Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread

uhcougars2006 · 06-1-2006, 02:29 PM

Already Albert Pujols has over 725,000 votes. I will post updated votes when they are scheduled...

Schedule For Voting Announcements
Wednesday, May 31 AL Balloting Release #1
Monday, June 5 NL Balloting Release #2
Tuesday, June 6 AL Balloting Release #2
Monday, June 12 NL Balloting Release #3
Tuesday, June 13 AL Balloting Release #3
Monday, June 19 NL Balloting Release #4
Tuesday, June 20 AL Balloting Release #4
Monday, June 26 NL Balloting Release #5
Tuesday, June 27 AL Balloting Release #5
Sunday, July 2 NL/AL Starters & Reserves Announced

NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE
May 30, 2006

First Base
1. Albert Pujols, Cardinals 726,854
2. Carlos Delgado, Mets 220,484
3. Lance Berkman, Astros 174,278
4. Derrek Lee, Cubs 131,359
5. Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers 129,034

Second Base
1. Craig Biggio, Astros 303,616
2. Chase Utley, Phillies 286,247
3. Marcus Giles, Braves 153,988
4. Todd Walker, Cubs 150,322
5. Jeff Kent, Dodgers 140,691

Third Base
1. Scott Rolen, Cardinals 340,733
2. David Wright, Mets 292,335
3. Morgan Ensberg, Astros 198,930
4. Chipper Jones, Braves 184,331
5. Aramis Ramirez, Cubs 142,404

Shortstop
1. David Eckstein, Cardinals 284,547
2. Edgar Renteria, Braves 236,673
3. Jose Reyes, Mets 221,335
4. Jimmy Rollins, Phillies 206,780
5. Omar Vizquel, Giants 146,904

Catcher
1. Paul Lo Duca, Mets 273,059
2. Mike Piazza, Padres 264,787
3. Yadier Molina, Cardinals 256,270
4. Brad Ausmus, Astros 186,933
5. Michael Barrett, Cubs 182,309

Outfield
1. Andruw Jones, Braves 420,462
2. Carlos Beltran, Mets 341,769
3. Jim Edmonds, Cardinals 334,027
4. Ken Griffey, Jr., Reds 326,592
5. Alfonso Soriano, Nationals 273,373
6. Bobby Abreu, Phillies 244,212
7. Carlos Lee, Brewers 224,829
8. Barry Bonds, Giants 210,146
9. Adam Dunn, Reds 180,379
10. Aaron Rowand, Phillies 162,741
11. Xavier Nady, Mets 142,278
12. Juan Encarnacion, Cardinals 137,439
13. Jeff Francoeur, Braves 136,478
14. So Taguchi, Cardinals 135,178
15. Juan Pierre, Cubs 134,527

AMERICAN LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE
May 31, 2006

First Base

1. David Ortiz, Red Sox 451,431
2. Jason Giambi, Yankees 321,653
3. Paul Konerko, White Sox 206,472
4. Travis Hafner, Indians 154,878
5. Chris Shelton, Tigers 153,197

Second Base
1. Robinson Cano, Yankees 289,394
2. Mark Loretta, Red Sox 257,125
3. Tadahito Iguchi, White Sox 246,838
4. Brian Roberts, Orioles 130,702
5. Placido Polanco, Tigers 129,596

Third Base
1. Alex Rodriguez, Yankees 524,153
2. Mike Lowell, Red Sox 224,611
3. Joe Crede, White Sox 171,954
4. Eric Chavez, Athletics 167,020
5. Troy Glaus, Blue Jays 145,243

Shortstop
1. Derek Jeter, Yankees 537,218
2. Miguel Tejada, Orioles 370,078
3. Michael Young, Rangers 142,254
4. Alex Gonzalez, Red Sox 130,616
5. Juan Uribe, White Sox 121,304

Catcher
1. Jason Varitek, Red Sox 335,417
2. Ivan Rodriguez, Tigers 277,034
3. Jorge Posada, Yankees 241,736
4. Victor Martinez, Indians 196,987
5. A.J. Pierzynski, White Sox 180,562

