Timing system.

Arch0wl · 08-31-2003, 02:21 PM

I noticed on beethoven virus, I was getting goods when I should've been getting perfects. Either that or it converted wrong which could be a problem for a lot of songs.

makaveli121212 · 08-31-2003, 04:08 PM

ive found that to be a problem too, actually a couple times in virus, i'd get an average (because i suck) it would bump up my combo by one, and then say miss for that same arrow, what the hell is that

**aperson** · 08-31-2003, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makaveli121212

ive found that to be a problem too, actually a couple times in virus, i'd get an average (because i suck) it would bump up my combo by one, and then say miss for that same arrow, what the hell is that

I've had that problem on BV too. It's really apparent at the end of afronova, The last double to end the song always gives you a miss even if you hit it dead on.

IsUkAtDdR · 08-31-2003, 04:53 PM

okay i dont know but like i was just messing around in the beggining of the song just pushing random arrows and like it said perfect avarage and good some times and i dont kno ::shrugs:: i dont know what the problem is with that but yah i jus pushed some random arrows and like it gave me points for it :/ i dunno lol

hkhandrika · 09-1-2003, 01:11 AM

They already said they tweaked the FFR convertor, so I expect that they will redo the stepfiles for all the songs and get them corrected.

BlankZero · 09-1-2003, 02:39 AM

ive noticed when your really getting a nice pointage in levels,then game tends to freeze up or start lagging...like last night...i was playing hip hop lvl 5 and i was doing amazing on it the way i was going i would be at least like 4-5 place then near the end..it started lagging and i was getting goods,turned out at the end i moved up 2 spots from my previous spot...

theevilisback · 09-9-2003, 02:58 PM

I've been getting the same problems in BV. If you hit it perfect you'll get goods or averages over perfects. Just something that has to get fixed up to make the game AMAZING'er then it is

**Reach** · 09-9-2003, 03:21 PM

Well...whatever they did, it seems easier to get perfect hits now. But, i still find myself getting mostly good's, which should be perfects.

**Synthlight** · 09-9-2003, 03:44 PM

If you have any problems where FFR freaks out on you, make sure you get the Flash 7 Beta player.. besides being much better than the current player it will also run FFR 15-40% faster on the same machine

http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...r/public_beta/

It is not any easier to get perfects or whatever.. that type of timing has not changed at all. You also have to realize that getting a perfect on FFR is not the same thing as getting a perfect in stepmania.. You basically have a slice of time (1/30th of a second) to hit the key and get a perfect.

Btw... can anyone show me a repeatable error in BV and let me know exactly what # arrow is giving you problems? I need to know an exact number before I can even begin to troubleshoot.

Cheers,

Synthlight

**Reach** · 09-9-2003, 04:27 PM

Something is different o_O me and spazzbite were going around wrecking our scores like 1st try.

ill try out the new player too....thx

Arch0wl · 09-11-2003, 02:05 PM

Synth, I'm aware. Reach and I can get nearly all marvelous on songs, and marvelous is a 22nd of a second or so. It's not that perfect is harder to get. We know this. Marvelous is harder to get than perfect and on SM we still can get mostly marvelous.

Infact here's the exact timing ratings:

JudgeWindowBooSeconds=0.180000
JudgeWindowGoodSeconds=0.135000
JudgeWindowGreatSeconds=0.090000
JudgeWindowMarvelousSeconds=0.022500
JudgeWindowOKSeconds=0.250000
JudgeWindowPerfectSeconds=0.045000
JudgeWindowScale=1.000000

SotN · 09-11-2003, 06:46 PM

Arch, you and I both know that DDR and FFR handle timings differently.

DDR timing = time before the step, and some fraction after the step.

FFR timing = time total before and after the step

thus: FFR perfect = .033s total and DDR marvelous= ~.038-.040s total. I'm suprised you havent noticed this before, with your godly timing and all.

P.S. I wasnt being sarcastic, but it came out that way. Yay.

Arch0wl · 09-12-2003, 11:26 PM

It doesn't matter. I don't visually time it. I start on the first note then go from there by how the songs rhythm is going. Incase you don't know I play IIDX and the timing on that is a HELL OF A LOT STRICTER than FFR and DDR and SM and DWI

And yet I can do this on IIDX (the great at the top is like marvelous on ddr but alot stricter)

mr_hat · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

hehe thats why it was so hard...

SotN · 09-13-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch0wl

It doesn't matter. I don't visually time it. I start on the first note then go from there by how the songs rhythm is going. Incase you don't know I play IIDX and the timing on that is a HELL OF A LOT STRICTER than FFR and DDR and SM and DWI

You didnt quite say it, but you ment it. My last post was complete bullshit, I made everything up to see what you actually know about how timings are calculated. Archy-kun for california governer.

I for one, want to know how FFR handles timings. is it based on where the arrow is on the screen?

Arch0wl · 09-17-2003, 10:50 AM

Ooookay

SotN · 09-17-2003, 06:51 PM

^___^

Arch0wl · 09-18-2003, 11:55 PM

Anyways, I would like synth to take consideration into redoing the timing system on FFR.

