TWG CXVIII: But Who Are Ur Friends, Really???

[Charles Claythorne]

I get to comment on things finally!!!

More confident about Vendetta21 being Human considering his apology about Manti; I feel most Wolves also don't push their suspicions so confidently and so hard in cardflips like this. He could be faking it, but the post was unprovoked and it seems sincere enough to me.

Likewise, j-rodd's commentary on the wolfing seems more Human to me as well. It's not uncommon for Wolves to identify why a wolfing was odd, but if he were a Wolf and thought up the plan of almost lynching YMCA, why not go through with it?

I agree on iluswirl for the time being. swirly whirly, who are your suspicions and why should we believe you're Human?


Going to leave for prayer, but I'll be back in about 2 hours.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charles Claythorne

I agree on iluswirl for the time being. swirly whirly, who are your suspicions and why should we believe you're Human?

What specifically do you agree about?

[iluswirl]

Originally Posted by Charu

Alright, lets do this.

iluswirl

That hammer looked bogus, I mean come now. What is this?



This looks like to me "Man, I don't know who to pick, I'm just going to go with Manti because wow, everyone ELSE WANTS TO!"

To be frank, if YMIA was alive today, I would've auto voted him (which is why I stated I would know who to exactly vote for if Manti ended up green.)

I'm honestly surprised that wolves didn't keep him around because of the suspicions some expressed. He would be in a shaky water even if he said "Oh, I'm actually the mason guys."

I had planned on seeing if YMIA got wolfed tonight, if he didn't, the wolves either played us through and through or he was a wolf himself. It was just smarter to not mention the plan until after the wolfing because ymia would have been left alone had I said anything about it.

On lynching manti, yes, i was rather indecisive. I still came to terms with it being a smart move after the fact on the grounds that the wolves may have prioritized manti over ymia for some reason. Like i said I didn't see jrodd's post until it was too late, so yeah.

Also i'm done being on the defensive. Being defensive isn't going to benefit me. I've given my statements, and if you lynch me enjoy the loss .

It's do or die time at this point with what we have left because soon the wolves will control the game on sheer ties. We have to act as a decisive unit or it's incredibly likely that they win after this phase.

Anyway, I'm looking toward lurker, dbp and yoshl. Lurker was an item of suspicion yesterday, so with today's information, we should look at the accusations yesterday and see if they apply today. DBP and yoshl, i think it's possible that one of the two are wolf, but I doubt both would be because of how buddy buddy they were first day. These two are based on the fact that they were so very active day 0 and now they're rather silent. I don't think it makes much difference in the grand scheme, I just think there's possibility that one of the two are wolf.

[iluswirl]

Also remember when i said I believe manti? I should have gone with myself.

[iluswirl]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Also, just want to get this out there now:

There's something I want to say but I want to wait until tomorrow to do it. A very strange suspicion. So please remind me D3 if I live that long.

I know this sounds really suspicious, but my idea is proven wrong if I die tonight pretty much so there's no real need for me to say it now. Unless you really want to hear it now, but I'd rather not affect the wolves' behavior if I'm right.

Ok welcome to day 3, let's hear the story

[Charu]

Originally Posted by iluswirl

I had planned on seeing if YMIA got wolfed tonight, if he didn't, the wolves either played us through and through or he was a wolf himself. It was just smarter to not mention the plan until after the wolfing because ymia would have been left alone had I said anything about it.

Wait, what plan?

[iluswirl]

I had said I didn't want to lynch ymia last night, because reasons. My reasons are on the table now, after the wolfing. Unfortunately, I was wrong in my suspicion, but right in the tactics behind it.