Outfield
1. Manny Ramirez, Red Sox 516,658
2. Vladimir Guerrero, Angels 514,013
3. Johnny Damon, Yankees 393,643
4. Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners 279,843
5. Gary Sheffield, Yankees 275,688
6. Vernon Wells, Blue Jays 242,211
7. Hideki Matsui, Yankees 231,777
8. Scott Podsednik, White Sox 195,402
9. Coco Crisp, Red Sox 189,680
10. Jermaine Dye, White Sox 183,160
11. Trot Nixon, Red Sox 177,745
12. Torii Hunter, Twins 169,937
13. Grady Sizemore, Indians 137,716
14. Jonny Gomes, Devil Rays 132,264
15. Kevin Mench, Rangers 131,779

**Kilgamayan** · 06-1-2006, 02:46 PM

Ah yes, this. I think I've already mocked these standing to death so far over at GameFAQs.

AL:
1B: Can't go wrong with Ortiz, I guess, but the fact that Jim Thome isn't even in the top 5 is pathetic.
2B: Cano? LAFFO. I would put Joze Lopez, Luis Castillo, Tadahito Iguchi and Mark Grudzielanek all in front of him. Maybe even Mark Loretta but I suspect there's some bias sneaking in there. This selection alone is a demonstration of why fans shouldn't be allowed to vote.
SS: Jeter or Tejada works. As long as one of them starts this can't really be a disappointment. Gonzalez and Uribe are lol though. Where's Carlos Guillen? Where's Orlando Cabrera? Hell, even Yuniesky Betancourt would be better suited for the Top 5.
3B: Demonstration #2 of why the fans shouldn't get to vote. A-Rod, yeah fine, whatever. Why the hell is Troy Glaus so low? He's blowing every other AL 3B away in pretty much every offensive category and he's 2 spots back of Joe Crede? I think I'm going to be sick.
C: Even as a Red Sox fan I don't agree that Varitek deserves it so far. Maybe if he picks it up, but right now of those 5 I would give the nod to Ivan or Posada. Where the hell is Joe Mauer though? He deserves it more than any of those guys.
OF: I would complain about Alex Rios but the ballots were made at the beginning of the season, so oops. Still, Damon needs to go and Wells needs to start. Matsui, Crisp and Nixon are all laughable choices.

NL

1B: Pujols durhurhur
2B: I think Utley will overtake Biggio given enough time so I'm not too worried here.
SS: Eh, I want to see Jose Reyes start but his average isn't great and I have a hard time arguing against the league leader in hits. Drop Jimmy Rollins and throw Hanley Ramirez into the mix.
3B: Fail. Where's Miguel Cabrera? Get Ramirez the hell out of there. I would also take Wright or Ensberg in front of Rolen.
C: No Brian McCann? Ugh. Paul LoDuca isn't even my second selection but at least he's better than every-other-day Piazza. Barrett should be higher.
OF: Why is Alfonso Soriano fifth? Why is Carlos Lee seventh? Why are Matt Holliday and Brad Hawpe completely absent? And why is Jim Edmonds third? Are you kidding me? Get rid of Bonds, Nady, Encarnacion, Francouer, Taguchi and Pierre while we're reshuffling this deck. The only reason the starting OF shouldn't be Soriano/Lee/Holliday is because they can't all play left field, so I guess Beltran or Jones is necessary for some semblance of defense.

Conclusion: Fans are idiots. Give the selection power to the managers or baseball administration.

PS: lol comic sans

**Tasselfoot** · 06-1-2006, 03:10 PM

I am Tass, and I approve Kilga's post.

GuidoHunter · 06-1-2006, 03:31 PM

Man, FUCK PUJOLS! (Say it aloud, kids)

But really, that list needs more Rangers.

And what's "official" about this thread? bmx needs to be banned for staff imitation...

