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Old 10-31-2006, 06:26 AM   #1
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Default Just a question about faster songs.

Is there some kind of secret to reading the faster steps on songs like force of light? do you see them in patterns or do you see each individual step?

I'm stuck in a rut in my FFR ability, and the songs here don't help much either. They're either easy, or way too difficult to pass without mashing.
Any hints/secrets/practice tips etc would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any advice/support.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:45 AM   #2
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

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Old 10-31-2006, 07:01 AM   #3
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:05 AM   #4
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:19 AM   #5
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Play stepmania they'll be some song that are in between having it too easy and it being impossible to pass without mashing.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:20 AM   #6
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

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Do that, do that, and tried that. screen shrinking actually makes it harder for me.
Though, my main question never was answered. Do you see the faster arrows as patterns, or as individual arrows?

Also, as I already stated, either the songs are easy or just impossible. There's no inbetween practice material.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:29 AM   #7
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

It is certainly possible to see it as patterns, but with practice your reaction rate goes up. So in essence you are reacting to individual arrows.

Beethoven Virus used to be a pretty cool practice song, too bad it's gone. Also, Go Go Power Rangers and Stalled Out and Sushi Bars are good. Try those.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:34 AM   #8
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Thanks =] Will try those now.

Stalled and Sushi looks pretty good for practice. I can hit atleast half the faster arrows on it. Compaired to 1/10th of them on other songs.

I think I'll keep at this song til I can FC it regularly.

Also, if it's not too much trouble, could you suggest some future songs I should work at as well?

Thanks again.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:57 AM   #9
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

ub3r4v3 funnest song ever and its definitly not impossible
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:04 AM   #10
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

haha, Biff, I like the song, yet I can only do the slow parts.
When I said "Impossible" I mean, that it was impossible for me to pass with a decent score, and without mashing.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:07 AM   #11
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

To answer your question, I see them in patterns. A good song to practice seeing patterns is Night of Flight because it doesn't overwhelm you with a non-stop barrage of patterns...just a few quick simple ones

Also, play Euthanasia. It's a nice slow easy stream song.

Lastly, you have to screenshrink. It makes recognizing the patterns so much easier. Without screen shrinking you might see 50 arrows on the screen at once. With screen shrinking you'll only see 25. Which do you think is easier for your brain to process?
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:12 AM   #12
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Point well taken Pinoy. I'll try those songs as soon as I find them, and if I begin to get overwhelmed with arrows, I'll try screen shrinking again.

Thanks again everyone. =]
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:15 AM   #13
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Night of Flight is a Purchased song. Euthanasia is in Misc. Good luck!
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:23 AM   #14
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Found'em and thanks! They seem to be exactly what I was looking for.

Something that's not "OMGWTF?!" difficulty. Yet, still challenging to the point that I am far from being able to FC them.

Hints/tips/secrets are all welcome.=] Great bunch of posters in here so far!
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:43 AM   #15
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Screen shrink so you can just barely see the bottom of the word 'Perfect' when you play. You will start getting many less goods/averages, and the patterns will become easier to read with practice. You can screen shrink even higher as you find you can read it well.

Play spread. Either use the arrow keys + numpad arrow keys or download www.autohotkey.com and make a script somewhat like this:

a::Send {left}
s::Send {down}
k::Send {up}
l::Send {right}

I find spread much easier than four-fingered on the arrow keys. Your hands aren't as cluttered and you can do a lot more that way.

For songs to practice, try any slower to moderately fast stream songs, like Euthanasia, Wish (For FFR), CIA Rave, etc.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:51 AM   #16
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

This is the best advice I can give, for I was where you are a little while back.

Go to the FFR R1 Actual difficulties page and find some songs you can just barely fc. Play them play them play them, and play them some more. After long enough, you will simply be able to read the paterns out of algarythm. Also, playing SM helps. I look at the arrows as a whole.
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:00 AM   #17
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

stalled out and sushi bars and etude to a dragon are good songs to practice on also, nice easy streams with some breaks
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:24 PM   #18
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

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Play spread. Either use the arrow keys + numpad arrow keys or download www.autohotkey.com and make a script somewhat like this:

a::Send {left}
s::Send {down}
k::Send {up}
l::Send {right}
I really like that setup. I just felt of it and it is definately not cluttered.

Will try it right away to see if it works for me.

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Also, playing SM helps. I look at the arrows as a whole.
I have SM but I'm having trouble finding sims I can actually play. Most of them that I find, like here, are either easy or way too difficult. I'd be very pleased if someone could point my towards some intermediate sims. =]


Thanks for all your helpful posts guys. =]
I expected some kind of flaming I guess. Being a message board with so many people. heh.
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I have SM but I'm having trouble finding sims I can actually play. Most of them that I find, like here, are either easy or way too difficult. I'd be very pleased if someone could point my towards some intermediate sims. =]
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Old 11-5-2006, 12:23 AM   #20
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Default Re: Just a question about faster songs.

Sorry for reviving this, but I just had to say. The Wolfman Rocks mister Talbot!
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