Ichirin :: FFR Batch Submission

jh05013 - Ichirin - Kolaa feat. Kumako [8.25 / 10]

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https://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi?action=More_def&num=296&event=142

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Original title is "〇、". The song urls (e.g. Soundcloud, dizzylab) use "ichirin", so I'm using that name similarly to how Fuji-san was handled.

Estimator says 75, but I think it's low 70s.

✔️ This chart has been marked as final and shouldn't receive any more changes.

Simfile Folder Name

Ichirin (jh05013)

Note Count

1182

Chart Length

2:10

Average NPS

9.4889

Estimated Difficulty

76.3

First Note

0:05

Ending Note Delay

0:01

Hand Bias

x 2

Framers

0 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 61 4 - 33

Jumps

								x 226
							

Hands

								x 32
							

Quads

x 0

Color Jumps

x 1

Color Hands

x 1

Color Quads

x 0

Most notes in:

1/3 of a Second
9 - 27.00 nps 0.5 Seconds
11 - 22.00 nps 1 Second
19 - 19.00 nps 2 Seconds
35 - 17.50 nps 5 Seconds
83 - 16.60 nps 10 Seconds
152 - 15.20 nps 30 Seconds
413 - 13.77 nps 1 Minute
743 - 12.38 nps

Color Count

x 388 (32.83%)

x 277 (23.43%)

x 67 (5.67%)

x 273 (23.1%)

x 62 (5.25%)

x 49 (4.15%)

x 3 (0.25%)

x 5 (0.42%)

x 58 (4.91%)

Largest Note Gaps

2.87s1.87s1.77s1.73s1.57s1.53s1.5s1.03s

minor fixes

A new chart file was uploaded with the following changes:
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Note Count changed: 1171 => 1173
AVG NPS changed: 9.40059 => 9.41664

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Approved for low 70s bounty, cleared for judging.

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Ichirin (jh05013) [8/10, CQ/FR*]
>Perms, metadata, sync good

14.952 - So what noise here determines the transition from 24ths to 20ths?
17.090-18.193 - Technically 32nds?
35.228 - Ghost note
39.159-39.780/44.745-45.159 - Jump patterns could be varied given the different pitches/noises
43.918 - Why jump?
49.400 - Missing note
1:04.193 - Should be diff hand pattern. Compare 1:03.573
1:05.435/1:13.297 - Why jump?
1:14.435 - Should not be part of the minijacks. Diff pitch
1:16.090 - Should be part of a minijack. Same pitch
1:21.504 - Sounds closer to 1:21.469
1:21.262 - Missing note?
*1:26.331-1:34.400 - Yes it's the climax, but it's too spiky with these jumpjacks. I also think the PR would really benefit if the non-laser noises were reduced to minijacks like at 1:13.918-1:18.573. The laser noises on 1:26.745/1:27.366/etc can stay as jumps. (I tested this suggestion and the estimator made it to 73, which still counts as low 70s)
1:32.331-1:32.538 - Maybe make the "roll into hand" end on a two-handed minitrill
2:05.849 - I'm guessing this is the Snap transition point b/c the discrete wind-blowing noises appear here?

>>Mostly straightforward and consistent. See asterisk

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Ichirin (jh05013)

- Offset's fine.

39.366 - Jump patterning here could be slightly different here, it's too much of an outer hand bias as of now.
50.538 - Could use a trill motion that is not the same as 49.918.
57.262 - Not quite sure if I agree with the 16ths being layered for ghost.
1:21.262 - Seems to be missing a note.
1:32.538 - Hand is fine, but maybe try to avoid collision with a minijack on the outer hand. (as in, try to get the minijack position into a column 2 or 3, instead of 1 or 4)

Chart's very solid and has a good theme of uncertainty to it. Nothing major that needs tweaking but I'd argue this is good as is. Would be a spicy for the round this will be in for sure. [8.5/10]

PS: Having ositz FR'ing this file over 1:26.331 is valid enough to keep the FR, so I'll let you decide whether or not this needs a change or acknowledging that particular note with your reasoning.

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Checking in on the status of this submission, as it's past the 1 month probationary period with a "Fixes Required" flag, but there's been no acknowledgment of judge notes or fixes submitted.

Files/Songs with the "Fixes Required" tag require at a minimum a fix submitted based on the above notes from judges, or a response appealing the notes involved in the reason for it being labeled as Fixes Required.

I will check back on this at a later date. If it does not receive a response or fix by then, it could risk rejection.

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Thanks for the notes.

A quick update: I'm keeping the jumpminijacks as-is because:
- I disagree with being too spiky, compared with Forever (130BPM, diff 62) and DRAGONLADY (150BPM, diff 77). Elite Ninja estimated it as 73 too.
- I feel like using a weaker pattern kind of kills the flow of the song.

But the rest of the chart could get a little buff, so I'll do that and also fix the other notes.

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Playtesting. Changelog:
- 14.952 was meant to be a gradual slowdown which doesn't rely on specific sound, but I think 20ths are a bit too slow anyway. Changed to 24ths.
- 17.090-18.193: the first 5 notes are 24ths, and the rest are faster but I'm keeping the 24ths for difficulty purposes.
- 43.918 is melody
- 57.262 and 57.469 are not ghosts, but 57.262 is too silent so I removed it.
- 1:05.435 is symbal & voice, 1:13.297 is melody
- Ending 24ths moved to start earlier to match the wind sound
- Other notes fixed & minor layering fixes

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A new chart file was uploaded with the following changes:
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Note Count changed: 1173 => 1182
AVG NPS changed: 9.41664 => 9.48889
Hand Bias changed: -1 => 2

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Would've like some layering/PR differentiation between the laser percussion noise (jump, e.g. 1:26.745) and the synth jack noise (jump, e.g. 1:26.331-1:26.642), but the file is fine as is. FR is released

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