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

sertman · 06-1-2006, 03:33 PM

My mock.. It's pretty close to Kilga's, except for the NL outfield

C: Varitek - He's having a pretty good year in a year where catchers really aren't making much of a splash.
1B: Ortiz - A hell of a power hitter, probably the AL hitter who I would least want to face with the bases loaded
2B: Castillo - This is very close between him and Lopez, but I just felt Castillo's made a bigger impact. Cano is good but he's inconsistant and not worthy of the All-Star game this year
SS: Tejada - Tejada is better than Jeter, not by much though
3B: Rodriguez: He's an unbelievable player, probably the superstar on a team ful of stars. I was suprised that Glaus was so low... he's very underrated, and the problem with fan voting is that they look at the big names (like Loretta) and don't look at who's having the better year. But hey, it's the fans game, it's their All-Stars, so w/e
OF: Ramirez, Wells, Damon: All three are having great years, Ramirez especially. What is up with Matsui being so high? Do the Yankee fans get to vote twice? What is going on

NL
C: LoDuca - Why in the world does Molina have so many votes? He's not All-Star caliber just yet. LoDuca is having a decent year when again catchers aren't making too much of an impact
1B: Pujols: No-brainer here, but it's amazing how stacked the NL 1B are. It's really a shame for players like Delgado, Lee (even if he is injured), and Berkman who all are good enough to start in the AL (or at least back up Ortiz) but 2 of them won't even make it.
2B: Utley: Easily the best 2nd basemen in the game, I think Biggio is winning because he gets a lot of sympathy votes for basically having his theme song be "Hit me baby one more time"
SS: Eckstein: Great hitter, great fielder, great player overall. Not much of a hard choice here.
3B: Ensburg: Talk about underrated. Why the HELL is Rolan in first? Just another big name that fans assume is having a great year and vote fo him.
OF: Beltran, Jones, Abreu - How anyone can pick Soriano is beyond me. He can hit, but his fielding is atrocious (he leads the league in errors last i checked). Anyone who's ever watched a Nationals game more than once will get a "please catch this" feeling whenever a ball is hit to left. Beltran and Jones are having pretty good years, Beltran's been hurt but he's bounced back pretty well, and Jones is having a pretty good year, except it's moreso defensively. Griffey in 4th? Get the hell out of here.

uhcougars2006 · 06-1-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sertman

What is up with Matsui being so high? Do the Yankee fans get to vote twice? What is going on?

I don't see why Matsui is in the ballot. He can't play because of his fractured left wrist...REMEMBER? The New York Yankees' trainers said he won't be able to play till August or something.

sertman · 06-1-2006, 03:54 PM

Because the ballots are printed before the injuries occur. You'll notice that Derrick Lee is on the ballot as well.

**Kilgamayan** · 06-1-2006, 03:54 PM

I think Soriano's stick has hit well enough to merit overlooking the every-day adventure in left field, but that's just me.

While we're at it, I'll pick pitching. 13-15 should be good enough, right?

These are more or less in team order.

AL

Mike Mussina (Starter)
Curt Schilling
Roy Halladay
Scott Kazmir
Kenny Rogers
Justin Verlander
Mark Buehrle
Freddy Garcia
Jose Contreras (starter if not Mussina)
Johan Santana

Jonathan Papelbon (closer)
Mariano Rivera
BJ Ryan
Chris Ray (one of the most underrated closers this year: third in the AL in saves, hasn't blown one yet, sub-2.5 ERA and 1.12 WHIP)

NL

Brandon Webb (starter)
Pedro Martinez
Tom Glavine
Chris Carpenter (if healthy)
Aaron Harang
Bronson Arroyo
Roy Oswalt
Chris Capuano
Carlos Zambrano
Jason Schmidt

Tom Gordon (closer)
Jason Isringhausen
Trevor Hoffman
Brian Fuentes

sertman · 06-1-2006, 03:58 PM

I'd start Webb, but either Schilling or Kazmir over Mussina.

**Kilgamayan** · 06-1-2006, 04:01 PM

I was debating the Schilling idea too, but Mussina has a better ERA, better WHIP and more strikeouts (admittedly in one more game though). All Schilling has on Mussina is wins, by 1.

