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Old 05-6-2007, 04:11 AM   #1
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First of all: I would like to state that rape is indeed a terrible, terrible event, and I mean no emotional harm to anyone who may have been unfortunate.

Recently, I have discovered that "rape" today isn't always rape. I've walked past groups of girls and heard enough to discover they had used "rape" as a scapegoat, to avoid consequences, all the while putting some innocent guy in juvi for 1 to 3 years, humiliating him and depriving him of opportunities.

Now, because rape is considered such a terrible, sacreligious crime, more than likely, when a claim is made by a girl, they will be sided with. I've heard of so many innocent guys, having they're life screwed up by some chick who couldn't deal with the choices she made.

The only problem is, telling the difference a) at all and b) before its too late. You don;t want to let a rapist go free, but you don't want someone innocent in juvi or jail either.

But now, it seems to me (and perhaps only me... who knows) that rape is more than likely a scapegoat, and that's really unfair. I mean come on.

The matter should be more thoroughly investigated before fates are decided.

What do you think? is rape more likely a scapegoat in today's world, or a terrible crime aforementioned in all of history? And why?
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Old 05-6-2007, 04:15 AM   #2
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Well I'm a male.

And rape doesn't work as a escapegoats for me.
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yea rape is becoming such a big deal
even with the whole, how long does the guy have to pull out if the girl consents at first, then changes her mind, before it's considered rape
ppl are just becoming so horrible and manipulative
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No humor then, George Carlin is incredible. I hope don't like Dane Cook..
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Rape is a very serious thing, but then again, I know what you're talking about. Ever since I lost my virginity about a year ago, my friends have been telling over and over that I should tell my parents, and then random people I don't know keep urging me to tell the police. Why is this? Because I was fourteen years old at the time and the guy was twenty. Now, technically, that is statutory rape, but, honestly, I did it out of my own free will.

I wasn't forced into it, bribed into it or anything. I was basically a hormone driven young teenage girl who wanted to try something. Yeah, it's regretful to look back on now, but still. There were basically no consequences to this choice I made, other than the fact that I lost something very sacred to someone who just wanted to "have fun", which was perfectly fine with me. I'm not pregnant, I have no STD's.

Now, if I were to go and tell my parents, they would automatically call the police, because I know how they are. Then they'd probably force me into telling them who the guy is, by using malicious threats.

They would find the guy, throw him in jail, and I would probably never get to use a computer ever again. That is not fair, that a young man in college would get his life thrown away just because of the decision a stupid teenager girl like myself made. It's just not right.

I also don't want to lose my computer, so, it's a win/win situation for me and him.
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i completely agree with you, i only wish there were more girls like yourself out there... unfortunately, that nearly identical situation occurred to one of my relatives and was convicted, but by the time it was found out she had lied, he had spent the rest of high school in jail... it was quite a shame...
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First of all: I would like to state that rape is indeed a terrible, terrible event, and I mean no emotional harm to anyone who may have been unfortunate.

Recently, I have discovered that "rape" today isn't always rape. I've walked past groups of girls and heard enough to discover they had used "rape" as a scapegoat, to avoid consequences, all the while putting some innocent guy in juvi for 1 to 3 years, humiliating him and depriving him of opportunities.

Now, because rape is considered such a terrible, sacreligious crime, more than likely, when a claim is made by a girl, they will be sided with. I've heard of so many innocent guys, having they're life screwed up by some chick who couldn't deal with the choices she made.

The only problem is, telling the difference a) at all and b) before its too late. You don;t want to let a rapist go free, but you don't want someone innocent in juvi or jail either.

But now, it seems to me (and perhaps only me... who knows) that rape is more than likely a scapegoat, and that's really unfair. I mean come on.

The matter should be more thoroughly investigated before fates are decided.

What do you think? is rape more likely a scapegoat in today's world, or a terrible crime aforementioned in all of history? And why?
I would say rape is a terrible thing thing to happen. If I had a choice of raping somebody, I would say ''no'' because it is wrong.
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Old 05-6-2007, 01:08 PM   #10
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it is... but thats not really what were talking about.
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I would say rape is a terrible thing thing to happen. If I had a choice of raping somebody, I would say ''no'' because it is wrong.
If you had a choice to rape someone? Are you saying that you might? And why would that even be a choice, or why would you even think about doing something like that?

If you were in a situation where you had "a choice" to rape someone, that's pretty sick in itself to even think it.
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If you had a choice to rape someone? Are you saying that you might? And why would that even be a choice, or why would you even think about doing something like that?

If you were in a situation where you had "a choice" to rape someone, that's pretty sick in itself to even think it.
No, I'm saying if someone peered pressure me to rape somebody, I would say
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Lol.

And, uhm, I've never heard of a person who peer pressures another individual into raping someone. Is that some kind of new thing that I haven't caught on? Last time I checked, school's have been telling us to avoid peer pressure from drugs, alcohol, and sex. Not raping people.
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Lol.

And, uhm, I've never heard of a person who peer pressures another individual into raping someone. Is that some kind of new thing that I haven't caught on? Last time I checked, school's have been telling us to avoid peer pressure from drugs, alcohol, and sex. Not raping people.
Yeah, that is true, but people peer pressure you to do other things too, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but peer pressure is advancing to certain levels.
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nyokou,

Thats seriously sad.
However,
I don't see why Arsenault wishes there were more "girls like you" out there...
I wish there were more girls not like you... =)
Ya know, virgin-types. Oh well.
I guess I'm the only dude left in this world
who has enough character to wait until marriage...

Oh well. Maybe I will get lucky.
Maybe there is some retarded, or even paralyzed girl who will be a virgin.
Maybe she will be nice, and we will have things in common.
(not counting the retarded, paralyzed, or virgin thing)...

Nah, probobly not.
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Yeah, that is true, but people peer pressure you to do other things too, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but peer pressure is advancing to certain levels.
Well, it's true that you can get peer pressured into doing almost anything unimaginable and gruesome, or un-human even.

I just find it highly unlikely that you'd find yourself in that type of situation, unless you're an ill-tempered person and getting peer pressured by a friend or something to rape (for example) an ex-girlfriend or a girl you don't like just because you're mad at them. :/

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Kyle, you completely ignored the point of my post. I'm not sad, and there should be more girls like me, you know why? Because getting someone thrown in jail for accusing them of something they didn't intend to perceive as something wrong because you were okay with them doing it, is totally bs. I'm not going to risk getting myself in that situation because I'm a good person. I don't want to ruin his life, and I made that decision to do it anyway, out of my own free will. Yeah, my morals may not be as good as I'd want them to be, but hell, at least I stopped before I could really get myself into a situation I don't want to be in.

Really, people like you are so closed minded and that comment had absolutely no relation to what this topic is about, and why I even chose to re-tell that story. :/
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nyokou,

Thats seriously sad.
However,
I don't see why Arsenault wishes there were more "girls like you" out there...
I wish there were more girls not like you... =)
Ya know, virgin-types. Oh well.
I guess I'm the only dude left in this world
who has enough character to wait until marriage...

Oh well. Maybe I will get lucky.
Maybe there is some retarded, or even paralyzed girl who will be a virgin.
Maybe she will be nice, and we will have things in common.
(not counting the retarded, paralyzed, or virgin thing)...

Nah, probobly not.
All my dreams of finding a perfect wife = Fail.
Just don't be sad dude, I bet you'll find the perfect girl in your life one day.
That is what I hope to do to.
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