New Songs: February 16th, 2012

[bmah]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

@rushy: You could've saved yourself the long paragraph by simply noting "it's not my style". I'm perfectly fine with your preferences in stepping. I first and foremost step files for myself so while I do consider the replayability for other players, ultimately it has to be a file that I like. The files are my vision, and I'm not your servant.

And god forbid you think I'm some sort of gang leader of the evil FFR triad haha. I'm stepping for myself, and am not trying to influence others to step my style. We have our differences, but you certainly go out of your way to throw your weight around rushy. You can get your point across without the conspiracy nonsense.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

whoever first coined the term should be shot

edit@below: yeah and I didn't use cameljacks...now the "term" is being misused, stop spreading the infamy! >:[

It's like the idiot who called AntiPA Antiskill.

They should be shot as well.

[MarioNintendo]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

@Rushyrulz

It would obviously be easier to spread your style by stepping more songs yourself instead of asking other steppers to have your vision of a file. Scavenger was fun, but how about a new one? In other words, how about you overthrow the Goliath that Bmah is by stepping the song he would choose your way (this is a stupid way of spreading your style but it'd work, I guess)? That Bmah guy <3

Be the ring leader. The 2012 FFR champion. Your style? Our style. Firststyle.

(this post isn't all that serious and was more just an excuse to post something in this thread because I haven't had time to play those songs. I am sure I'm going to enjoy them as always, though. Kudos to icy for his first song....... on FFR!)

[rushyrulz]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Sorry I overreacted a little bit, my rage bubble finally popped after swelling since the start of the official.

@Rushyrulz

It would obviously be easier to spread your style by stepping more songs yourself instead of asking other steppers to have your vision of a file. Scavenger was fun, but how about a new one? In other words, how about you overthrow the Goliath that Bmah is by stepping the song he would choose your way (this is a stupid way of spreading your style but it'd work, I guess)? That Bmah guy <3

I composed Scavenger, Plan_B stepped it. 90% of the files I step stay in stepmania because I truly do step for myself. My file that's currently in the queue is very much my style. Some call it straightforward and boring, but I happen to love straightforward files.

[MarioNintendo]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

lol wow... So you actually don't have a file you stepped in game. But you do at the same time; you have a file that just got in queue. I thought it was quite the opposite. Somehow, it took me that much time to realize I can't even read right xD Well, that post really was pointless. . Looking forward to playing your boring file!

[ninjaKIWI]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

I can't help but notice that everyone around here is pretty black and white about stepping styles. It either HAS to be straightforward, or HAS to be technical. I don't get why nobody can ever like both.

[MarioNintendo]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

I can't help but notice that everyone around here is pretty black and white about stepping styles. It either HAS to be straightforward, or HAS to be technical. I don't get why nobody can ever like both.

I don't think it's about liking, but more about preference. For example, I don't hate marathon files, but I prefer shorter files. I prefer simpler layering to too much of it, but, then again, I won't go on saying I hate every file that has difficulty spikes/overstepped parts.

In terms of preference, though, I believe one either likes technical or not technical. It can change in time, but you have to have an opinion... To that effect, anyone that posts a review of some file has to have an opinion, and therefore his subjective preferences (oh no not that subjective debate again xP)

[Elite Ninja]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Imaginiary Sky - This was unexpectedly fun for a low level.

Etude on a Nimbus - I love JS so I loved this file <3. It was fun to play haha.

I breathe the cosmos - I can't really say what I prefer since I like straightforward and short songs but I love and hate technical charts at the same time. This one I happen to not like probably because I didn't care too much for some of the music (some parts I liked and some I didn't). I currently have a BF on it because of some 32nd pattern at the end that screws me up everytime. The cameljack thing everyone is complaining about I always luck out and nail it haha.

Mahou no Fu - OMG those jacks are super rage bait..... only played it once but I do remember that I loved the JS. The jacks seem to be the only problem I have haha. x.x

[bmah]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Thanks for using the proper terms MarioNintendo. The degree of technicality is dependent on personal preferences. On one end of the scale there is satisfaction for how well-represented a file goes to the music. On the other end of the scale there is satisfaction for how well the file physically feels to your fingers. The ideal case is to incorporate both.