EDIT: As for Kazmir, they match in wins, Kazmir has 3 more strikeouts (again, in one less game) but Mussina wins ERA and WHIP once again. I guess thsis one is a toss-up. Looking at lesser categories, Mussina had 10 less walks and a lower BAA, but Kazmir has been less prone to the gopher ball.

uhcougars2006 · 06-1-2006, 04:17 PM

This is just my thought:

Starting Pitchers:
Roy Oswalt vs. Scott Kazmir

EDIT:
Tom Glavine vs. Jose Contreras

sertman · 06-6-2006, 06:29 AM

wtf WHY IS GRIFFEY IN THE TOP 3

COME ON BASEBALL FANS I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS

uhcougars2006 · 06-6-2006, 11:40 AM

Schedule For Voting Announcements
Wednesday, May 31 AL Balloting Release #1
Monday, June 5 NL Balloting Release #2
Tuesday, June 6 AL Balloting Release #2
Monday, June 12 NL Balloting Release #3
Tuesday, June 13 AL Balloting Release #3
Monday, June 19 NL Balloting Release #4
Tuesday, June 20 AL Balloting Release #4
Monday, June 26 NL Balloting Release #5
Tuesday, June 27 AL Balloting Release #5
Sunday, July 2 NL/AL Starters & Reserves Announced

NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE
May 30, 2006

First Base
1. Albert Pujols, Cardinals 726,854
2. Carlos Delgado, Mets 220,484
3. Lance Berkman, Astros 174,278
4. Derrek Lee, Cubs 131,359
5. Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers 129,034

Second Base
1. Craig Biggio, Astros 303,616
2. Chase Utley, Phillies 286,247
3. Marcus Giles, Braves 153,988
4. Todd Walker, Cubs 150,322
5. Jeff Kent, Dodgers 140,691

Third Base
1. Scott Rolen, Cardinals 340,733
2. David Wright, Mets 292,335
3. Morgan Ensberg, Astros 198,930
4. Chipper Jones, Braves 184,331
5. Aramis Ramirez, Cubs 142,404

Shortstop
1. David Eckstein, Cardinals 284,547
2. Edgar Renteria, Braves 236,673
3. Jose Reyes, Mets 221,335
4. Jimmy Rollins, Phillies 206,780
5. Omar Vizquel, Giants 146,904

Catcher
1. Paul Lo Duca, Mets 273,059
2. Mike Piazza, Padres 264,787
3. Yadier Molina, Cardinals 256,270
4. Brad Ausmus, Astros 186,933
5. Michael Barrett, Cubs 182,309

Outfield
1. Andruw Jones, Braves 420,462
2. Carlos Beltran, Mets 341,769
3. Jim Edmonds, Cardinals 334,027
4. Ken Griffey, Jr., Reds 326,592
5. Alfonso Soriano, Nationals 273,373
6. Bobby Abreu, Phillies 244,212
7. Carlos Lee, Brewers 224,829
8. Barry Bonds, Giants 210,146
9. Adam Dunn, Reds 180,379
10. Aaron Rowand, Phillies 162,741
11. Xavier Nady, Mets 142,278
12. Juan Encarnacion, Cardinals 137,439
13. Jeff Francoeur, Braves 136,478
14. So Taguchi, Cardinals 135,178
15. Juan Pierre, Cubs 134,527

ducky285 · 06-6-2006, 11:54 AM

Pujols probably won't be able to play. He got himself hurt.

Where the hell is Jim Thome? Don't they have a ****ing DH category?

**Kilgamayan** · 06-6-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducky285

Where the hell is Jim Thome? Don't they have a ****ing DH category?

Of course not, this year's game is in an NL park.

Thome will get taken as a reserve and will probably be the first pinch-hitter used.

esupin · 06-6-2006, 01:40 PM

Go Nomar rolf. He's actually been on a tear ever since he came back from an injury.

