New Difficulty System Name Suggestions

[nois-or-e]

Hi guys!

Now, the new difficulty system has been a work in progress in the background and should be in place as early as mid next week! One of the less important challenges has been creating titles for each difficulty while maintaining unique acronyms for each.

What I would like to do is take suggestions from players regarding the final names of these difficulties. One in particular that has been deemed 'dumb' is the FSO title. Keeping in line with the For ____ Only scheme of things has been a long term tradition for FFR, but other suggestions would be great too. (I know some of the Team Indeed guys seem to like 'Brutal' as a fitting title). ??? will remain as the difficulty name for 20's as vRofl is the only song that falls into that category.

This is the current name list that is up for voting/changes.

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01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Novice
04- Very Easy
05- Easy
06- Light
07- Moderate
08- Standard
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
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11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Expert
16- Master
17- Guru
18- Brutal
19- Ridiculous
20- ???

01- Easiest/For Beginners
02- For Beginners/Very Easy
03- Very Easy/Easy
04- Easy/Standard
05- Standard
06- Tricky
07- Tricky/Difficult
08- Difficult
09- Very Difficult
10- Very Difficult
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11- Challenging (approx. 46-50 in the 1-99 scale)
12- Challenging
13- Challening / lowest few VC
14- VC
15- high VC / lowest few FMO's
16- mid - high FMO
17- high FMO / low FGO
18- mid - high FGO
19- FSO
20- vrofl

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A bit of background information. The new system is a 20 difficulty system with a 1-99 rating of each file that will set it in an order within its difficulty. (ex. 11s in the new system will be the 46-50 range)
The current 1-8's will be the new 1-10's. With the current 9+ difficulties filling the new 11+ area. Keeping in mind that the current ratio of 9:10:11:12's is 3:3:2:1, and that there will be better division of the upper tier files, so we're looking at high VCs and the lowest FMOs in the current system sitting in the FEO (difficulty 15) range, and the high FMOs and lowest FGOs sitting in the new FGO (difficulty 17) range.

In this thread, I'd appreciate if you'd make your suggestions in the form of re-posting the entire 1-20 list in the same colour scheme with changes you've made in italics.

Thanks in advance guys! We're hoping that this will assist us in making a system that will be essentially moderated by the players with transparency and public opinion taken into account every step of the way.

~Jae

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Get rid of "For stepman only" please it sounds utterly retarded.

Also difficulty 20 should be left as simply "20"

It's so hard it gets no real name

01- Beginners
02- Very Easy
03- Easy
04- Simple
05- Light
06- Standard
07- Tricky
08- Very Tricky
09- Difficult
10- Very Difficult
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11- Demanding
12- Heavy
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Oni
16- Master
17- Guru
18- Ridiculous
19- Brutal
20- Legendary

NOW TO EDIT THE LAST ONE. SO I CAN RENAME ALL 20.

[ShadowXall]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Get rid of "For stepman only" please it sounds utterly retarded.

Also difficulty 20 should be left as simply "20"

It's so hard it gets no real name

01- Beginners
02- Very Easy
03- Easy
04- Simple
05- Light
06- Standard
07- Tricky
08- Very Tricky
09- Difficult
10- Very Difficult
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11- Demanding
12- Heavy
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- Oni
16- Master
17- Guru
18- Ridiculous
19- Brutal
20- Legendary

By far the best, in my opinion.

[Xayphon]

FSO suggestions:

For Nerds Only
For Elites Only
For Legends Only (credits to Ben)


20 suggestion:

R.I.P.

[Helixia]

Originally Posted by Xayphon

FSO suggestions:

For Nerds Only
For Elites Only
For Legends Only (credits to Ben)


20 suggestion:

R.I.P.

I like that difficult names :).

[Evascythe]

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Light
06- Moderate
07- Standard
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
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11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- For Experts only
16- For Masters only
17- For Gurus only
18- Brutal
19- Ridiculous
20- ???

