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Old 04-13-2005, 12:53 PM   #1
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Default Will America Fall?

I've searched the forums for something like this and I didnt find anything on it so dont kill me if it has already been done.

I had my British Literature teacher ask me if I thought that America is an empire/dynasty and it it would fall like all past empires have.

I think that one day we will. It may not be in our lifetime but its most likely going to be a war, civil or world, or something is going to happen where we fall into another depression and we are going to be a third-world-country. So tell me what you think.

EDIT: And to let you know: Im not one of those people that hates America. I love living here so dont get me wrong about this question.
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:56 PM   #2
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Nothing lasts forever, and america is just another example. Yes, it is a strong "empire" but the value of our currnecy is depleteing and eventually there will be a stock market crash or w/e and we will have another "great depression" War may also come to us and that could a lot of nations.

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Yes, while America is strong and able to support other countries, eventually the same thing that happened to the Roman Empire will happen to America. Just for those that don't know, the Roman Empire collapsed from spreading itself too thin to keep under control while conquering neighboring countries.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:03 PM   #4
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It'll eventually fall. Hope I'm dead then, though. I don't want to die from hunger.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:07 PM   #5
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Default RE: Will America Fall?

Yes america will fall, but to who? I personally have no idea. You guys have any?
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:18 PM   #6
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Nothing lasts forever, and america is just another example. Yes, it is a strong "empire" but the value of our currnecy is depleteing and eventually there will be a stock market crash or w/e and we will have another "great depression" War may also come to us and that could a lot of nations.

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its pronounced "am-uur-ica". The whitehouse passed the bill this morning.

great depression? not unless china puts it's economy-bomb up... (one trillion...yes TRILLION american dollars american. Put that all up on the market at once and the currency will plummet and launch it into chaos) but extreme procautions have been taken over the thirties to stop over-inflation.

War? Maybe from N. Korea, i guess.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:27 PM   #7
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America will most certainly fall, but not in the way you'd think. Most empires (and according the the Conrad-Demarest model, America is an empire) fall due to a revolution (France) or to a series of internal and external causes (Rome). I believe that America will not fall but rather it will decline.

Economic forecasts predict China rising as a global superpower within the next century. That means they will dominate politically and economically over many other nations. Superior man-power and supplies could lead to the Chinese surpassing America economically and then take dominance as the new world superpower.

What is more likely than America's fall is increased globalization. National borders are nearly invisible lately, especially in the market. Trade between nations has gone above and beyond what many ever thought was possible. Improved communication, industrialization, and (for the most part) a new zeal in the prospect of capitalism should increase global production exponentially. I'm even more certain in this prediction than my other. China is more likely to begin this process sooner and become the predominant example, not necessarily dominant like in the other prediction.

In any case, nobody knows for sure. I'm absolutely sure, though, that it has nothing to do with the lie about our dollar losing value.

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EDIT: Due to government intervention, the likelihood of any kind of severe depression is zilch. The most we're probably going to get is a nasty recession, like the kind we pulled out of recently.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:37 PM   #8
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And I think the opposite, America will one day fall when it loses all its allies and is forcibly removed as a main player... one day the EU will just pose sanctions on USA and place a full embargo while OPEC does the same, etcetera... clearly this won't happen anytime soon, but that's how its going to go down most likely
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I've searched the forums for something like this and I didnt find anything on it so dont kill me if it has already been done.

I had my British Literature teacher ask me if I thought that America is an empire/dynasty and it it would fall like all past empires have.

I think that one day we will. It may not be in our lifetime but its most likely going to be a war, civil or world, or something is going to happen where we fall into another depression and we are going to be a third-world-country. So tell me what you think.

EDIT: And to let you know: Im not one of those people that hates America. I love living here so dont get me wrong about this question.
I'm very offended by this, why make a topic like this. Of course we will never fall, unless its at the hand of god. You also said that we might fall due to a civil war(and world but im talking about civil), we've made it through one civil, we can make it through the rest. Im not saying your an anti american so please dont get offended by what i said.
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:38 PM   #10
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Falcon, I don't understand why you would be offended by something like this. Eventually everything will come to an end. Just like the Earth my some day come to an end, however, that will be MANY MANY years from now but still, it will come to an end.