**Kilgamayan** · 06-6-2006, 02:45 PM

Also I guess I can knock Buehrle off the All-Star list. >_>

06-1-2006, 03:54 PM	#7
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 3,910	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Because the ballots are printed before the injuries occur. You'll notice that Derrick Lee is on the ballot as well. __________________

06-1-2006, 03:54 PM	#8
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread I think Soriano's stick has hit well enough to merit overlooking the every-day adventure in left field, but that's just me. While we're at it, I'll pick pitching. 13-15 should be good enough, right? These are more or less in team order. AL Mike Mussina (Starter) Curt Schilling Roy Halladay Scott Kazmir Kenny Rogers Justin Verlander Mark Buehrle Freddy Garcia Jose Contreras (starter if not Mussina) Johan Santana Jonathan Papelbon (closer) Mariano Rivera BJ Ryan Chris Ray (one of the most underrated closers this year: third in the AL in saves, hasn't blown one yet, sub-2.5 ERA and 1.12 WHIP) NL Brandon Webb (starter) Pedro Martinez Tom Glavine Chris Carpenter (if healthy) Aaron Harang Bronson Arroyo Roy Oswalt Chris Capuano Carlos Zambrano Jason Schmidt Tom Gordon (closer) Jason Isringhausen Trevor Hoffman Brian Fuentes __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

06-1-2006, 03:58 PM	#9
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 3,910	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread I'd start Webb, but either Schilling or Kazmir over Mussina. __________________

06-1-2006, 04:01 PM	#10
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread I was debating the Schilling idea too, but Mussina has a better ERA, better WHIP and more strikeouts (admittedly in one more game though). All Schilling has on Mussina is wins, by 1. EDIT: As for Kazmir, they match in wins, Kazmir has 3 more strikeouts (again, in one less game) but Mussina wins ERA and WHIP once again. I guess thsis one is a toss-up. Looking at lesser categories, Mussina had 10 less walks and a lower BAA, but Kazmir has been less prone to the gopher ball. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds. Last edited by Kilgamayan; 06-1-2006 at 04:05 PM..

06-1-2006, 04:17 PM	#11
uhcougars2006 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southeast Texas Age: 37 Posts: 74	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread This is just my thought: Starting Pitchers: Roy Oswalt vs. Scott Kazmir EDIT: Tom Glavine vs. Jose Contreras __________________ I'd like to see things from your perspective, but I can't get my head that far up my ass. Last edited by uhcougars2006; 06-1-2006 at 04:20 PM..