[lurker]

i had a gut feeling manti was going to turn out to be just another retard
of course ymia was a mason but keep in mind gradiant d0 softclaimed, it wasn't ALL xiz's doing (though it was pretty damn close)
so let's deal with everyone else:
yoshl is either a wolf or retarded
vendetta is either a wolf or retarded
iluswirl probably isn't retarded but he's probably a wolf too

[lurker]

and then the other guys meh (except plop and jrodd)
the third mason better not say shit

[lurker]

for the record i feel comfortable with plop and jrodd
also i guess i better use The Tags so fucen yoshl
this is a fairly straightforward vote, i don't want to go with swirl because he isn't as aggressive

[YoshL]

ok so i literally conked out right after i made that falling asleep post, and that's my bad. night passed, and i just got back from a musical viewing. lion king was at the kennedy center and it was pretty fucking awesome

i like the possibility of lurker being red, mostly because of unbased aggression and condescension towards everyone else in this game.

anyways, fairly straightforward vote my ass, there's been no explanation from others about the vote, much like iluswirl

another speculation/gut feeling about ilu+lurker combo, but whatever.
I'm going to be incapacitated due to going to a con for the weekend. sorry ahead of time for being even more quiet than i'd normally be in a game. hopefully though i'll break the silence (like i usually do when i say i'm busy) and say stuff for the next day

votecount before i vote? don't want to accidentally get too close to insta

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by iluswirl

Ok welcome to day 3, let's hear the story

I had a paranoid moment, I was honestly surprised at how specific people kept telling me about my innocence. The thought crossed my mind that I was being manipulated by the wolves, and that they wanted to keep me alive until the end so they could take advantage of me somehow.

Based on others' reactions towards me, I had assumed that I was the "most likely to be human", so that would make me a prime lynch target. If I was not night-killed, then I would direct suspicion towards those pushing me as a human. That seems a bit more nonsensical now that I've had time to think about it. But whatever.

The YMIA lynch was to eliminate a mason, and it was a really risky move for them.

YoshL, turn your fucking invisible mode off, I asked you this already. I can see when you're viewing the thread anyway and you trying to hide is making me really suspicious.

[DaBackpack]

I'm continuously trying to justify you having it on, and I am pretty sure I can consciously remember a time when I could see your name at the bottom of the screen. Meaning you made an effort to turn it on. And unless you're avoiding a stalker, there's no good reason a townsperson would equip that feature.

[YoshL]

being 100% honest, I've had it on way prior to this.

i'll turn it on for you though, if it really helps

staying on topic though, plopadop has been lurking around in invis mode too

[YoshL]

also, the YMIA lynch was justified. look back at gradiant's post, i missed so many posts it's not even funny

[DaBackpack]

I got worried when I asked you directly about it yesterday and you ignored it
So you've got a stalker huh? :P

didn't notice about plopadop though

unvote

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

oops, sorry yoshl.
confirmed

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Really no point in trying to hide it since not confirming makes it look like a fake claim and he'll die anyway

because it looks like backpank missed it along with me (and a bunch of other people)

[YoshL]

well yeah, that's because plopadop just lurked and didn't actually post anything

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

2) Charu
3) DarkManticoreX2
4) yo man im awesome
5) YoshL
6) j-rodd123
8) MrPopadopalis25
9) DaBackpack
10) iluswirl
11) Vendetta21
12) Charles Claythorne
13) lurker

I'm tunneling like crazy, but honestly I'm confident with Manti being red. His stalling feels really forced and his disinterest seems really artificial to me.

orange: null, I can't decide either way. Your attacking and "hey guys"-ing just feels red, along with the list I don't feel the same way about. But I just don't believe that you're red.

light green: slight human read, nothing really suspicious in my eyes about them.

deep green: me, and plop out of gut. I just flat out do not see a wolf in him.

Yoman's list for reference. I think he'd put the last mason in green, maybe the orange pool would statistically be the best lynch. Lurker can be discussed today too. As for last mason, I think maybe don't claim until close to lynch as usual, I'm just worried that if we lynch a human today and wolves kill a human and were at must lynch tomorrow, there's a really messy mason claim/wolf counterclaim situation that would be a huge headache.

Yoshl has been leading in posts and has been my strongest villa lean so the collective thought of him being pushed now is a bit weird to me. Yoshl have u had a wolf game, I honestly can't remember and I want to see if ur able to be stream of consciousy as a wolf. Plz post a lot today, we can only afford one more mislynch so no repeats of last day

charu why should I find u human? And give me ur opinion on lurker

[j-rodd123]

The plz post a lot was in regards to everyone, I'm on my phone and tired and won't be at my comp till afternoon tmrw.

Also @dbp the invisible thing is a veteran thing and I'm almost positive yoshl always had that on so really not outing