Nima · 09-19-2003, 12:39 AM

Ok... I was getting most of the arrows in minute waltz and they are still mostly considered misses? WTF?

plasmix · 09-19-2003, 10:06 PM

You THINK you are. There's a difference.

08-31-2003, 02:21 PM	#1
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	Timing system. I noticed on beethoven virus, I was getting goods when I should've been getting perfects. Either that or it converted wrong which could be a problem for a lot of songs.

09-9-2003, 03:21 PM	#8
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 7,471	Well...whatever they did, it seems easier to get perfect hits now. But, i still find myself getting mostly good's, which should be perfects. __________________

09-9-2003, 04:27 PM	#10
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 7,471	Something is different o_O me and spazzbite were going around wrecking our scores like 1st try. ill try out the new player too....thx __________________

09-11-2003, 06:46 PM	#12
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	Arch, you and I both know that DDR and FFR handle timings differently. DDR timing = time before the step, and some fraction after the step. FFR timing = time total before and after the step thus: FFR perfect = .033s total and DDR marvelous= ~.038-.040s total. I'm suprised you havent noticed this before, with your godly timing and all. P.S. I wasnt being sarcastic, but it came out that way. Yay. __________________ 209

09-12-2003, 11:57 PM	#14
mr_hat FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	hehe thats why it was so hard... __________________ <image>http://groups.msn.com/1rstpersongrou...toID=1</image> damn damn damn my sig why the fuck won\'t it work?

08-31-2003, 04:53 PM	#4
IsUkAtDdR FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 92	okay i dont know but like i was just messing around in the beggining of the song just pushing random arrows and like it said perfect avarage and good some times and i dont kno ::shrugs:: i dont know what the problem is with that but yah i jus pushed some random arrows and like it gave me points for it :/ i dunno lol

09-1-2003, 01:11 AM	#5
hkhandrika FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 52	They already said they tweaked the FFR convertor, so I expect that they will redo the stepfiles for all the songs and get them corrected.

09-1-2003, 02:39 AM	#6
BlankZero FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Age: 38 Posts: 248	ive noticed when your really getting a nice pointage in levels,then game tends to freeze up or start lagging...like last night...i was playing hip hop lvl 5 and i was doing amazing on it the way i was going i would be at least like 4-5 place then near the end..it started lagging and i was getting goods,turned out at the end i moved up 2 spots from my previous spot...

09-9-2003, 02:58 PM	#7
theevilisback FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1	I've been getting the same problems in BV. If you hit it perfect you'll get goods or averages over perfects. Just something that has to get fixed up to make the game AMAZING'er then it is

09-9-2003, 03:44 PM	#9
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 52 Posts: 3,057	If you have any problems where FFR freaks out on you, make sure you get the Flash 7 Beta player.. besides being much better than the current player it will also run FFR 15-40% faster on the same machine http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...r/public_beta/ It is not any easier to get perfects or whatever.. that type of timing has not changed at all. You also have to realize that getting a perfect on FFR is not the same thing as getting a perfect in stepmania.. You basically have a slice of time (1/30th of a second) to hit the key and get a perfect. Btw... can anyone show me a repeatable error in BV and let me know exactly what # arrow is giving you problems? I need to know an exact number before I can even begin to troubleshoot. Cheers, Synthlight

09-11-2003, 02:05 PM	#11
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	Synth, I'm aware. Reach and I can get nearly all marvelous on songs, and marvelous is a 22nd of a second or so. It's not that perfect is harder to get. We know this. Marvelous is harder to get than perfect and on SM we still can get mostly marvelous. Infact here's the exact timing ratings: JudgeWindowBooSeconds=0.180000 JudgeWindowGoodSeconds=0.135000 JudgeWindowGreatSeconds=0.090000 JudgeWindowMarvelousSeconds=0.022500 JudgeWindowOKSeconds=0.250000 JudgeWindowPerfectSeconds=0.045000 JudgeWindowScale=1.000000

09-12-2003, 11:26 PM	#13
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	It doesn't matter. I don't visually time it. I start on the first note then go from there by how the songs rhythm is going. Incase you don't know I play IIDX and the timing on that is a HELL OF A LOT STRICTER than FFR and DDR and SM and DWI And yet I can do this on IIDX (the great at the top is like marvelous on ddr but alot stricter)

09-17-2003, 10:50 AM	#16
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	Ooookay

09-17-2003, 06:51 PM	#17
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	^___^ __________________ 209

09-18-2003, 11:55 PM	#18
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	Anyways, I would like synth to take consideration into redoing the timing system on FFR.

09-19-2003, 12:39 AM	#19
Nima FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,526	Ok... I was getting most of the arrows in minute waltz and they are still mostly considered misses? WTF? __________________ DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

09-19-2003, 10:06 PM	#20
plasmix FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: TX Posts: 3,639	You THINK you are. There's a difference.

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