06-1-2006, 02:29 PM	#1
uhcougars2006 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southeast Texas Age: 37 Posts: 74	Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Already Albert Pujols has over 725,000 votes. I will post updated votes when they are scheduled... Schedule For Voting Announcements Wednesday, May 31 AL Balloting Release #1 Monday, June 5 NL Balloting Release #2 Tuesday, June 6 AL Balloting Release #2 Monday, June 12 NL Balloting Release #3 Tuesday, June 13 AL Balloting Release #3 Monday, June 19 NL Balloting Release #4 Tuesday, June 20 AL Balloting Release #4 Monday, June 26 NL Balloting Release #5 Tuesday, June 27 AL Balloting Release #5 Sunday, July 2 NL/AL Starters & Reserves Announced NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE May 30, 2006 First Base 1. Albert Pujols, Cardinals 726,854 2. Carlos Delgado, Mets 220,484 3. Lance Berkman, Astros 174,278 4. Derrek Lee, Cubs 131,359 5. Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers 129,034 Second Base 1. Craig Biggio, Astros 303,616 2. Chase Utley, Phillies 286,247 3. Marcus Giles, Braves 153,988 4. Todd Walker, Cubs 150,322 5. Jeff Kent, Dodgers 140,691 Third Base 1. Scott Rolen, Cardinals 340,733 2. David Wright, Mets 292,335 3. Morgan Ensberg, Astros 198,930 4. Chipper Jones, Braves 184,331 5. Aramis Ramirez, Cubs 142,404 Shortstop 1. David Eckstein, Cardinals 284,547 2. Edgar Renteria, Braves 236,673 3. Jose Reyes, Mets 221,335 4. Jimmy Rollins, Phillies 206,780 5. Omar Vizquel, Giants 146,904 Catcher 1. Paul Lo Duca, Mets 273,059 2. Mike Piazza, Padres 264,787 3. Yadier Molina, Cardinals 256,270 4. Brad Ausmus, Astros 186,933 5. Michael Barrett, Cubs 182,309 Outfield 1. Andruw Jones, Braves 420,462 2. Carlos Beltran, Mets 341,769 3. Jim Edmonds, Cardinals 334,027 4. Ken Griffey, Jr., Reds 326,592 5. Alfonso Soriano, Nationals 273,373 6. Bobby Abreu, Phillies 244,212 7. Carlos Lee, Brewers 224,829 8. Barry Bonds, Giants 210,146 9. Adam Dunn, Reds 180,379 10. Aaron Rowand, Phillies 162,741 11. Xavier Nady, Mets 142,278 12. Juan Encarnacion, Cardinals 137,439 13. Jeff Francoeur, Braves 136,478 14. So Taguchi, Cardinals 135,178 15. Juan Pierre, Cubs 134,527 AMERICAN LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE May 31, 2006 First Base 1. David Ortiz, Red Sox 451,431 2. Jason Giambi, Yankees 321,653 3. Paul Konerko, White Sox 206,472 4. Travis Hafner, Indians 154,878 5. Chris Shelton, Tigers 153,197 Second Base 1. Robinson Cano, Yankees 289,394 2. Mark Loretta, Red Sox 257,125 3. Tadahito Iguchi, White Sox 246,838 4. Brian Roberts, Orioles 130,702 5. Placido Polanco, Tigers 129,596 Third Base 1. Alex Rodriguez, Yankees 524,153 2. Mike Lowell, Red Sox 224,611 3. Joe Crede, White Sox 171,954 4. Eric Chavez, Athletics 167,020 5. Troy Glaus, Blue Jays 145,243 Shortstop 1. Derek Jeter, Yankees 537,218 2. Miguel Tejada, Orioles 370,078 3. Michael Young, Rangers 142,254 4. Alex Gonzalez, Red Sox 130,616 5. Juan Uribe, White Sox 121,304 Catcher 1. Jason Varitek, Red Sox 335,417 2. Ivan Rodriguez, Tigers 277,034 3. Jorge Posada, Yankees 241,736 4. Victor Martinez, Indians 196,987 5. A.J. Pierzynski, White Sox 180,562 Outfield 1. Manny Ramirez, Red Sox 516,658 2. Vladimir Guerrero, Angels 514,013 3. Johnny Damon, Yankees 393,643 4. Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners 279,843 5. Gary Sheffield, Yankees 275,688 6. Vernon Wells, Blue Jays 242,211 7. Hideki Matsui, Yankees 231,777 8. Scott Podsednik, White Sox 195,402 9. Coco Crisp, Red Sox 189,680 10. Jermaine Dye, White Sox 183,160 11. Trot Nixon, Red Sox 177,745 12. Torii Hunter, Twins 169,937 13. Grady Sizemore, Indians 137,716 14. Jonny Gomes, Devil Rays 132,264 15. Kevin Mench, Rangers 131,779 __________________ I'd like to see things from your perspective, but I can't get my head that far up my ass. Last edited by uhcougars2006; 06-1-2006 at 02:35 PM..

