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Old 09-6-2005, 01:46 AM   #1
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Default I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

Alright, Im haveing this problem with bandwidth distribution. Im running two computers off of one cable modem and I want them to both receive the same amount of bandwidth so that neither of them is bogging down the other one by doing too much stuff at once.

The main reason for me wanting to do this is because im running wireless internet to my room and my step dad is running a direct connect (ethernet cord from the router to his computer). Im only getting about 35-55% signal strength in my room, so because of this when he goes to play his party poker or starts downloading his porn, I get shafted and start laggin real bad in City of Heros. Im already lossing speed on the signal problem, I don't need to lose more through this either.

I have looked around and came up with nothing. I don't know how to write code in any language and I can't accomplish this simply by changing some settings in my router.

I need something that will split the bandwidth evenly, down and up stream. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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-The router is located in the computer room. The computer room is located on the first floor, in the north/western most part of the house.
-My computer is located in my room. My room is located on the second floor, in the south/eastern most part of the house.
-There is no hope for hooking my computer up to the internet through a direct connection to the router.
-Im using a Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter(32-bit PCI WG311 v2)
-The router is a linksys something-G. With High Gain antennas(normal antennas were about 3 inches long, I replaced them with something about 6 inches long)

I don't know if any of that will help, but I would love anyone who tried to help.
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Old 09-6-2005, 01:51 AM   #2
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Default RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

87X HAS MADE HIS OBLIGATORY RETURN OUT OF NOWHERE TO ASK FOR COMPUTER HELP
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Old 09-6-2005, 05:27 AM   #3
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slightly off topic there.
Anyways, im not the biggest nerd, but my bf is a pretty big one so i learn a lil off him. Im not sure if u can get switches with wireless capabilities but either a switch or a hub (im not sure witch one makes an even distribution) might be something worth looking into. Try going to your local computer store and asking them^^
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Old 09-6-2005, 05:32 AM   #4
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Default RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

Once Anti gets a chance to see this, the problem will be solved.

Personally, wireless stuff... I am clueless about. I hate working with Wireless stuff. And I'm having enough trouble with my own wired connection as it is.

So, I cast level 100 summoning of Anticrombie (or liek ne1 els cn do it 2 u no)

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Old 09-6-2005, 05:34 AM   #5
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Sorry Trey babe, Your girlfriends an idiot..

And anyways, I thought I was buying you your own cable modem for your room?
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Old 09-6-2005, 06:09 AM   #6
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Sorry, bud. In my old house, I was forced to use wireless internet for two years, and during that time, I tried every single method of bandwidth redistribution I could think of. Alas, Wireless does not like to do that. What would end up happening was that anytime I did one thing (download, update, whatever), everything else would transfer to 802.11b mode, which has a max d/l of 11MB/s.

I have two suggestions. First off, you might want to try a wireless repeater. You'd get a better signal, they're about $60, make sure you get an 802.11b/g router that runs at 54MB/s.

Next, get rid of your wireless phones. Unless you bought your wireless phones in the last six months or so, chances are they run on a 2.4Ghz frequency- same as your router. Those can severly fuck up your signal to the point where it attenuates completely.

Third, get wired. Totally serious. Love to help you, but believe me- if there was a better way to do it, I'd have found it by now. Wireless flat out sucks.
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Old 09-6-2005, 07:23 AM   #7
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Default RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

Well I appreciate the help and I already looked into a repeater. The thing is that wired a connection isn't an option. Well, until I get my own cable modem in my room. Other than that, its got to be wireless. Also, your right about the phone, 2.4ghz. I'll try to get that changed first, considering it would be my parents paying for that and not myself.

But as I was stating before, limiting bandwidth could help to the problem right? I mean if he isn't sucking his half and the half I don't get to use because of shitty signal strength it wouldn't be that big of a problem. Right?
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Old 09-6-2005, 07:37 AM   #8
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Default Re: RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

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everything else would transfer to 802.11b mode, which has a max d/l of 11MB/s.
Comcast just upped their DL rate to 4mb/s, and that is going to be your downloading bottleneck even if your router is capable of 1000000Gb/s down.

I've been pretty busy lately, but I'll look into ways of programmatically making the router evenly distribute the bandwidth.

I know I could just make a program, that you would install on you dad's computer, that will artificially stop him from using more than 2mb/s of bandwidth, or whatever, when you are on your computer.
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Old 09-6-2005, 08:29 AM   #9
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I think I know the solution here... I have been through multiple wireless routers from linksys to netgear and beyond. But there is a wireless router that is really built for gamers and it comes from a name that you would not expect.... D-Link.. This is by far the best wireless consumer router I have seen. It does come at a cost though.. $150. It actually has this gamerfuel technology so that you can reserve bandwidth for certain ports. Hell, it even has 1gbit ethernet ports.. This is really one amazing router with great support. It has won numerous awards and is about the slickest looking thing I have ever seen. I own one now and would never go back to netgear or linksys. I would NOT however buy another dlink product if you cannot afford the gamerfuel one. Check out this link:

http://games.dlink.com/products/?pid=370

802.11g
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Fit for the True Online Gamer

Introducing GameFuelâ„¢ Priority Technology designed to provide the uninterrupted and latency-free gaming experience serious online gamers expect
Customized with game-centric features boasting maximum flexibility for configuration and performance
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(lots more info on the site)

This router does everything it says and it has won numerous awards from gamespot, xbox magazine, pc gamer etc..etc.

