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Old 04-24-2005, 09:10 PM   #1
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Default my lil olde ideology

okay so as of some long time ago I don't remember when. I started thinking differently

Without other scientific reasearch I believe that this Ideology is my own.

There is no fact, there is only hope and history. This ideology specifically entails the "history repeats itself" deal.

1+1=2, take this for example, even though most math is not the best example for this ideology.

Having just read the above, it is now within your memory as what had happened: history.

Now, you have now to hope that 1+1 will equal two. How would you know it does until you do?

1+1=2

op see there we go, some more history.

This then generally starts to entail assuming a bunch of stuff.

since 1+1 has equaled 2 for the past 86,439,327,291 times it should hold true when I do it in two seconds

1+1=2

and its back into history.

Now I know there are a buncha people that will all be "omg wtf, gives upzors teh drugs n00blet", but taht's not what this thread is for.

This thread is for the stating of a different way to see things and is meant to gather your opinion about what you thnk about the way I think.

Which will become history and I'll have to hope that some time later from their posting they are still the same.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:24 PM   #2
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I think this way of thinking is pointless. The reason 1+1=2 is mostly because when you have 1 thing, and you add another of those same things, you get 2 of those things. It will always be like that, next time, the time after that, and any other time you want to test that problem. Maybe someday when all the laws of everything break down, then you might be right. But when all the laws of science break, your thinking won't matter anyways.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:33 PM   #3
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Default RE: my lil olde ideology

I can kind of see where you're coming from. This gets me thinking about how the number system came to be about. Back when people were first around our number 2 today could have been the number 5 back then. So 1+1=2 today could have been something completely different a long time ago such as 5+5=8

Another thing I've always wondered was do we all see the same color? Say someone is wearing a bright green shirt, does the person next to you see the same shade as you do? Or all we all comprised of different things that we see the same colors as different?
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:24 PM   #4
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Another thing I've always wondered was do we all see the same color? Say someone is wearing a bright green shirt, does the person next to you see the same shade as you do? Or all we all comprised of different things that we see the same colors as different?
I've been wondering that fora really long time! It gives me headaches to think about. I mean, when I look at the forum now, I see blue and white, but what if my blue looks like someone else's green. Is there any way to possibly answer a question like that even?
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:38 PM   #5
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Default RE: Re: RE: my lil olde ideology

Didn't Guido write up 2 pages that proves 1+1=2? I'd love to see that.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:29 PM   #6
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Default RE: Re: RE: my lil olde ideology

Ok... the specific number system is arbitrary. All that matters is that EVERYONE agrees that the system that is being used is correct. Should someone create a new langues or numeric system, they can have that, but no one else will understand it. They could teach others, and it could later become the standard and accepted system.

The fact that it becomes history as soon as its been said is a given. I don't understand how you consider this anything new or different or unique. It is just exactly what I said, a given. That is why people don't think about it, because its so obvious that it doesn't require thought. Beyond that, if you are trying to say anything more or different, your post was flat out terrible for the attempt to explain your thoughts. Very difficult to understand what you were trying to say.


As for the color thing, some people are color blind and can't see certain colors. It has to do with how your eyes pick up certain wavelengths of light. But, because the light is reflected off of, lets say, a shirt, at the same wavelength, people will view it as the same color because we're all seeing the same wavelength. I'd imagine that there are SLIGHT variances due to the strength of ones eyes, or some other factors that I'm not aware of, as I'm not an opthomologist, but generally it is almost the same. Simple Physics II for all you youngin's.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:46 PM   #7
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if 2 equals
1 thing and another 1 thing, which represents 1 each and only 1
and 1 equals
1 thing
then 1+1+2,
sorry for the short post, there's just nothing much to discuss.
And about the fact about history and hope, that doesn't work very well when you're talking about 1+1
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:44 PM   #8
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Default RE: Re: RE: my lil olde ideology

It's hard to state my thinking of thinking because the majority of people are fact thinkers

1+1=2 is fact

under my thinking you have to hope that 1+1=2 until you actually add 1 and 1 together to make 2, and then when it happens its history and you can only hope it will happen again

It's hard to explain. You just have to stop seeing fact. I've been told its redundant, but its quite fun to see no fact and only hope and history.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:05 PM   #9
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Math is too easy to agree with here.

English is not. When you write as much as I do, words start to look wrong. It bugs me to death. If you want to try it for yourself, do this.

1) Pick a word that most people mistakenly spell, or just any complicated word.
2) Write it 1,000 times. No copying or pasting. (Ok, 100.)
3) Watch as you contradict the spelling of the word after a while.

Also, I think someone proved that 1 = 2. However, there's a part in the equations where the math screws up.

Ah, here it is.

a = b
ab = b^2
-(ab) = -(b^2)
a^2-ab = a^2-b^2
a(a-b) = (a+b)(a-b)
a = a+b
a = 2a
1 = 2

Spot the error.

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:12 PM   #10
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Clothing fashion goes in a cycle too. Every 30-40 years, styles phase in and out. Long hair goes out and short hair comes in. Everything works in cycles, So it isn't that history will repeat itself like a single point. that would be a random, single point, and for that to happen in history would mean history was a chaotic hiccup of events repeating themselves.

I like to think of a Sine Wave. Let us change the idea of 1+1 to the idea of a peak on a Sine Wave. There is always a peak. That is our event. That wave is always changing. It moves up and down, but this is a more free Sine. It follows the basic form, but it can speed up or slow down, be a higher peak one time and a lower peak another, or have a faster movement to or away from this peak that is our event. That would mean that the even was happened a little more sudden, but there were still events leading up and going away from it, even if we didn't know about them.

Before that Sine Wave changes from rising to falling, there has to be a peak in some form or another. It is all about similar forms. The first event might be 1+1=2 , but the next time around, the event might be 2+5=7 , but it is still the same form.
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:30 PM   #11
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I appreciate the thought, tny, but that wasn't I.

And dcamid, are you ttying to prove some sort of point with this idea? What's the main idea of your original post? Sure, I understand what you're saying but I don't understand the significance.

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:33 PM   #12
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its the sharing of new ways of thinking
nothing more
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:37 PM   #13
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2+2=5
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:40 PM   #14
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NU UH 2+2=14

base 7
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:41 PM   #15
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NU UH 2+2=14

base 7
this is the reason I hesitate to prove things with math for there are som many ways to do it
and the confusino can run rampant
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:21 AM   #16
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In your first post you said there is no fact, only hope and history. Maybe a better example of this would be a labrat in a cage.

A rat is in a cage. There is a button set up in the cage. As soon as the rat presses the button, food is released from a door on the side of the cage. After eating, the rat tries this again, hoping for the same results. It isn't yet a fact that pressing the button will result in the same result, but the rat hopes that it does, based on the history of the first time it worked.

Maybe that is what you meant?
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:14 AM   #17
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THANK YOU!!!!!

The understanding has been recieved by one.

And I think I did my base problem thing wrong.

*recalculates* 7^0 = 1 7^1 = 7 7^2 = 49 2x7^1 + 2x7^1 = 28

I'm doing something wrong.

*damns his data comm class*
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What would you need to know base 7 numbers for a data comm class for? I'm just wondering because I don't know.
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binary is base two which got into discussion about binary and base number ect ect.
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Okay I think I understand what you are trying to get across. 1+1=2 is not a fact. You just hope it is. And since it was the first time, and history repeats itself, and 1+1 does equal two.

Squeek: That doesn't work becvause you divide by zero (jesus that too me way to long to find, and I tried it on some people in school todayand they yelled at me saying a cannot equal B)
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