06-1-2006, 02:46 PM	#2
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Ah yes, this. I think I've already mocked these standing to death so far over at GameFAQs. AL: 1B: Can't go wrong with Ortiz, I guess, but the fact that Jim Thome isn't even in the top 5 is pathetic. 2B: Cano? LAFFO. I would put Joze Lopez, Luis Castillo, Tadahito Iguchi and Mark Grudzielanek all in front of him. Maybe even Mark Loretta but I suspect there's some bias sneaking in there. This selection alone is a demonstration of why fans shouldn't be allowed to vote. SS: Jeter or Tejada works. As long as one of them starts this can't really be a disappointment. Gonzalez and Uribe are lol though. Where's Carlos Guillen? Where's Orlando Cabrera? Hell, even Yuniesky Betancourt would be better suited for the Top 5. 3B: Demonstration #2 of why the fans shouldn't get to vote. A-Rod, yeah fine, whatever. Why the hell is Troy Glaus so low? He's blowing every other AL 3B away in pretty much every offensive category and he's 2 spots back of Joe Crede? I think I'm going to be sick. C: Even as a Red Sox fan I don't agree that Varitek deserves it so far. Maybe if he picks it up, but right now of those 5 I would give the nod to Ivan or Posada. Where the hell is Joe Mauer though? He deserves it more than any of those guys. OF: I would complain about Alex Rios but the ballots were made at the beginning of the season, so oops. Still, Damon needs to go and Wells needs to start. Matsui, Crisp and Nixon are all laughable choices. NL 1B: Pujols durhurhur 2B: I think Utley will overtake Biggio given enough time so I'm not too worried here. SS: Eh, I want to see Jose Reyes start but his average isn't great and I have a hard time arguing against the league leader in hits. Drop Jimmy Rollins and throw Hanley Ramirez into the mix. 3B: Fail. Where's Miguel Cabrera? Get Ramirez the hell out of there. I would also take Wright or Ensberg in front of Rolen. C: No Brian McCann? Ugh. Paul LoDuca isn't even my second selection but at least he's better than every-other-day Piazza. Barrett should be higher. OF: Why is Alfonso Soriano fifth? Why is Carlos Lee seventh? Why are Matt Holliday and Brad Hawpe completely absent? And why is Jim Edmonds third? Are you kidding me? Get rid of Bonds, Nady, Encarnacion, Francouer, Taguchi and Pierre while we're reshuffling this deck. The only reason the starting OF shouldn't be Soriano/Lee/Holliday is because they can't all play left field, so I guess Beltran or Jones is necessary for some semblance of defense. Conclusion: Fans are idiots. Give the selection power to the managers or baseball administration. PS: lol comic sans __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds. Last edited by Kilgamayan; 06-1-2006 at 03:03 PM..

06-1-2006, 03:10 PM	#3
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread I am Tass, and I approve Kilga's post. __________________ RIP

06-1-2006, 03:33 PM	#5
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 3,910	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread My mock.. It's pretty close to Kilga's, except for the NL outfield C: Varitek - He's having a pretty good year in a year where catchers really aren't making much of a splash. 1B: Ortiz - A hell of a power hitter, probably the AL hitter who I would least want to face with the bases loaded 2B: Castillo - This is very close between him and Lopez, but I just felt Castillo's made a bigger impact. Cano is good but he's inconsistant and not worthy of the All-Star game this year SS: Tejada - Tejada is better than Jeter, not by much though 3B: Rodriguez: He's an unbelievable player, probably the superstar on a team ful of stars. I was suprised that Glaus was so low... he's very underrated, and the problem with fan voting is that they look at the big names (like Loretta) and don't look at who's having the better year. But hey, it's the fans game, it's their All-Stars, so w/e OF: Ramirez, Wells, Damon: All three are having great years, Ramirez especially. What is up with Matsui being so high? Do the Yankee fans get to vote twice? What is going on NL C: LoDuca - Why in the world does Molina have so many votes? He's not All-Star caliber just yet. LoDuca is having a decent year when again catchers aren't making too much of an impact 1B: Pujols: No-brainer here, but it's amazing how stacked the NL 1B are. It's really a shame for players like Delgado, Lee (even if he is injured), and Berkman who all are good enough to start in the AL (or at least back up Ortiz) but 2 of them won't even make it. 2B: Utley: Easily the best 2nd basemen in the game, I think Biggio is winning because he gets a lot of sympathy votes for basically having his theme song be "Hit me baby one more time" SS: Eckstein: Great hitter, great fielder, great player overall. Not much of a hard choice here. 3B: Ensburg: Talk about underrated. Why the HELL is Rolan in first? Just another big name that fans assume is having a great year and vote fo him. OF: Beltran, Jones, Abreu - How anyone can pick Soriano is beyond me. He can hit, but his fielding is atrocious (he leads the league in errors last i checked). Anyone who's ever watched a Nationals game more than once will get a "please catch this" feeling whenever a ball is hit to left. Beltran and Jones are having pretty good years, Beltran's been hurt but he's bounced back pretty well, and Jones is having a pretty good year, except it's moreso defensively. Griffey in 4th? Get the hell out of here. __________________

