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[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I HATE First Try. Make it a 7, that ****'s evil...

[Patashu]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

NWE is an FMO to me, lol

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Ska Cha Cha is definitely a C, I AAA'd sightread, it's really, really easy, mid-high C. Honestly, I think Otter's Dance should be VC, as it's the only C I haven't AAA'd (keep BF'ing it). That song is really much harder than a lot of easy VC songs, but it won't get changed. Ska Cha Cha is a joke, AAA'd sightread. When you get better at the game, views of song difficulties completely change. I used to think Gradeus was really, really hard. Now I think it could be C.

I'm really not that bad. I can AAA many VC songs much more easily than Ska Cha Cha, it has really annoying bursts. I sightread PLANETZ and I don't think it's a C.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

If NWE becomes a VC then Why don't we make RATO a FMO? It fits.

That just ridiculous NWE While being easy for Index compared to most FMO, Still is a complicated song to even FC. Around arrows 400 - 420 is a rather annoying pattern, then thee jumps with those random 16ths in it (I don't know what arrows these are.) just would make it ridiculous. And 0 I'm sure that if NWE was dropped to a VC, FOTBB would be left as FMO, cause those trills are just hard.

[cedolad]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I agree with Midnight on keeping NWE a FMO. But if NWE was dropped why would FotBB and Silence be dropped? The offsync of Silence makes the jump stream seem harder than what it is, because it doesn't follow anything. And FotBB the left handed trill is annoying as hell for spread users. I think we should just leave those 3 alone.

And First Try should definitely go up to a 7. Because the rolls inside the jumps, would not make a 6. It should easily be a 7.

[Archelos]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

First Try : This song should be bumped to a mid-7(at least a low-7, but not a 6), I can name a lot of 7s easier than this song(Pondering Stuff, Platypus, Roses and Butterflies (Heavy), Elements, and many others).

Okay, I just played First Try and Elements. You're assuming that everyone can combo stream as easily as you can. People who have trouble with stream will find Elements harder than First Try, I guarantee you. Plus, maybe you're forgetting that Elements has 8th note jumpstream. Yeah, that's not really so simple for somebody playing at that level. First Try, however, is pretty much all 8th jacks, with some 24ths, and an occasional 16th wedged in between two jumps.

It's really annoying to FC and to PA for a middle-level player, because of its quick rolls and staircases

That's a good point.

not to mention the annoying constant slow jacks in it.

Did I miss something? We're now bumping levels up for being... slow? Also, what's "slow" to a newbie? Maybe an experienced player will go back on these and think "wtf these are slow hard to PA omg" but for somebody not so experienced, maybe the First Try jacks are a comfortable speed.

EDIT: You're playing with one hand, which can also change the way you look at things.

[cedolad]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Don't forget NWE gets you oni. Oni is attached to a few songs, dropping NWE could lower the songs you can AAA for oni.

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

The new public song, Keep In Mind, is harder than many of the lower FMO songs, even though it's considered VC.

[cedolad]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

The difficulty of Keep In Mind is right. It's a consistent VC. It's fine.

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

The difficulty of Keep In Mind is right. It's a consistent VC. It's fine.

But Silence, Going on Spring Wind, NWE, etc. are all easier than it. It's not a mid VC.

[cedolad]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

It's not that hard. It's not just patterns, think of the bpm, Keep In Mind's bpm isn't fast. And the patterns don't make it a FMO. Just because of the rolls, and bursts in the 16th stream doesn't make it a FMO.

[0]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

yeah, Keep in Mind seems a lot harder than some of the FMOs

[cedolad]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

it's not hard at all. The only spot where I would consider it a FMO is the last 200 notes. That's it. The beginning is a low VC, and the end is a low FMO, average that together that makes a High VC.

[Archelos]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Uhhh, you do realize that there are 24th trills in this song? And really ****ty 32nd gracenotes? I'm talking the kind that made me want to boo out like I always do, lol. I finished the song just for argument's sake, but yeah, this isn't a VC. I do consistently well on my sightreads, like SDG. None Would Escape, Lawn Wake IV, Silence, all SDG sightreads. I got 11 good and a boo on this stupid **** so there's no way this is a VC, lmao.

24th is 1.5x the speed and we're talking trills. Plus the jumptrills mid-stream aren't exactly easy to hit and then the 32nds really throw PA off. It's FMO.

EDIT:



VC?

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Thanks, Archelos.