TWG CLIV: An Old School Slumber Party - GAME THREAD

[Charu]

There is no kick function in Discord that I'm aware of (unless kick from the server).

YoshL definitely didn't do that.

Though will confirm that he did started muting and moving him around in this specific Discord during their argument.

[Charu]

I should be fucking sleeping, jesus christ.

I got to drink more that piece of shit Gatorade at 5AM

[thesunfan]

this is me completely beside my current alignment but
I get that this was in another chatroom that wasn't TWG related but I don't think muting him is really all that fair

[YoshL]

hey xiz can i ask you something

because of horrid short term memory

did i ask you why you were town reading me

then you mentioned my initial reaction to you being really towny

and that being the exchange, rather than "no reaction"?

[thesunfan]

also, I don't really see how I can townread you if you're muting the person accusing you, I get that maybe he was just being a piece of shit and not letting you talk but like

...really? muting him?

[Charu]

*shrug*

I saw it, at first, as a friendly "Stop that" gesture.

But I can definitely see it being thrown at a very negative way

[YoshL]

it's a serious question to Xiz, because i'm almost positive that I asked why he was townreading me. Had I not responded at all to him saying that i was 100% town, i'm pretty sure i wouldn't have known the reason for his townread

like, this is me and bad short term memory questions

[Charu]

Will butt in and mention I also don't remember, but I certainly don't recall a moment of silence when Xiz stated that.

Then again, maybe I'm just tired and then TWG talk happened at 12:45AM ish in some server I didn't expect TWG talk to happen

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by YoshL

hey xiz can i ask you something
did i ask you why you were town reading me

From what I remember, I told you why I was townreading you, not the other way around. (It was in response to both of our reads on sunfan + red blaster)

But I can't remember conversation specifics beyond that anymore.

[Xiz]

From my perspective, using your mod powers to mute and remove me from the call (into afk) multiple times while I was trying to tell charu about my argument was bm and extremely, extremely wolfy.

Even when I came back 4 min later, you said "...99% of the time, xiz is, oh xiz is back" then removed me from the call again.

[YoshL]

extremely wolfy, or extremely fed up with you again already

take your fucking pick

[Charu]

Originally Posted by YoshL

literally you've gone from "Yoshl lock clear." to "Yoshl 99% wolf", both because of one action, good shit

It was this that you came back too, lmao. Word from word... well not exactly word from word, but same context

[thesunfan]

idk man

[thesunfan]

I'm really like
out of sorts after the all star game I played so like I could wake up tomorrow and probably not understand my own posts from tonight so idk

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I'm really like
out of sorts after the all star game I played so like I could wake up tomorrow and probably not understand my own posts from tonight so idk

I can echo this sentiment with my current emotional state, and I'm going to re-evaluate after a sleep probably.

Muting was probably too much. What's done is done though. It's an action that I took, and I don't think it's angleshooting to incorporate it into your reads given that it is a component of OOTC

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Xiz

90% sure yoshl is a wolf.

What happened in call:

I told yoshl "I'm pretty much ride or die with you, I believe you are town"
yoshl didn't react
We then talked about something else

(2-4 minutes later)

Yoshl said "When I was a wolf in (past out of talk thread game), I had thesunfan on a short leash because he said 'if you are a wolf im screwed' and all I could do was sit there and not react"

He unconsciously outed himself, revealing the same situation that happened to him previously.

yoshl

I feel really, really good about this.

That's great and all but there is no proof. This sounds like great reasoning and maybe could make Yoshl a good D0, but there is no evidence. We just have to go on word of mouth. Without any evidence of this occurring this information is useless.

But like seriously people record your voice calls. Without things like logs to go off of we don't have the information to make decisions off of. And remember people remember things different to how they are sometimes
We need exact proof.

[Xiz]

.....charu was a witness, he was there to validate this conversation from both perspectives....

storn plz

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by storn42

That's great and all but there is no proof. This sounds like great reasoning and maybe could make Yoshl a good D0, but there is no evidence. We just have to go on word of mouth. Without any evidence of this occurring this information is useless.

But like seriously people record your voice calls. Without things like logs to go off of we don't have the information to make decisions off of. And remember people remember things different to how they are sometimes
We need exact proof.

Gonna side comment on this

While yes, being weary of such a statement is a good thing, it's not an evidence-less post because pretty much all they gotta do is cite the game this happened in so we can go read it / the post game because I'm pretty sure such a thing would get referenced SOMEWHERE.

But against this, one it's day 0 and it's a shit show, two it's not like we always use the best of reasoning to make lynches.

so at the end of the day if they can cite the game, I see no issues.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Gonna side comment on this

While yes, being weary of such a statement is a good thing, it's not an evidence-less post because pretty much all they gotta do is cite the game this happened in so we can go read it / the post game because I'm pretty sure such a thing would get referenced SOMEWHERE.

But against this, one it's day 0 and it's a shit show, two it's not like we always use the best of reasoning to make lynches.

so at the end of the day if they can cite the game, I see no issues.

It's not about how it happened previously, it's about what yoshl did there is no proof that his reaction (or lack there of) actually happened. While yes two people said it happened, all we had was 2 people saying it happened that way, without proof of it happening.

And no, d0 lynched are rarely good lynches, but that doesn't mean we should except shitty reasoning instead of finding the best possible lunch.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Xiz

.....charu was a witness, he was there to validate this conversation from both perspectives....

storn plz

And if charu is your/yoshl's woof partner?