06-6-2006, 06:29 AM	#12
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 3,910	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread wtf WHY IS GRIFFEY IN THE TOP 3 COME ON BASEBALL FANS I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS __________________

06-6-2006, 11:40 AM	#13
uhcougars2006 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southeast Texas Age: 37 Posts: 74	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread (6/6/06) Schedule For Voting Announcements Wednesday, May 31 AL Balloting Release #1 Monday, June 5 NL Balloting Release #2 Tuesday, June 6 AL Balloting Release #2 Monday, June 12 NL Balloting Release #3 Tuesday, June 13 AL Balloting Release #3 Monday, June 19 NL Balloting Release #4 Tuesday, June 20 AL Balloting Release #4 Monday, June 26 NL Balloting Release #5 Tuesday, June 27 AL Balloting Release #5 Sunday, July 2 NL/AL Starters & Reserves Announced NATIONAL LEAGUE ALL-STAR BALLOTING UPDATE May 30, 2006 First Base 1. Albert Pujols, Cardinals 726,854 2. Carlos Delgado, Mets 220,484 3. Lance Berkman, Astros 174,278 4. Derrek Lee, Cubs 131,359 5. Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers 129,034 Second Base 1. Craig Biggio, Astros 303,616 2. Chase Utley, Phillies 286,247 3. Marcus Giles, Braves 153,988 4. Todd Walker, Cubs 150,322 5. Jeff Kent, Dodgers 140,691 Third Base 1. Scott Rolen, Cardinals 340,733 2. David Wright, Mets 292,335 3. Morgan Ensberg, Astros 198,930 4. Chipper Jones, Braves 184,331 5. Aramis Ramirez, Cubs 142,404 Shortstop 1. David Eckstein, Cardinals 284,547 2. Edgar Renteria, Braves 236,673 3. Jose Reyes, Mets 221,335 4. Jimmy Rollins, Phillies 206,780 5. Omar Vizquel, Giants 146,904 Catcher 1. Paul Lo Duca, Mets 273,059 2. Mike Piazza, Padres 264,787 3. Yadier Molina, Cardinals 256,270 4. Brad Ausmus, Astros 186,933 5. Michael Barrett, Cubs 182,309 Outfield 1. Andruw Jones, Braves 420,462 2. Carlos Beltran, Mets 341,769 3. Jim Edmonds, Cardinals 334,027 4. Ken Griffey, Jr., Reds 326,592 5. Alfonso Soriano, Nationals 273,373 6. Bobby Abreu, Phillies 244,212 7. Carlos Lee, Brewers 224,829 8. Barry Bonds, Giants 210,146 9. Adam Dunn, Reds 180,379 10. Aaron Rowand, Phillies 162,741 11. Xavier Nady, Mets 142,278 12. Juan Encarnacion, Cardinals 137,439 13. Jeff Francoeur, Braves 136,478 14. So Taguchi, Cardinals 135,178 15. Juan Pierre, Cubs 134,527 __________________ I'd like to see things from your perspective, but I can't get my head that far up my ass.

06-6-2006, 11:54 AM	#14
ducky285 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cicero, IL Age: 41 Posts: 1,388	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Pujols probably won't be able to play. He got himself hurt. Where the hell is Jim Thome? Don't they have a ****ing DH category? __________________ Quack quack quack

06-6-2006, 01:40 PM	#16
esupin FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alphabet City, Manhattan Age: 37 Posts: 1,756	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Go Nomar rolf. He's actually been on a tear ever since he came back from an injury. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/esupin

06-6-2006, 02:45 PM	#17
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	Re: Official 2006 MLB All-Star Game Thread Also I guess I can knock Buehrle off the All-Star list. >_> __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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