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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Votes from post 1 to post 784
Night in 41:18:46
---- Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
- 3 -- lurker -- thesunfan (103), choof (108), MixMasterLar (46)
- 2 -- AragakiAyase -- lurker (16), Hakulyte (68)
- 2 -- thesunfan -- AragakiAyase (100), Charu (100)
- 1 -- Charu -- rzr (31)
- 1 -- MixMasterLar -- DaBackpack (47)
- 4 -- not voting -- _Zenith_ (20), botchi246 (45), Gradiant (23), reuben_tate (25)
Originally posted by CharuComment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Change of plans for me:
AA, you're back to town for me, not because of what you just posted, but because I didn't read half of your posts and just did now.
I'm going back to lurker by default because at this point he's like a policy lynch. He's just not very helpful to town overall.
I wish I had a solid "typical" wolf call to throw here, but I don't at this stage of the game. I'm willing to listen to others who do tho.
I think choof is a fairly safe town lean because he commited pretty damn hard into making some sense in this game in multiple different ways.
I'm very suspicious of:
Gradiant, reuben_tate and DaBackPack.
I'm completely unable to make them lean town or wolf. It's like none of them have shown their real play and it's kind of annoying me.
I would like them to try to make some sort of reads and not just conveniently reply things that gives no alignment indication.
I'm leaving the other players alone because they commited enough voluntary or not into making themselves leaning in some direction for me.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Reading thread now.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Charu, Zenith, MixMasterLar:
I will fucking throw my vote on the next person that argues against the usage of these perfectly valid forms of argument/proof.
Self-meta can be an issue, but that and starting an argument with "Suppose I was a wolf..." are two entirely different things.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
For some reason, I didn't like the interaction between haku and choof regarding the slip up that haku had regarding the role counts. I can't think of a better word, but the back-and-forth between them felt almost artificial. One reason I think is because I interpreted haku's "slip up" as more of just being lazy with semantics. Most of the games on ffr twg (that I've played at least) only have 1 anti-town faction. Also, at this point in game (d0), there isn't much point in considering the dynamics of the various game mechanics. So colloquially lumping both factions as "wolves" at this stage shouldn't be surprising; sure, another term like "anti-town faction members" could have been used but it's a bit more clunky.
I haven't looked too much into the setup myself, but I want to claim that if choof is an anti-town, then haku is also an anti-town of the same faction. Suppose by proof of motherfucking contradiction that choof is an anti-town and haku doesn't belong to choof's faction. We see that choof "hard" claimed that haku was town; however, it'd be absurd for choof to protect someone that wasn't in his faction, a contradiction. Thus, if choof is anti-town, then haku is anti-town of the same faction.
Equivalently, if haku doesn't belong to a particular faction, then choof also doesn't belong to that same faction.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Btw, the "hard" is in quotes because it was hard in the sense that it appeared that choof was using that as substantial evidence to "prove" that haku was town.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
One thing we can do is lynch choof. If he flips red, we're lucky and we can immediately lynch haku afterwards (assuming my analysis isn't shit). However, I want to keep choof around.
Alternatively, we can lynch haku. If haku flips red, we'll only be semi-lucky: we'll know that choof isn't in the same faction but we may very well be in another one if another one exists. Although this doesn't provide as much information, I feel like this option would be better. At best, Haku is a townie that's being counter-productive and confusing everyone with mind games (in particular the "special role" thing).
Also, haku's posts seem to have developed a more wishy-washy feel with an increased amount of qualifiers which isn't a good sign. I know that I sometimes like to qualify everything I say as well because I'm very indecisive which makes it hard for me to commit to my own thoughts and to have strong convictions without substantial evidence. However, I feel like this is behavior that I've only seen recently which makes me think that it is possible that you taking additional precautions due to the added pressure.Comment
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
Lurker is at l-2
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Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)
We should not lynch choof today, likely ever
We should kill lurker, or failing that rzr, botchi, or mixmaster
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