New song Wave Rip

Doctor_Attitude · 06-24-2008, 03:34 AM

Just dicked around today after learning a new piano piece.

Me live recording on piano.... though I don't know why I add that I suck XP

Oh yeah, it's Mario Remix. Dire Dire Docks.

Kind of decided to make it a swing mix... who knows why.

I was bored I suppose, but always trying to improve my skills, critique is nice as always

EDIT:: Oh yeah, that. The song.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/153389

After listening with fresh ears I'll probably redo most of this ****, but I posted anyways so here we go.

Biff_tech · 06-24-2008, 03:37 AM

I would critique if there was anything here, like a link or something.

**SpookG** · 06-24-2008, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biff_tech

I would critique if there was anything here, like a link or something.

Lol pwnd in the face Hattitude. Lawl.

**Cavernio** · 06-24-2008, 07:08 AM

I don't know the original that this was taken from, but at the very start, when you have the 4 chords of 'choir', the 3rd chord has a note that doesn't go well. I think this is carried throughout much of the entire song. I also think it's very purposeful, but I'm not sure it works as well as you'd like. Same for the entire section leading up to the panned pizzicato...some notes don't 'fit' well, always in the 3rd chord of the 4 chord progression. If you're searching for a melody note to fit with a chord progression, and you can't find one that's perfect, never just settle!! If you can't find something you like, consider changing the chord progression itself. Also, if you want something a little different, (which is probably why the melodic note is not always in-sync with the underlying chord), don't just put a non-chord note for the entire duration of that chord...have an off note for only part of it, then when you resolve that dischord, it makes it sound all the more awesome.
At around the 2:25 mark, you decide to change the base note progression, while the melody clearly follows the chord progression which was just used. Again, I think I understand that you change the base line to make it more interesting; however, keeping the melody the same in this case just doesn't work with it.

So, I've been totally critical, however, I really did enjoy listening to it. For a song which is largely just a series of similar 4 chord progressions, all the fluff you add in terms of instruments and sounds, sounds really good to me. (Well, except for those snare drums, but I think that's more just me disliking snare drums in most of the ways they are used.)
My advice to you is to experiment more at the beginning stages of the song creation purely to make sure you've got great notes. Everything else you do sounds great to me.

I really like the pizzicato section

bluguerrilla · 06-24-2008, 09:45 AM

I didn't like the drum solo because it wasn't very inventive and needs more drums and cymbals. I don't know, maybe it was just what you did with the bass drum that I didn't like.

I liked the piano, very jazzy. The quirkiness of it put it in the spotlight for me, which I thought was good.

Overall I really liked the tune (brb playing N64) and thought you did a decent job catching the watery feeling.

Doctor_Attitude · 06-24-2008, 03:56 PM

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/153389

I editted it since you guys made the comments, it helped a lot, actually.

I wanted that third chord to have a minor fifth but upon redoing the structure of the song the major triad just makes things far simpler.

Check it out, I'm very proud of how this turned out. It just needs some hours in mastering.

**l Endorphin l** · 06-25-2008, 11:12 AM

KGZ, shut up. You and I both know that Rhodes is amazing as hell.
I still don't like the drum patch, but I can deal with it.
BTW That Pizz violin sounds totally Aphex.

06-24-2008, 03:34 AM	#1
Doctor_Attitude FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 47	New song Wave Rip Just dicked around today after learning a new piano piece. Me live recording on piano.... though I don't know why I add that I suck XP Oh yeah, it's Mario Remix. Dire Dire Docks. Kind of decided to make it a swing mix... who knows why. I was bored I suppose, but always trying to improve my skills, critique is nice as always EDIT:: Oh yeah, that. The song. http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/153389 After listening with fresh ears I'll probably redo most of this ***, but I posted anyways so here we go. Last edited by Doctor_Attitude; 06-24-2008 at 04:53 AM..*

06-24-2008, 03:37 AM	#2
Biff_tech so the 17 ate the 12 eh. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WTF are you a stalker Age: 34 Posts: 826	Re: New song Wave Rip I would critique if there was anything here, like a link or something. __________________ CLICK \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ Sig by Darkmonkey AKA Clowd

06-24-2008, 07:08 AM	#4
Cavernio sunshine and rainbows Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 1,987	Re: New song Wave Rip I don't know the original that this was taken from, but at the very start, when you have the 4 chords of 'choir', the 3rd chord has a note that doesn't go well. I think this is carried throughout much of the entire song. I also think it's very purposeful, but I'm not sure it works as well as you'd like. Same for the entire section leading up to the panned pizzicato...some notes don't 'fit' well, always in the 3rd chord of the 4 chord progression. If you're searching for a melody note to fit with a chord progression, and you can't find one that's perfect, never just settle!! If you can't find something you like, consider changing the chord progression itself. Also, if you want something a little different, (which is probably why the melodic note is not always in-sync with the underlying chord), don't just put a non-chord note for the entire duration of that chord...have an off note for only part of it, then when you resolve that dischord, it makes it sound all the more awesome. At around the 2:25 mark, you decide to change the base note progression, while the melody clearly follows the chord progression which was just used. Again, I think I understand that you change the base line to make it more interesting; however, keeping the melody the same in this case just doesn't work with it. So, I've been totally critical, however, I really did enjoy listening to it. For a song which is largely just a series of similar 4 chord progressions, all the fluff you add in terms of instruments and sounds, sounds really good to me. (Well, except for those snare drums, but I think that's more just me disliking snare drums in most of the ways they are used.) My advice to you is to experiment more at the beginning stages of the song creation purely to make sure you've got great notes. Everything else you do sounds great to me. I really like the pizzicato section

06-24-2008, 09:45 AM	#5
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: New song Wave Rip I didn't like the drum solo because it wasn't very inventive and needs more drums and cymbals. I don't know, maybe it was just what you did with the bass drum that I didn't like. I liked the piano, very jazzy. The quirkiness of it put it in the spotlight for me, which I thought was good. Overall I really liked the tune (brb playing N64) and thought you did a decent job catching the watery feeling. __________________

06-24-2008, 03:56 PM	#6
Doctor_Attitude FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 47	Re: New song Wave Rip http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/153389 I editted it since you guys made the comments, it helped a lot, actually. I wanted that third chord to have a minor fifth but upon redoing the structure of the song the major triad just makes things far simpler. Check it out, I'm very proud of how this turned out. It just needs some hours in mastering.

06-25-2008, 11:12 AM	#7
l Endorphin l Maybe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mckinney, Texas Age: 33 Posts: 574	Re: New song Wave Rip KGZ, shut up. You and I both know that Rhodes is amazing as hell. I still don't like the drum patch, but I can deal with it. BTW That Pizz violin sounds totally Aphex.

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