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  • Mahou
    魔法少女
    • Jan 2006
    • 2153

    #46
    Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

    Originally posted by hi19hi19
    I already have v2s made of RATO, DP, and many other old legacy files. Several versions of each, usually.
    Just not enough submission slots and other files I'd much rather submit over them, so I've been saving them for a rainy day. I'll get around to it eventually if nobody else does.
    Did you restep running morningv2?
    Originally posted by lofty rhino
    one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
    AND watch anime.

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    • tosh
      O Derby, Where Art Thou?
      • Jul 2003
      • 1018

      #47
      Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      We really need four categories instead of the current system (which only has the first 3):

      1. Public files (counts for public level ranks, playable)
      2. Secret/purchased files (counts for public level ranks, but has to be unlocked so not playable by new/guest accounts)
      3. Token files (counts for token level ranks but not public level ranks, has to be unlocked)
      4. Legacy files (shit tier Tass-era files such as RATO, DP, Crowdpleaser as well as the old offsync legacy stuff goes here. Does not count for any level rank, playable by anyone who is logged in but not by guest accounts)

      Making the distinction like this, where the legacy files are hidden from guest accounts and very clearly left in the game just for novelty/historical purposes, is needed badly.
      This was a really popular opinion back when they were debating what to do with the current legacy files but they ended up just not doing anything.

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #48
        Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

        Originally posted by tosh
        This was a really popular opinion back when they were debating what to do with the current legacy files but they ended up just not doing anything.
        They did get their own genre and removed from public levelranks, so it's not fair to say nothing was done. But I think it's still a popular opinion that even more should be done with regards to making them not "count" and also expanding the definition of Legacy to include not only the old blue files, but also some blatantly offsync/bad old files from the Tass era (Improvisation et Chien comes to mind, for example >_<).
        Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-5-2015, 10:55 PM.


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        • tosh
          O Derby, Where Art Thou?
          • Jul 2003
          • 1018

          #49
          Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          They did get their own genre and removed from public levelranks, so it's not fair to say nothing was done. But I think it's still a popular opinion that even more should be done with regards to making them not "count" and also expanding the definition of Legacy to include not only the old blue files, but also some blatantly offsync/bad old files from the Tass era (Improvisation et Chien comes to mind, for example >_<).
          They got their own genre, but they weren't removed from public levelranks.

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          • gold stinger
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            • Jan 2007
            • 6428

            #50
            Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

            Even if you remove RATO it will still be part of the Tier points list <w<
            Originally posted by YoshL
            butts.


            - Tosh 2014






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            • choof
              Banned
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Nov 2013
              • 8563

              #51
              Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

              where odd22

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              • ItsOnlyDanO
                Stuck in the past
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2013
                • 1168

                #52
                Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                See if only we had cetaka's RATO in game we would never have this problem
                Ghosts appear and fade away.......

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                • Wayward Vagabond
                  Confirmed Heartbreaker
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 5866

                  #53
                  Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                  I thought this was a hi19 thread

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                  • Callipygian
                    Senior FFR citizen
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1537

                    #54
                    Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                    Originally posted by EzExZeRo7497
                    she will forever be a BDSM slave locked away in the basements of 15 D7 players
                    I love this post.

                    Sick nature

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                    • dell2150
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 397

                      #55
                      Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                      I voted yes but after thinking about it instead of just "YESYESYES" because I want to play Miku... I say no.

                      Tokens should be a reward, like hi19 said something worth working for, not just a dump for bad files. Miku (as a song, especially) is definitely a reward and has a difficulty index that I think is appropriate for the requirement. I'd much rather be given Miku for a really hard AAA as opposed to RATO because RATO sucks. It's just cetaka's file on shuffle with like 400 random notes added and/or turned into jacks.
                      Please make the following adjustments to the above poll:
                      -1 yes
                      +1 no
                      Thanks you very a lot
                      Last edited by dell2150; 02-6-2015, 06:44 AM.

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                      • DossarLX ODI
                        Batch Manager
                        Game Manager
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15004

                        #56
                        Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        And while we're at it, replace Death Piano with a file that you know, is actually on-sync, cause fuck that file too.
                        The ending 32nd trill in Death Piano is actually offsync. It's slightly slower than 170 BPM 32nds.
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • gold stinger
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6428

                          #57
                          Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                          ok so let's talk about how Freedom Dive is still a token because it's such an amazing song and how it should switch places with death piano.

                          In all seriousness, I would be ok with moving RATO to legacy files if we're to stop going by the 'blue note syndome exclusive' file rules, but then again, I feel like that's the stubbornness within me being unable to even comprehend a song so hard, and switching the song to token and replace it with another song doesn't really seem to justify it because the song has been playable all this time, and is consistent in difficulty rather than being god shit tier like Crowdpleaser or party4u.
                          Last edited by gold stinger; 02-6-2015, 09:18 AM.
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          butts.


                          - Tosh 2014






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                          • Deadlyx39
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 1046

                            #58
                            Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                            Originally posted by gold stinger
                            ok so let's talk about how Freedom Dive is still a token because it's such an amazing song and how it should switch places with death piano.
                            I find this funny because when Tokens were being given out for the FFR AAAdvent drawing (Not the event), I picked Freedom Dive even though I had no idea that
                            A: You can't get it public anymore
                            and
                            B: It was actually a good song
                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            I want another DJ hero
                            Originally posted by Red Blaster
                            Why should I care about this thread
                            Originally posted by choof
                            whats in it for me
                            Originally posted by grizz13114
                            Fun times and meme sluts
                            Originally posted by choof
                            ew meme sluts
                            ew fun

                            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                            do you realize how asinine all of your posts are
                            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                            i would also like to take this opportunity to shout out deadlyx39

                            on the one hand i feel as though your absence from these forums is a shelled victory for all ffr forumites however after careful examination of my internal feeling apparatus i have come to the conclusion that i do in fact miss your posts

                            [...]

                            come back

                            i need to laugh at you

                            once more

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                            • Mahou
                              魔法少女
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 2153

                              #59
                              Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                              Is /a/ a good song?
                              Originally posted by lofty rhino
                              one does not simply hate everyone that plays stepmania
                              AND watch anime.

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                              • lurker
                                ur worst nitemare
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1628

                                #60
                                Re: petition: make RATO a stupid skill token for AAAing an 89 and make miku public

                                keep RATO in because 1. the frames are as good as they can get if memory serves, 2. having only AAAable files in public would make avrank completely meaningless (as opposed to mostly), and 3. it's fun watching people cry about it

                                html5 engine when
                                Last edited by lurker; 02-6-2015, 09:47 AM.
                                some feathery f**k

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