I like how the new system looks. No longer will Eclipse be considered the same difficulty as Destiny v1, Oasis etc. or Mute City Remix and Szamar Madar being the same difficulty as Lawn Wake IV.

[BahamutZER0]

Originally Posted by Evascythe

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Light
06- Moderate
07- Standard
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
---
11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- For Experts only
16- For Masters only
17- For Gurus only
18- Brutal
19- Ridiculous
20- ???

Seconded on having D/VD/C/VC like that, think it sounds a lot better. May just be used to the old naming scheme.

[reuben_tate]

I like Middie's suggestions for lower level files, they seem a bit more intuitive. My thoughts for the upper-level files:
18 - For Legends Only
19 - For Ridiculousness Only
20 - For Death Only

Originally Posted by BahamutZER0

Seconded on having D/VD/C/VC like that, think it sounds a lot better. May just be used to the old naming scheme.

Connotation wise, I believe there is more of a difference between Challenging and Demanding, than there is Challenging and Difficult. When one thinks of something as challenging, they think of it as somewhat difficult. However, when one thinks of the word demanding, it's more associated with a task being overwhelming or exhausting, something at a much higher level than simply "challenging."

[nois-or-e]

Thanks for some speedy responses guys!! Personally I don't like the FSO title as it stands, but I was always intending on getting community input on the names before anything was put into place (as these require engine changes). Our 2 difficulty consultants & all 3 of us game managers are against the current FSO title too, so we're hoping for some good suggestions here!

Just one thing please, as I have no idea how many responses we'll get regarding this thread.

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

In this thread, I'd appreciate if you'd make your suggestions in the form of re-posting the entire 1-20 list in the same colour scheme with changes you've made in italics.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

Just one thing please, as I have no idea how many responses we'll get regarding this thread.

Finnnnnnnnnnne.

I fixed my post.

[nois-or-e]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Finnnnnnnnnnne.

I fixed my post.

Thanks mate ;D

Also guys, try to remember that we are aiming for unique acronyms across the board. Undoubtedly the biggest pain in thinking up new titles. With a need for more hard titles I changed D/VD from difficult to demanding as it fit better in the harder area of the difficulty scale. But as with all of these suggested titles, are up for votes to change ;D

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Edit:

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Exclusively for Songs Like vROFL- Impossible
Unless, you plan putting vROFL under Ludicrous.

The only song in the 20 difficulty range is vRofl, hence it was put in the OP as ???, much as it appears in the engine atm as a 14~

That being said, nice usage of terms Stinger, my only issue with some of the titles is repetitive acronyms which would make referencing files a little tricky over time. (Though I am confident people would be able to adjust)

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Double Edit: I am aware that in saying we are after unique acronyms that I have used Easiest and Easy in theOP list, lol

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

nice usage of terms Stinger, my only issue with some of the titles is repetitive acronyms which would make referencing files a little tricky over time. (Though I am confident people would be able to adjust)

Take it as you will, I figured that most of the opinions given would all be used together equally for creating the new system. Hopefully, some of my acronyms will be taken into consideration when creating the final list of difficulties for the new difficulty system. None of the acronyms I've given have a "Very" at the beginning, so it's easy enough to slap one on if it's needed.

People will need to adjust to the new system anyways since it's going from a 1-13 scale to a 1-19 scale. (Excluding vROFL,) I'm certain that people will find it a bit difficult to navigate the songs at first, thinking that an 11-difficulty is an FMO when it actually is a high-end Challenging song, which in fact brings up a question to ask.

Have you given any thought on what difficulty the Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] token will be now in light of this new difficulty system? Will it still be under the For Masters Only difficulty and up (16+ difficulty) or will you be changing it based on the actual difficulty of the songs in each bracket and planned on moving it up or down from FMO? (Had to ask, getting close to the FMO AAA.)

