haven't been here in a long long while

[Sudden2]

hey guys

i randomly decided to come back and see wtf is up with everyone

people probably don't remember me but oh well

yay ffr circa 2004

good times, i guess

[omgitznpv]

Location: not on FFR thats for sure.

[Sudden2]

yeah, considering i'm not here 99.99999% of the time it seems appropriate

[Breakdown16]

Hi. FFR's changed a lot; go look at all the new stuff.

[Sudden2]

yeah it has, it's really daunting actually

a while back i played all of the new games that have come out and really liked spin it up, decided i didn't want to get addicted to another rhythm game and moved on, lol

can't say i really agree with some of the bubbly overlatent design choices, but that's probably because i get nostalgic when i see this site

[DDRBaller123]

oh **** welcome back

[TheRapingDragon]

Why'd you leave?

[Sudden2]

hey baller


i left mostly because i was getting really tired of the elitism that was really prevalent here, i don't know if it still is or not, but i got tired of the general cockwaggery, "my post count is bigger than yours therefore i have superiority," good stepfiles were severely underrated because they weren't made by the best of the best, while complete bull**** files that many of the top stepfile artists were making were gobbled up by everybody, the only scores "worth posting" were scores that the elites posted and a "good score" could only be considered good if it was insane like AAAAing quasar 1.5 or something, when a player posted something that another player could beat it turned into "YOU ****ING SUCK AT THIS GAME YOU GOT 4 MORE PERFECTS THAN I DID" when realistically good scores should be in the eye of the beholder. on top of that i was really young, and shouldn't have been here in the first place, but about a month after R2 came out it was my opinion that this place wasn't worth visiting anymore, so i left. looking back on it i can see why arch0wl left when he did.

tl;dr elitism

it would be good to see some people here from the old days though

[rzr]

I haven't even been here for a year, and I miss the way it was back when I first joined. The post whoring doesn't bother me as much as the flaming, and lack of moderation of it. The moderators are nice, I have a good rapport with them, but I think they've lowered their standards on what they deem flaming.

Anyway, welcome back, I hope we can get better acquainted.

[TheRapingDragon]

Originally Posted by Sudden2

i left mostly because i was getting really tired of the elitism that was really prevalent here, i don't know if it still is or not, but i got tired of the general cockwaggery, "my post count is bigger than yours therefore i have superiority,"

Still around with the odd person but generally I don't see that around anymore. The only elitism is FFya and maybe TGB panel to a lesser extent.

good stepfiles were severely underrated because they weren't made by the best of the best, while complete bull**** files that many of the top stepfile artists were making were gobbled up by everybody

Lots of files get accepted now. The game has tons of artists. There are stepfile judges who judge what files can and cannot go into FFR. Although not perfect, they get the job done.

, the only scores "worth posting" were scores that the elites posted and a "good score" could only be considered good if it was insane like AAAAing quasar 1.5 or something, when a player posted something that another player could beat it turned into "YOU ****ING SUCK AT THIS GAME YOU GOT 4 MORE PERFECTS THAN I DID"

Is always going to happen in a competitive game. Unfortunately SM and whatnot has become a huge bull**** fest and I don't really try to keep up with it anymore.

on top of that i was really young, and shouldn't have been here in the first place, but about a month after R2 came out it was my opinion that this place wasn't worth visiting anymore, so i left. looking back on it i can see why arch0wl left when he did.

Arch0wl came back a while back and posts the odd time here and there, though more at ODI (omgdidinsane, a forum with some FFR banned people and some others).

Everyone comes back eventually.

But ya, the site is worth being around. It can be pretty fun. If only for me =[.

[Sudden2]

i only really pop up around here every once in a while, heh, mostly because i find internet communities to be overwhelmingly... what's the word... egoic.

after going through the g-bin which used to be one of my favorite boards since you could do anything there, it makes me sad to see it turn into some sort of work safe "4chan"esque minded environment (i see a bunch of regurgitated memes on this site already) not to mention in one of the announcements it says "if you are new nobody cares about you or your opinion," so i guess not much has changed in two years, community wise.

i do however like the fact that people can actually talk on these boards without being continually ridiculed and shat all over, at least that much has changed :P

Lots of files get accepted now. The game has tons of artists. There are stepfile judges who judge what files can and cannot go into FFR. Although not perfect, they get the job done.

thank god... i went back to bemanistyle to see how things had changed and my god... it's so bad... they even wiped their database so all of my work (basically 2 years of my life on this game) is gone, sad. as far as ffr goes, i'm just glad they put in speed mods which is the only reason i never played it.

Arch0wl came back a while back and posts the odd time here and there, though more at ODI (omgdidinsane, a forum with some FFR banned people and some others).

Everyone comes back eventually.

yeah, but i'm sure his fame has definitely wore off... at least to an extent. just like stoners "they always come back," seems to apply to many things in life.

can't say i really miss him though, or any of the older elites

whatever happened to reach, aperson, nima and the like?

[rzr]

I don't see much elitism by FFYa, just rudeness. And TGB panel, eh. The elitism comes from the jack asses that say their better than everyone else because of their stats, post count, or accomplishments. It's a feat to respect, no more. You cannot truely measure a person's power/honor over the internet, and people do. Which makes them elitists.

[TheRapingDragon]

Well people like myself prefer to use witticisms and cleverly disguised sarcasm instead of flat out ****ting on people.

Also, egoic isn't a word. Think you probably mean egoistic or egocentric. But what is the internet if not a huge ego pool. You get it where you can.

I don't remember that announcement part but ya, if you saw the influx of bad posts that TGB gets from new posters then you'd feel that way too.

Though TGB unfortunately has become a little bad at the moment, but we have other outlets for better stuff anyway, TGB will improve in time again. There are good threads in there if you look around enough.

EDIT:

You cannot truely measure a person's power/honor over the internet

Yes, you can. Site Owner > Admin > Moderator > User.

The few rule over the many.

Honour and an internet forum should not be mixed.

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Sudden2

i find internet communities to be overwhelmingly... what's the word... egoic.

egotistical rofl

comparison of the importance of stepmania on ffr THEN and NOW

THEN



NOW

[rzr]

No, you can't measure how great someone is from behind a screen. You can measure their skills in a particular field, but, without the proper knowledge, the opinion becomes void.

[Sudden2]

egoic, meaning the thoughtform of the ego, egocentric, egotistical, whatever you want to call it the fact remains that yeah, all people do here and essentially everywhere else is see who's penis is bigger

yeah pete i know, i realized that years ago, the whole sm community crashed and burned and then we all pissed on it, then pissed on each other

it was GRAND!

god damn internet INTERNET

IIINTERNET

[DDRBaller123]

the sm community is still a crash and burn now. Stepmania.com is a 4.0/ITG convention and bemanistyle.com is making people think that 4.0 is the ****. and odi is for people who thiink ffr is for noobs andi will find a way to flame your ass no matter what. THATS WHAT I THINK

[Synthlight]

I heard that Synthlight is old.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[Grandiagod]

You've been alive 15 years longer than me.

But my postcount is bigger so suck it.

[virus003]

Originally Posted by Synthlight

I heard that Synthlight is old.

Cheers,

Synthlight

you are old... in an old but in a somewhat cool way xD