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Old 09-6-2005, 08:39 AM   #10
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Old 09-6-2005, 08:57 AM   #11
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With that being said though, you have to be willing to sit down, read the manual and really set it up correctly for the ports that your game uses.

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Old 09-6-2005, 09:19 AM   #12
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Default RE: Re: RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

Attn: 87x.

You won't fix your problem until you get wired. Saying it's not an option, isn't an option. Go spend 20 bucks and get a long enough ethernet cable to run to your room, problem solved.

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Old 09-6-2005, 09:23 AM   #13
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He does have a point.. Your signal is most likely the root of your problem and you need to find some sort of solution to this. If you have cable TV in your room, it is time to hook up the cablemodem to your room and then let the computer downstairs feed off of the router with a wireless card.

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Old 09-6-2005, 11:30 AM   #14
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Default RE: Re: RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

Well.. That is a possibility, moving the actual cable modem itself, but im really posistive that my step dad won't go for that.

LD, you don't understand, I would have to get a 50-100ft ethernet cord for that to work, then get on a ladder, climb up three floors, just to mount it around my house so it doesn't hand. Not only that, but I would have to run it the LONG way around my house. Here let my show you people a diagram of what im going through.





I can't run the cable on the front of the house because of the parents. So it has to go all the way around the back. Or maybe out the side and up the roof. But either way there is no simple path.

Synth, don't you think that I would still have singal strength problems if I got that? I mean, it is sweet and all, but, does it have a stronger signal projection than say the linksys router I already have. If not, then its pointless until I can get "wired" as you people say.

Also, what would be better, a repeater or an access point, or just something in the middle to relay both signals. I know there is something out there that isn't a repeater, but I guess basically does the same thing. I think its called a gateway or a bridge or something.
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Old 09-6-2005, 11:50 AM   #15
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200 foot ethernet cable...... *drools*
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I networked my entire house through the walls, through the attics, you see no network cables laying on the floor, yet I've run cables to 3 rooms upstairs, 1 downstairs, and 1 in the basement, all from my room.

It's possible, it just requires effort.
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Old 09-6-2005, 12:11 PM   #17
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Well im not really trying to do some Bob Villa Home improvement type shit. The computer room has a drop ceiling, and a hole in the wall from something else before it, so thats easy enough to get passed, the hard part would be that I have no attic, and if you could see the way my walls are shaped and positioned, you would see its a much harder task than average. The only way plausable to "get me wired" would be an around-the-house connection.

*UPDATE*
I rearranged my room so that my computer was on the same side of the room as the door. Placed the computer ontop of the computer desk with the pci card facing the door. As of now, with the door open, I get about a 20-25% signal boost. From 35-45 to 68-(haven't had it like this long enough for a low-max calculation). Hopefully this will help out. I feel better knowing im in the 65+ range. I might get 2 10 foot ethernet cords and move the router to somewhere in the living room, on the other side of the wall seperating the comp. from liv. room. Then I would only have interferrance from 2 corners, instead of 6 walls.
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Old 09-6-2005, 12:17 PM   #18
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Default RE: Re: RE: I call upon the Nerds of FFR.

This may seem a little simplistic, but most Wireless cards, you can set to opimize for distance, It slows it down some, but your loss is much less, so you can keep a steady signal.

I don't know, you may have already done this, but I was just making sure it wasn't overlooked.
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Old 09-6-2005, 12:27 PM   #19
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Yes, I went into the Netgear configuration thing and checked on that, I can't tell what this jable is about though.

In the advanced settings it has these ticked.
Power Saving - OFF (other options- normal or maximum)
2.4ghz Preamble - AUTO (other options- Long or Short)
Transmit Power - 100% (other options- 50% or 25% or 12.5% or Lowest)

In the Wireless Mode section-
54mb 802.11g (2.4 ghz)
11mb 802.11g (2.4 ghz)
Both are ticked

Fragmentation Threshold - 2432(highest it will go) (other options- 256-2432)
RTS/CTS Threshold - 2432(highest it will go) (other options- 256-2432)

I don't know what any of this means, or if any of this should be changed.
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Old 09-6-2005, 12:28 PM   #20
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Your house is wired one way or another. Find out where (and how) the cables are wired for other things in the house and run your cable along those.

If that fails, MAKE a new wire setup. I know for my house, we obviously didn't want these gaudy wires traveling up stairs or out windows. We have the modem and router in a back room, but taking it through the ceiling of that room takes it to my parents' room, which is conveniently right next to mine at the moment. Make a small hole between the walls at the bottom corner and you have a connection.

Try to think of a wired connection that you (or you and your dad) can setup on some long weekend with nothing better to do.

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