up, and ruin everyone's rank.

      I think the penalty should be to blacklist the alt. The player should be allowed to transfer the scores to their main if they want, but the alt should definitely be blacklisted. If the alt is that of another actual player, any scores that look like they were gotten by the good player should be removed, but they shouldn't be blacklisted (it might not be their fault).
      I definitely agree and was hoping that something would be done with my alt already. I mean, there's not an army of people with alts who can AAA FMOs and higher. If that was done on the whole difficulty scale I could understand that it's overdoing it, but if we start here it's not so bad.

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      • #1218
        stepmania archaeologist
        FFR Simfile Author
        qqwref
        • Aug 2005
        • 4096

        Re: FFR Suggestions

        Originally posted by jimerax
        The definition of "top player" is kinda vague and unfair imo, so to be clear:
        "getting a TOP 100 (this number can be lowered tho) score or an AAA on 2 or more account in a song is not allowed"

        We have to deal with whole things about this manually so this might be the biggest issue though.
        100 sounds pretty reasonable.

        BTW: Ziergdsx = Reimu- = Cirno- = Yukari- = Yuyuko-sama (new main account?)
        there's also Etylukah/Hakulyte, Dragon Shot/Velocity, FR_Zappy/Zap_Track/Xayphon, OhiImMasterOfTheTaco/MasterOfTheTaco (guessing both are BS), V-Ormix/TC_ORMIX/FR_ORMIX(probably)
        and other alts: WTF WRECKED, ~ 5~, .-., hakase(?), STEPMANIA POLICE, samurai7694_VC, ffdfadsdasd2, Yuyuko- (not zierg), youbad
        Feel free to dispute any of these, I don't have IP checking or anything like that.

        EDIT: Another one: Herogashix(main)/FGO/Travis deJong
        EDIT: Cataclysmt (= krunkykai22?)
        Last edited by qqwref; 08-30-2011, 02:19 PM.
        Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
        Best SDG: PANTS (86)
        Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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        • #1219
          Mrow~
          PaperclipGames
          • May 2008
          • 648

          Re: FFR Suggestions

          Originally posted by qqwref
          A suggestion for the FFR rules: top players (anyone who is AAAing FMOs and above) shouldn't be allowed to get good scores on more than one account. The reasoning is that it's simply unfair to other people who are below them in the ranks. Without this rule, there's really nothing to stop someone from making the AAA count of a song shoot up, and ruin everyone's rank.

          I think the penalty should be to blacklist the alt. The player should be allowed to transfer the scores to their main if they want, but the alt should definitely be blacklisted. If the alt is that of another actual player, any scores that look like they were gotten by the good player should be removed, but they shouldn't be blacklisted (it might not be their fault).
          I second this, although the line can get quite unclear this way. If you only give a penalty to alts that AAAs FMOs and higher but not to people who are slightly less pro, that would be unfair.

          Shouldn't it be forbidden to even have an alt in the first place?
          948 AAAs | 1461 FCs | 549 TPs | 7 FMO AAAs
          Best AAAs: Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star (69), Nous (69), Pure Ruby (68), Heavenly Spores (68), Ambient Angels (66), Within Life (66), Defection (66) Southern Cross (65)

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          • #1220
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            rushyrulz
            • Feb 2006
            • 13109

            Re: FFR Suggestions

            Originally posted by jimerax
            The definition of "top player" is kinda vague and unfair imo, so to be clear:
            "getting a TOP 100 (this number can be lowered tho) score or an AAA on 2 or more account in a song is not allowed"

            We have to deal with whole things about this manually so this might be the biggest issue though.
            I'd say top 200 for the simple fact that the FFR leaderboards show the top 200 players on any given song.


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            • #1221
              FFR Player
              Xx{Midnight}xX
              • Aug 2007
              • 8548

              Re: FFR Suggestions

              200 is more reasonable.

              Also jon would you be able to code a log in for the legacy engine as well? I feel that might solve a few lag issues with everyone else to.

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              • #1222
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                TC_Halogen
                • Feb 2008
                • 19510

                Re: FFR Suggestions

                The whole issue with trying to catch people on alternate accounts is that there are some instances where multiple people can get decent scores on the same account.

                Manual checking would involve a person needing to get a video camera showing the players in question, and then a person can try to say that they don't have a camera.

                It's an endless process.

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                • #1223
                  165th Top Average Player
                  raskanally
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 292

                  Re: FFR Suggestions

                  Is there a way to cross check ip's with scores obtained?
                  It is possible for people of the same skill level to play from the same ip, but its a lot fewer.
                  I believe it would show patterns after a while.
                  Maybe not.
                  Just a thought.

                  Still just Smashing away

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                  • #1224
                    stepmania archaeologist
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    qqwref
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 4096

                    Re: FFR Suggestions

                    It might be an interesting experiment to actually record IPs per score, rather than just a list of IPs used by a given account. Of course, this would be a little tricky for the database.

                    Perhaps when a new IP for an account is recorded, the first bunch (up to 50?) of new level records achieved with that IP could be saved...
                    Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                    Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                    Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                    • #1225
                      165th Top Average Player
                      raskanally
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 292

                      Re: FFR Suggestions

                      On a side note.
                      What if people "register" where they play so-to-speak.
                      Have it be part of the login maybe. Kind of like a login server for an MMO.
                      There would be a button for where you were playing.
                      Probably one for "Home", "School". That kind of thing.\
                      And have it have a different db sheet for each button.
                      It would make ip logging vs. scores a little easier i think.

                      And can we go through the user database and unless they sent a message or someone else knows what happened to them i think we should delete the users and try and get an accurate number on active members.
                      Last edited by raskanally; 08-30-2011, 09:56 PM. Reason: forgot a thought..again

                      Still just Smashing away

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                      • #1226
                        FFR Veteran
                        Ground_Breaker
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 789

                        Re: FFR Suggestions

                        I didn't read through the entire thread...62 pages of suggestions would just worsen my 5am headache.

                        Nothing against the artist of the loop that we currently have on the menu screen, but if I want to choose my own menu music, can I be able do that with any of the songs I have currently unlocked? I would get nerd chills every time I played FFR if I turned it on and Gradeus started playing.
                        fgsfds

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                        • #1227
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                          Frederic54
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 243

                          Re: FFR Suggestions

                          Originally posted by Ground_Breaker
                          I didn't read through the entire thread...62 pages of suggestions would just worsen my 5am headache.

                          Nothing against the artist of the loop that we currently have on the menu screen, but if I want to choose my own menu music, can I be able do that with any of the songs I have currently unlocked? I would get nerd chills every time I played FFR if I turned it on and Gradeus started playing.
                          You can already do that on the Velocity engine, you can put any song you have unlocked on FFR or even a mp3 or youtube link.

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                          • #1228
                            Very Grave Indeed
                            Community Manager
                            Event Staff
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            devonin
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 10142

                            Re: FFR Suggestions

                            And can we go through the user database and unless they sent a message or someone else knows what happened to them i think we should delete the users and try and get an accurate number on active members.
                            We already have this information. We're averaging about 1000 users per day logging in, with about 140 new registrations per day.

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                            • #1229
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                              justin_ator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 7688

                              Re: FFR Suggestions

                              100 of which are probably alts -.-

                              Although I also agree it would be nice if we could clean up the 1,772,529 member count to only include semi-active members, I honestly don't see any possible way to do it without deleting accounts of people who are part of this game but just haven't been around in a while.

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                              • #1230
                                Digital Dancing!
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                rushyrulz
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 13109

                                Re: FFR Suggestions

                                1,772,529 looks more impressive than 2000


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