R1 - Actual Song Difficulties (game is inaccurate)

[Tasselfoot]

chardish... 100 bar blackout has about 30-35 really fast doubletons (either 16ths or 32nds, i don't know) throughout the song... and therefore, shouldn't be in beginner. i still have a hard time FCing it every time, and i'm currently #1 ranked on that song with 5 goods... aka, i doubt it can be PCed.

[87x]

you shouldn't of said that you got #1 on that with 5 goods.. people are going to try and rape that song now..

anyway.. good job chardish.. i found your lists to be accurate (of what I saw), but to divide all of our songs into only 6 different catagories.. might be a but off.. see.. with some of those songs, they fit there catagories but are still uncomparable to the other songs in its group.... for example.. molto vivace compared to hellbeat.. Fotbb compared to revolutionary etude.. maybe a 7th or 8th catagorey is needed.. but.. thats just my opinion..


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[Kilgamayan]

I propose the new category 87x suggested is called "WTF".

[lightdarkness]

Great system, addapt it synth!

[User6773]

87x, I know 6 categories is a very small number. However, it seems like the more categories there are the more debate emerges over what falls into what categories. If we have 15 levels of difficulty like on SM, it will be difficult for people to decide "Hmm, is this a 9 or a 10" etc.

In addition, stepfile makers are responsible for determining the difficulty of their song. This is a lot easier to do when they only have 6 choices instead of a larger number. True, Hellbeat is nothing when compared to Molto Vivace, but the point is, both of those songs are unquestionably harder than anything in the lower 5 categories. Unquestionably is the key word here. The more categories there are, the more ambiguous the difficulties get.

[Privateer]

I completely agree with Chardish on this one. 6 is a good number.

[jimerax]

you still forget some songs, chardish.

that 6 categories is easy to understand the difficulty, so it's nice.
it's hard to determine the difficulties objectively though.

[User6773]

It's hard to determine difficulties objectively, right. How is a song "easy" or "hard" when you have nothing to compare it to?

This system creates watermarks for comparison, unlike the current difficulty system, where difficulties are assigned seemingly arbitrarily.

[EmperorSteele]

Well, people who make stepfiles just have to not be retards when it comes to ranking their files. That'd solve everything.

"Bubble man" very difficult. pft.. No offense to the author who made that, but... what were you on? Yes, its very difficult... to FC. But good lord man... I almost fced that song the FIRST TIME I PLAYED IT.. and i SUCK! But i missed the one arrow i miss EVERY time and yeah, so much for that -_-

I think that, if anything, an arbatrary group of people form ALL levels of ability should be consulted given any new ranking system, or revision of the old one.

And actually, there WAS a 1-foot song.. it was the tutorial =P I played it once.. i couldn't FC it ;_;

And like others have said, there is a VERY significant diference between some of the songs in these catagories as you hve assigned them. Now, I'm assuming you're a good player, and i give you props for that.. but it is for this reason you seem unable to grasp the differences between songs such as "mario" and "For who i am", for instance. (one has one or two arrows every 3 seconds... the other goes into a moderate mashing fit, and then offbeat at that. his is a SIGNIFICANT -even tho i kant spell- difference, my friend. -HOWEVER-, FWIA is by no means anything past "easy", but it's certainly not "begginer", either).

So basically, You'd need a n00b such as myself to help judge what songs are "easiy" "easier" "Easiest" and "WTF this is SO not easy, you pricks!". I realize that most people who'd play this game are peopel who've also enjoyed a few good rounds of DDR, Stepmania, etc, and could probably tackle some of the more advanced songs their first time here. However, they then do not qualify as begginers, so we don't need to throw more challenging songs in a difficulty level with that rating in there just to appease such people.

Though, as a counter to what i just said, perhaps we needn't baby people, either. So what if someone comes in, plays a few games and starts crying that "Skelly bones" is "so much harder" than "Actvity unbroken", they'll get better, right?

Well, i've been playing this game for months: I think i've only ever FCed mario. Once. And it wasn't even an APFC. So not everyone's going to get better to the poitn where they'll think all these songs belong int eh same bracket.

And Bubbleman easy? That's stretching it. Yes, it's easy to pass, but like I said, FCing it is a biiiiiiiaaaaaatch and deserves a higher ranking, just for that.

And those intermediate songs? I know I've dissed my own ability plenty already, but I'd like to consider myself an intermediate player by this point... but i guess i can't, seeing as half the songs you have in that bracket i can't pass. I mean, "Intermediate" doesn't sound to threatening, and yet.. ugh. I dunno what I'm even rambling about anymore.

In short: I must respecfully disagree with this idea. I'm not saying it's not good: I think that for better players, or if one wishes to generalize, then it's a great list, but i do not beleive it is pratical and truly representative of each song's true difficulty, and would hense create further gameplay problems.

Though we should do away with "feet". Peopel dont play this game with their toes, I don't think =/

[Tasselfoot]

i think you just stink Steele. no offense... you can't even pass some of the songs in intermediate?

[User6773]

Steele, I used my head when I came up with these ratings. I looked at questions such as:

1) How many arrows are there in the song?
2) How spread apart are they?
3) How fast do they come up the screen?
4) Is the song ~generally hard~, or does it just have one hard section a newbie could get through with a few misses?

And no offense, Steele, but unless you can pass almost all the songs in the game, it's hard for you to be an objective arbiter of difficulty. I bet you couldn't even tell me whether Molto Vivace or Revolutionary Etude is harder.

[sugarman]

I think that there are 1 couple of songs harder than AIM anthem. Molto Vivance or Caprice for instance. Nice work overall though.

[sugarman]

I think the master rating should be Guru instead

[plasmix]

Expert: Difficult to read songs that are still doable, though not FC'able

Every single Expert song is FC'able. (aside from glitched arrows)

[User6773]

Plasmix: I meant "by most people" when I said that. Most people can't FC Expert songs.