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Old 05-7-2005, 10:46 AM   #1
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Now this isn't a religious debate, so untwist your panties.. .although i'l lbe starting one of those soonish. This is just something i've been discussing with a friend of mine who is a Religious Studies major for a while now.

what is religion? What does it mean to be a religion? what is it defined as?
He argues that people that dress upin the same garb every day to go to every red sox game and center their lives around it should be considered followers of that religion, whereas I feel that there needs to be some form of interaction or at least idea of a spiritual almighty, but then the more i thought of it, there are quite a few religions that have no mention of any supreme being (Janism, Buddhism to a lesser extent). So, what does it mean to be a religion?
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Old 05-7-2005, 01:12 PM   #2
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1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
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Old 05-7-2005, 01:53 PM   #3
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*Sigh* maybe people that have brains will read this at some point?
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This stupid kid in my class wants to start a religion with him as king. See how many things you can find wrong with that. It's kinda fun.
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In my opinion, religion is defined as a major belief in something, with many others either following or believing in it. Whether it be God, the Yankees, the Jets, Pasta. If you consider it a big part of your life, and many others do, then it should be considered as one.
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I think of Religion as spiritual guidance to your life, and no that doesnt include Yankess or Red Sox.
Those stupid things arent Religion. Those are dumb reasons for everyone to think that they are running something, because they are scared of those who have rule over them, and they dont think it is fair, so they come up with that dumb stuff to make themselves seem more important.



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This stupid kid in my class wants to start a religion with him as king. See how many things you can find wrong with that. It's kinda fun.
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So what makes something like catholicism or christianity any better? At least what Red Sox fans worship is scientifically proven to exist, whereas what you're considering "religion" is just a blind following in a God that may not even be there.
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Old 05-8-2005, 08:32 AM   #8
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Exactly Eric.

The world would be so much better off if we all worshipped the same thing, such as a pair of pants for example. No one on earth could disagree that pants exist.
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Blahblah I think that religion is different for every person because everyone has their very own views on things. For example most of everyone has their own views on things such as abortion, the legalization of drugs and such.

so i think that religion is the views of different people put together in sections.
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Of course, a religion with a person that all follow as they would a king (usually living) is considered a Cult.
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Old 05-8-2005, 09:46 PM   #11
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So what makes something like catholicism or christianity any better? At least what Red Sox fans worship is scientifically proven to exist, whereas what you're considering "religion" is just a blind following in a God that may not even be there.
well at least worshipping a god like the christian god will do good unlike something that would cause riots.
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Ok, so it was just an example. We could just as easily worship cows or ducks.

How does worshiping a being whose existance cannot be proved any better than worshiping a duck? I mean, I like ducks. They're cool and they go "quack".

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Ok, so it was just an example. We could just as easily worship cows or ducks.

How does worshiping a being whose existance cannot be proved any better than worshiping a duck? I mean, I like ducks. They're cool and they go "quack".

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Old 05-9-2005, 12:48 AM   #14
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So what makes something like catholicism or christianity any better? At least what Red Sox fans worship is scientifically proven to exist, whereas what you're considering "religion" is just a blind following in a God that may not even be there.
well at least worshipping a god like the christian god will do good unlike something that would cause riots.

This is why I have trouble believeing that catholics are true christians. Look at Ireland, Catholics versus Protestants, They are murdering each other back and forth, with no end in sight. Look at world war 2. Catholic priests were blessing the weapons of the Germans. They also had Swasticas draped over the alters. Another part of the catholic church was blessing the other side.

I am not saying that a catholic will not be a good person. He still has a bible, and if he applies the principles that are in that book to his life, then he will be a "good" person.
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Guys, Layla-Day pinned it:

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I think of Religion as spiritual guidance to your life, and no that doesnt include Yankess or Red Sox.
And Cen, it was even mentioned in the "Ask the priest" section of our bulletin today that priests will act on their own measure to support what they believe to be right (in the case of the letter, it was about supporting Conservatism and politics in homilies).

And, of course, everyone had complete freedom in Nazi Germany, right? C'mon, anyone not following the Nazi way would surely have been killed then. That's not to say, of course, that there weren't Catholics with their views askew (you've surely heard of some of them today) but those are found in any sect.

You're making a generalization of a group on the actions of a few. Understanding the faith a little more would show you that we are true Bible-following Christians.

Oh, and the thread is over now that Layla-Day hit the nail on the head.

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Jehovah's Witnesses are world wide. We are not part of any country. When WWII came around, Hitler put Witnesses in in concentration camps also, because of their refusal to fight, and their refusal to salute Hitler. These weren't people of Jewish decent. I am talking about people of all Races, even Germans.

They were the only group who wasn't taken by default. Jews didn't have a choice, Jehovah's Witnesses did have a choice. They just had to sign a paper and salute Hitler, and they were to go free. They refused, and many of them died for that belief.

Just as earlier, Jews had the wear the star of david, Jehovah's witnesses had to wear a purple triangle.

Just a little history for thought.
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Wow canright i never knew that. They ACTUALLY DONT TEACH THAT IN HEBREW SCHOOL! *note that place is about as fun as taking a bath in dog shit* (2nd note i have never actually taken a dog shit bath so i guess i dont know how bad that is)
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I believe that religion is something that people are devoted to believeing in... Something that people have faith in... Whether it being a Mormon or a Catholic and believing in J.C. & God, or being a Buddhist and believing in multiple higher beings, but not only that, but on a more spiritual plane with yourself... This can also touch on the idea of sports and that people can be so devoute to a team and believe in their team so much, that it is better than anyone elses' team...

But yeah... I believe that religion is just something for someone to believe or have faith in... What you have faith in is all up to you...
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Ok, so it was just an example. We could just as easily worship cows or ducks.

How does worshiping a being whose existance cannot be proved any better than worshiping a duck? I mean, I like ducks. They're cool and they go "quack".

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How is god everywhere? God is a personal opinion. If you choose to see him, you will. If I choose to see a giant, all powerful duck as being the reason to everything, I could.

And secondly, why would you become blind of science? If you want to become BLIND OF SCIENCE, stop existing. Every single aspect of everything relates back to science in some way or another.
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In the past, when times were poor, people used religion as an escape from reality. It caused them to believe if they were good, the gods would be pleased. They used it to explain the unexplainable back in times. They needed hope for a peaceful afterlife, since their lives were short, dirty and full of work all the time. Now it's similar. People expect too much out of this life, and when they dont get it they look towards the after life. How you worship doesnt matter. If i'm right, i dont know.
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