Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

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  • Card Man
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2008
    • 645

    #16
    Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

    I would love credits to not have a cap. It would just make the game for fun; especially for harder songs. Having a cap makes a hard song the same as a very hard song because it doesn't matter anymore when you reach 40. Well, this is just my opinion.

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    • awein999
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      • Oct 2007
      • 4647

      #17
      Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

      I would like to see it removed completely...if I play fflbf I think I should get more credits than shining little star or something like that. I mean it takes like 6 billion points or so as it is to get to 100k credits so it's not like they are close to too plentiful or anything. And BECAUSE they are sooo easy to get it makes it annoying after a while. Maybe additional credits could be added depending on how good your pa is on certain songs...
      Originally posted by Staiain
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      • x After Dawn x
        FFR Veteran
        • Jul 2007
        • 1613

        #18
        Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

        Originally posted by Sprite-
        Don't speak if you don't know the facts.
        I meant it's not going to change any time soon...as far as I know, the admins are busy working on other things with the game and have higher priorities on what to fix (such as avmisses in replays) than a credit limit in a song.
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        • Card Man
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2008
          • 645

          #19
          Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

          Originally posted by tha Guardians
          The problem with this is credits go by points. Points go by combo. So if you're good, you'll be able to play FFLBF and FC it constantly, while someone who gets say 1 miss a run on it will get about half the credits. This in turn will push people to mash more often, and nobody likes mashers :/
          This is exactly why sometimes I feel the whole total score shouldn't be based on a combo but on your PA. Not to change the subject but I am sure we all know or feel that a single digit good with 1 miss should be worth more than 20 goods with no misses. In any case, knowing all of this; letting the cap go would also change game-play a lot; hopefully for the better...

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          • jimerax
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            FFR Music Producer
            • Nov 2003
            • 8185

            #20
            Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

            I've never understood the legit reason for the existance of credit cap.

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            • Sprite-
              HAVE ME WITH VODKA
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2005
              • 7317

              #21
              Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

              JX, I think its only purpose is to make it harder to get credits, since there IS a max credit limit that the server can hold.

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              • jesushaxyou
                wtf I am jesus?
                • Nov 2005
                • 373

                #22
                Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                I don't think the 40 credit cap is too justified, it was established way back when, when the highest you could get on a song would be somewhere around the lines of (going by the combo needed to get 40 credits) 50 or so. Now we could probably snake about 150 credits a song, I think it should go to those who deserve it and can do that well on songs.

                And to whomever said that a fc on fflbf as opposed to someone who has 1 miss and then that person gets a fc on it is mashing is outrageous. If you have one miss and then you fc it you can't possibly be mashing. That is of course considering you have a clean 1 miss run.

                Pardon my run-on sentences and such. I should have gathered my thoughts better before posting this rofl.

                EDIT: ninja'd by like 4 people rofl holy crap.

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                • EDEdDNEdDYFaN
                  FFR Veteran
                  • May 2003
                  • 2119

                  #23
                  Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                  Originally posted by Sprite-
                  JX, I think its only purpose is to make it harder to get credits, since there IS a max credit limit that the server can hold.
                  considering the box that ffr runs on has been updated every once in a while doesn't that mean they can increase the credit limit? or possibly use another pc to save the numbers.

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                  • Kairon
                    Still Defiantly Index
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 377

                    #24
                    Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                    Originally posted by Sprite-
                    JX, I think its only purpose is to make it harder to get credits, since there IS a max credit limit that the server can hold.
                    What is there was no cap on the amount of credits you could get per song, but a limit on the number of credits you could amass period?


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                    • Nightfirecat
                      ...back from the dead.
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 3213

                      #25
                      Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                      I agree with getting rid of the cap.

                      My counter-argument for the 'Mashing will be advocated' argument is this:

                      After 3rd style (if it even exists anymore... *rumor rumor*), the scoring will be changed so that combo is not worth NEARLY as much as it is now (now, being over half your score), meaning that just FCing a song will no longer give you all the credits the song has to offer, but instead it will give you a respectable amount, proportionate to how well you did, more like SM's method of scoring.

                      Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I've understood it from all of the 3rd style talk I've seen from the last year-and-a-half.


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                      • Mario Bros.
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 595

                        #26
                        Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                        I say off with the cap lol!

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                        • Card Man
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 645

                          #27
                          Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                          Originally posted by Nightfirecat
                          I agree with getting rid of the cap.

                          My counter-argument for the 'Mashing will be advocated' argument is this:

                          After 3rd style (if it even exists anymore... *rumor rumor*), the scoring will be changed so that combo is not worth NEARLY as much as it is now (now, being over half your score), meaning that just FCing a song will no longer give you all the credits the song has to offer, but instead it will give you a respectable amount, proportionate to how well you did, more like SM's method of scoring.

                          Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I've understood it from all of the 3rd style talk I've seen from the last year-and-a-half.
                          If this is even remotely true.....it is a flawless idea! Get rid of the cap!! 3rd style....just think.....*sigh* I can't wait....

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                          • Nightfirecat
                            ...back from the dead.
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 3213

                            #28
                            Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                            Originally posted by Card Man
                            If this is even remotely true.....it is a flawless idea! Get rid of the cap!! 3rd style....just think.....*sigh* I can't wait....
                            JX has said plenty of what I just said in other threads... Although I can't scold you on not searching, because they're so spread out, it'd take a week just to find enough useful information to put together to tell anyone about it... Stupid 3rd style and your slowness.

                            This reminds me, I need to go send more threat notes to synthlight telling him to hurry up with 3rd style. Whoops, did I say that out loud? >.> I'm not a stalker.


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                            • who_cares973
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 15407

                              #29
                              Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                              im fine with the cap limit for now

                              i mean if the cap was gone people wouldnt play as much since they wouldnt have to whore for the 100k that unlocks all the secret songs for now.

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                              • MooMoo_Cowfreak
                                Abraxas Hydroplane
                                • May 2006
                                • 1746

                                #30
                                Re: Why do we still have the 40 credit limit?

                                Maybe it's just me but wasn't the cap taken off for a very, very short time?
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