[nois-or-e]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Have you given any thought on what difficulty the Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] token will be now in light of this new difficulty system? Will it still be under the For Masters Only difficulty and up (16+ difficulty) or will you be changing it based on the actual difficulty of the songs in each bracket and planned on moving it up or down from FMO? (Had to ask, getting close to the FMO AAA.)

I am glad someone asked about this, with the heavy/oni 'get' files needing a much overdue overhaul (which I was going to put forward just before I took on co-ordinating this project), I figured that once this system is finally in place, we'll be able to set each one to a range of difficulties in the 1-99 rankings.
(ex. Difficulty 70-75 AAA will award [oni])

Things like this of course will be taken into consideration once it is all finalised. I know for one there is discussions happening about the way those two particular tokens are coded. So all I can say is ~stay tuned~ and as soon as I know what direction we are taking regarding those token 'gets', you guys will be well informed via the front page ;D

[omgfail]

What about a bracket-type system? It would be easier for newer players to pick up, too.

1. Beginner 1
2. Beginner 2
3. Beginner 3

4. Light 1
5. Light 2
6. Light 3

7. Normal 1
8. Normal 2
9. Normal 3

10. Heavy 1
11. Heavy 2
12. Heavy 3

13. Challenge 1
14. Challenge 2
15. Challenge 3

16. Oni 1
17. Oni 2
18. Oni 3

19. Mega-Dump
20. Giga-Dump
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21. Tera-Dump
22. Peta-Dump
23. Exa-Dump
24. Zetta-Dump

[TheSaxRunner05]

Originally Posted by nois-or-e

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Double Edit: I am aware that in saying we are after unique acronyms that I have used Easiest and Easy in theOP list, lol

... But no one cares/debates those file difficulties, lol

For Legends Only or Legendary just has to be in the game. It would be ....

Wait for it ....

Wait for itttttttt...............


Legendary!!!

[icontrolyourworld]

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Light
06- Simple
07- Standard
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
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11- Challenging
12- Very Challenging
13- Painful
14- Very Painful
15- For Experts only
16- For Masters only
17- For Gurus only
18-Legendary
19- It's like pushing a car up a mountain with needles in your shoes and 3 guys pushing the car down the hill in 100 degree weather while a tiger is chasing you.
20- ???

Though I'm serious about 6, 13, 14, and 18 xD

[BahamutZER0]

Eh, change my mind on what I said earlier. Here's what I came up with:

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Simple
06- Light
07- Moderate
08- Standard
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
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11- Heavy
12- Challenging
13- Very Challenging
14- Demanding
15- Very Demanding
16- Exacting
17- Punishing
18- Brutal
19- Ridiculous
20- Impossible

Not sure about 20.
Would also like to see beginner replaced since I like the difficulties better without having to use "beginner/expert/master" etc. Think it's more consistent that way, can't think of one more easy name though.

[XxMidigamixX]

here's my suggestion:

01- Trivial
02- Easy Modo
03- Training
04- Simple
05- Easy
06- Moderate*
07- Standard*
08- Tricky
09- Very Tricky
10- Heavy
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11- Challenging
12- Very Challenging
13- Demanding
14- Almost there...
15- Masters
16- Oni
17- Brutal
18- Lunatic
19- Hard Pain
20- [Edit]

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feeling iffy about moderate/standard since they technically mean the same but I don't have a clue what to name them for now @.@

[EzExZeRo7497]

01- Easiest
02- Beginner
03- Very Easy
04- Easy
05- Very Simple
06- Simple
07- Standard
08- Moderate
09- Tricky
10- Very Tricky
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11- Difficult
12- Very Difficult
13- Challenging
14- Very Challenging
15- For Experts Only
16- For Masters Only
17- For Gurus Only
18- For Elites Only
19- For Legends Only
20- For Brutes Only

Kinda had no idea for 9-10 but eh.

[yo man im awesome]

20. Ridiculous