I want to correct yet another unfortunate misuse of terms: "straightforward" vs "technical". Technicality is NOT a synonym for awkwardness, but clearly the misuse of terms is trying to insinuate that and put a bad rep on the word. Technicality is simply defined as the relevance of a file to the music. That's it. People should avoid misusing this word for scare tactics to get players stepping the way -you- like it. Some people like technicality more because that simply means they like the relevancy in their stepping; it's wrong to say it's a love for awkwardness.

[00Razor00]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

I like technicality, blow me.

Ontopic:

Etude On a Nimbus: Fun. Typical icyworld js file. No real commentary here.

No Fu: Super fun, dense jumpstream followed by rage inducing jacks. The last jump before the file ends is an error, I believe. Kinda noticeable, but meh.

Haven't played the others yet. :P

[MBurns]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Glad to see my song made it in and that people appreciate the music behind the awesome stepping work Icy did

[hi19hi19]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Technicality is NOT a synonym for awkwardness, but clearly the misuse of terms is trying to insinuate that and put a bad rep on the word. Technicality is simply defined as the relevance of a file to the music. That's it. People should avoid misusing this word for scare tactics to get players stepping the way -you- like it. Some people like technicality more because that simply means they like the relevancy in their stepping; it's wrong to say it's a love for awkwardness.

You realize a lot of people DO use technicality to mean "anything that doesn't flow well" i.e. a synonym for awkwardness.
Just because it's not your vision of the word isn't stopping a good portion of the community from using it in a different capacity.

Technicality in the sense of "following the music exactly" overlaps with technicality in the sense of "patterns that do not flow well" when you take it to the extreme. A low tone that sounds, quickly goes up a pitch, then returns to the original pitch might be most accurately (and thus technically) be charted as 121, but that doesn't mean it's not an obnoxious pattern that doesn't flow well for spread at high speeds. People who favor less technical stepping might use a pattern like 131 because a 2-handed pattern flows much better for spread players.
And thus the overlap between the two uses of the word.

[rushyrulz]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Technicality is NOT a synonym for awkwardness, but clearly the misuse of terms is trying to insinuate that and put a bad rep on the word. Technicality is simply defined as the relevance of a file to the music. That's it. People should avoid misusing this word for scare tactics to get players stepping the way -you- like it. Some people like technicality more because that simply means they like the relevancy in their stepping; it's wrong to say it's a love for awkwardness.

Technicality only becomes awkward when it's overdone. I've been known to be an offender myself by stepping PR too literally, but I've learned that it's okay to sacrifice a pattern that might be perfectly justified with PR for the sake of better flow, resulting in what is, in my opinion, a better and more fun file. After all, the 'rules' so to speak of stepping aren't too strict and mostly up for interpretation (to a certain extent, obviously).

[DarkZtar]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Glad to see a lot of people enjoying Imaginary Sky xD.

Maybe I should stick to submitting a easy stuff instead of sending a bunch of superlayered ssh files. =P

[MaxGhost]

Re: New Songs: February 16th, 2012

Glad to see a lot of people enjoying Imaginary Sky xD.

Maybe I should stick to submitting a easy stuff instead of sending a bunch of superlayered ssh files. =P

Yes please, SSH is boring :/ I do REALLY like your file, it's a very clean, simple file with nice grace notes and mini-jacks that really do fit. I'd actually like to see a Heavy version of this or something, i.e. a difficulty 5 or 6. I think it would work nicely.

Etude On A Nimbus is amazing.

Mahou no Fou's jacks are retarded and like hi19 said, the JS doesn't flow that well imho. For once I kinda agree with Middie and I feel like every sound was stepped lol.

I breathe the cosmos was really nice. I only thought the intro was awkward with the actual placement of the arrows vs the sound, but that's just me. Great file.