How to get (really) good at FFR

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  • SocoNhydro420
    FFR Veteran
    • Oct 2008
    • 915

    #31
    Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

    Yeah I feel that a laptop keyboard would do me a lot better since its easier to press the keys, and therefore increase my speed, but my laptop is way too laggy to get SDGs/AAAs on FMOs like I do normally. Maybe ill go keyboard shopping one day
    Last edited by SocoNhydro420; 05-28-2011, 06:00 PM. Reason: spelling derp

    MUST... AAA...

    FMO AAAs (27): Epidermis, Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star, Rottel-da-station, Disconnected Hardkore, Melonmans OP, Battle Theme #37, Fast Asleep, Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio, Puzzle, Midnight Dragon, Distorted God, Variations 2, Strangeprogram, Arrogant Cobbler, Kanon Medly ~Metal Wings~, Dance and Zeal, Heavenly Spores, Document 13b, The Divine Suicide of K, Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze, Summer Time Perfume, Chaosmaid, Colorful Course, O (piano version), Ambient Angels, Defection, Jeanie and Caroline

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    • fullmetal_alchemist027
      Don't make me stalk you
      • Jul 2005
      • 265

      #32
      Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

      Ive hit this sort of...bleh spot in my FFR playing after coming back where it felt like I wasnt able to do anything. I tried several different setups, but they never felt right. I was always an index player till about 3 years in and then i needed to switch to spread because I was severely limited.

      But even now, spread felt unnatural, but then Marcus (if I may), you made the point of standard spread being suboptimal and it got me thinking again. So this time I tried FV BH for the keysetup, and I can already feel that this is the way I needed to go to start the road of improvement. So thank you

      OT:I dont remember if its been said or not, but unless it works for you, DONT BEAT YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL. If the song isnt clicking, play something else for a while, take a break, then come back to it. Or if that fails, as it was stated, Mirror Mode!


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      • DossarLX ODI
        Batch Manager
        Game Manager
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2008
        • 15010

        #33
        Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

        Isolation hasn't helped me worth shit in most cases. Sorry, but that anchoring jack pattern in Revo is just impossible no matter what I do - there's just no way to cut through it.

        The only time isolation has really helped me was the ending of Death Piano and the roll transitions near the beginning of RATO. Usually what happens is that I record my run and look at a certain pattern, and then do it from there. Isolation focuses too much on one part that I actually wind up forgetting about the other parts and they just come back and bite me in the ass.

        For example, by "observing patterns" I mean something like this:



        This made the transition much smoother. Something like Revo's [34][14][34][14] however is something that can't be viewed differently, it's an anchoring pattern I've never been able to do.

        Pattern flexibility is most important. You can have insane speed and jacking, but still do shit on certain patterns.

        My tips? Use 1.75x and the setup DFJK or M,./ (really tight spread to switch to index on certain files, like AIM Anthem). Also get a flat keyboard and have fun on stepmania with fast files. I didn't even have to "practice" on certain files, I just wound up playing a wide variety of "dumpfiles" and just got better. It should be important to note that I didn't even get into playing FFR competitively until recently (avrank mission, etc. before I didn't even have half the songs in the game FC'd because I didn't really care about the game haha).
        Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 05-28-2011, 07:16 PM.
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • Sweagen
          FFR Veteran
          • Jun 2008
          • 333

          #34
          Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

          The main problem imo is lag
          If you have lag of any sort you will always be inconsistent and improving will be a lot slower .... >:O

          I bet a lot of people have way more lag affecting their PA than they think.

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          • DossarLX ODI
            Batch Manager
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2008
            • 15010

            #35
            Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

            Yes. Lag can be a huge problem too. Usually when I play FFR all I have is AIM open and then the standalone for the game .swf, more processes could eat up a lot of CPU usage (other factors can affect lag as well, of course). For me Velocity's engine gets really laggy sometimes so I usually use the normal .swf (1220, legacy engine)
            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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            • OneHandNow
              Banned
              • Sep 2006
              • 5305

              #36
              Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

              When I play FFR, I turn off EVERYTHING else to ensure I get no lag spikes or anything to mess up my runs. :P

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              • smartdude1212
                2 is poo
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2005
                • 6687

                #37
                Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                I still favour my sdef/2468 setup. You can get away with spread, index, four finger, etc., without having a finger orgy.

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                • kmay
                  Don't forget me
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6532

                  #38
                  Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                  i think plateau's are all mental, but i will let you know if i ever get that dam elusive FMO AAA.

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                  • XCV
                    has nice tits
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 744

                    #39
                    Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                    Oh my god Dossar style spread works so well on AIM Anthem. Just dropped 1,500 ranks on it. Thank you so much - I'd been playing it for a long time, then switched back to ASKL.

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                    • YoshL
                      Celestial Harbor
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 6156

                      #40
                      Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                      Originally posted by XCV
                      Oh my god Dossar style spread works so well on AIM Anthem. Just dropped 1,500 ranks on it. Thank you so much - I'd been playing it for a long time, then switched back to ASKL.
                      tell the truth, i did something strange with AIM. I'm not sure how it worked out for me... but with the [34][14][34][14] pattern, i did a sort of jumptrill with my right hand, hitting [34] then [145] the 5 coming from the key to the right of the [4] key. just... kinda weird :P

                      Originally posted by kmay
                      i think plateau's are all mental, but i will let you know if i ever get that dam elusive FMO AAA.
                      speaking of which...


                      Originally posted by Charu
                      Only yours, for an easy price of $19.99! You too can experience the wonders of full motion rump sticking.

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                      • MaxGhost
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2141

                        #41
                        Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                        Yoshl that's genious. O_O

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                        • LJRoX
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2762

                          #42
                          Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                          ^^^^^ This


                          0 got me into 6 key no lie
                          after watching his video
                          i was inspired

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                          • YoshL
                            Celestial Harbor
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6156

                            #43
                            Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                            Originally posted by MaxGhost
                            Yoshl that's genious. O_O
                            i'm fairly sure it's spelled genius.


                            Originally posted by Charu
                            Only yours, for an easy price of $19.99! You too can experience the wonders of full motion rump sticking.

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                            • customstuff
                              ♥C.S. + A.M.♥
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4892

                              #44
                              Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                              Originally posted by Reincarnate
                              That's another good point -- sometimes people play files on Mirror because it helps kill off any bad habits you may have developed in your muscle memory when it comes to difficult portions of a file.
                              I did this on Frictional Nevada and changed my 9 goods to a AAA in less than half an hour.

                              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
                              Placements are final, custom will not be moved to D6, just because he is good at jacks, and mediocre at just about every other FMO in the game.
                              Originally posted by customstuff
                              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
                              welcome to D6

                              start playing

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                              • x_lambourghini_x
                                Nope. Chuck Testa.
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 288

                                #45
                                Re: How to get (really) good at FFR

                                My main problem is the fact that I need to learn not to mash almost every single song in the game.
                                Everyday I'm shufflin'


                                New tournament hopefully coming up in the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned for more details.

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