I, on the other hand, do think America will someday fall. It could be under the control of another country more powerful than us or some killer disease could come and wipe out a majority of us (very unlikely however).
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:57 PM   #12
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This is an example of both sides of the argument, yes its long, but hey its critical thinking.
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xanderman2064 [5:31 P.M.]: Falcon, right?
Skater1S4 [5:31 P.M.]: ya
xanderman2064 [5:31 P.M.]: It's Q.
Skater1S4 [5:31 P.M.]: o hi
xanderman2064 [5:31 P.M.]: What makes you even begin to think that we'll never fall?
Skater1S4 [5:32 P.M.]: we're just to strong of a country physically and mentally.
Skater1S4 [5:32 P.M.]: we value are country and its cause, its important to us, so why would we let it fall?
xanderman2064 [5:33 P.M.]: Because the cause of our country is bullshit that no one agrees on, we're mentally weak because of this, and we're not exempt from history.
Skater1S4 [5:34 P.M.]: OK, what do you think our cause is?
xanderman2064 [5:35 P.M.]: I don't care about our cause.
xanderman2064 [5:35 P.M.]: I care about me.
xanderman2064 [5:35 P.M.]: I care about the people who care about me.
xanderman2064 [5:35 P.M.]: That's it.
Skater1S4 [5:36 P.M.]: What do you think the cause of the united nations is, we want peace, not all this war crap thats been going lately.
Skater1S4 [5:37 P.M.]: Thats selfish that you only care about yourself
xanderman2064 [5:37 P.M.]: Ironically, our country can't keep its guns in tow long enough to create peace.
Skater1S4 [5:37 P.M.]: you have a point
xanderman2064 [5:37 P.M.]: We will fall.
xanderman2064 [5:37 P.M.]: It's inevitable.
xanderman2064 [5:37 P.M.]: To say otherwise is to be ignorant of history.
Skater1S4 [5:38 P.M.]: i dont think so, its your opinion, i love this country and im loyal to it i will never doubt it no matter what anybody says
xanderman2064 [5:39 P.M.]: Bush's an idiot.
Skater1S4 [5:40 P.M.]: yes he is an idiot, but i like how he runs the country
xanderman2064 [5:40 P.M.]: Bah. He's restricting personal freedoms.
Skater1S4 [5:40 P.M.]: i dont agree on how he goes and bombs everything though
xanderman2064 [5:40 P.M.]: I don't agree how he expands the governemnt.
xanderman2064 [5:40 P.M.]: Why can't I type?
xanderman2064 [5:41 P.M.]: Geez.
Skater1S4 [5:41 P.M.]: Hmm
xanderman2064 [5:42 P.M.]: Don't tell me you think that laws are good.
Skater1S4 [5:43 P.M.]: Yes, i do think that laws are good, thats what keeps our country in line(sort of) i dont agree with some of the laws though
xanderman2064 [5:43 P.M.]: I don't believe in them
Skater1S4 [5:44 P.M.]: i do
xanderman2064 [5:44 P.M.]: Why?
Skater1S4 [5:45 P.M.]: like i said before it keeps our country in line, its what we are based on, its our system, you have to belive in them
xanderman2064 [5:45 P.M.]: No I don't.
xanderman2064 [5:45 P.M.]: I believe in capitalism.
xanderman2064 [5:46 P.M.]: I believe in the free market.
Skater1S4 [5:46 P.M.]: -_-
xanderman2064 [5:46 P.M.]: As long as there are laws restricting it, in any possible way, I'm opposed.
Skater1S4 [5:46 P.M.]: well, you are intitled to your opinion
xanderman2064 [5:47 P.M.]: You're entitled to my opinion as well.
xanderman2064 [5:47 P.M.]: Mine has logical support, though.
Skater1S4 [5:47 P.M.]: mine has morral support
xanderman2064 [5:47 P.M.]: Morality...no.
xanderman2064 [5:48 P.M.]: Yours has
xanderman2064 [5:48 P.M.]: "follow blindly" support
xanderman2064 [5:48 P.M.]: Morality is an issue of personal philosophy.
Skater1S4 [5:48 P.M.]: mmmhhhmmmm
xanderman2064 [5:48 P.M.]: I, personally, believe in rationality. That means independent thinking.
xanderman2064 [5:48 P.M.]: It also means that I don't take my ideas from the media, propoganda, or parents/guardians/teachers
Skater1S4 [5:49 P.M.]: i dont take ideas from the media, but i do from parents and teachers
Skater1S4 [5:49 P.M.]: what i do not like about this country though is, its controlled by the media
Skater1S4 [5:49 P.M.]: and soon the world will be
xanderman2064 [5:50 P.M.]: Then you're taking crap from the government and more crap from immoral blindmen.
Skater1S4 [5:50 P.M.]: and thats a shame
xanderman2064 [5:50 P.M.]: Wow.
xanderman2064 [5:50 P.M.]: That's another popular view that is horribly wrong.
Skater1S4 [5:50 P.M.]: how so?
xanderman2064 [5:51 P.M.]: How does the meda control us?
xanderman2064 [5:51 P.M.]: At all?
xanderman2064 [5:51 P.M.]: I am not dependent on the media in any way.
xanderman2064 [5:51 P.M.]: My opinions are separate from those of the media.
Skater1S4 [5:51 P.M.]: the own, influence, sway us if you will in the directions they want us to go in
Skater1S4 [5:52 P.M.]: why do you think people started smoking, having permiscuose sex, not spending time with family? ill tell you why
xanderman2064 [5:53 P.M.]: Independent thinking!
Skater1S4 [5:54 P.M.]: because the media is everywhere in our homes, TV, computer, books, foods, cartoons(even kids), were swayed by our peers, billboards, music, movies, radio, POP UPS! they own everything, there for they controll almost everuthing
Skater1S4 [5:54 P.M.]: everything**
xanderman2064 [5:55 P.M.]: I'm sorry, but I think opinions that ignorant should not be uttered.
xanderman2064 [5:55 P.M.]: If you'll excuse me, I'm off to think about things.
xanderman2064 [5:55 P.M.]: Try it sometime.
Skater1S4 [5:55 P.M.]: really, i just put alot of thinking into that, i gave you an intelligent answer not some opinion
xanderman2064 [5:56 P.M.]: The people don't do things because the media said so.
Skater1S4 [5:57 P.M.]: not said so, they nudged them in the direction of that, everything you see on tv and anywhere else is swaying you in a direction
Skater1S4 [5:58 P.M.]: i think this should be posted in the "will amaerica fall" thread because this conversations explains both sides of the arguement
xanderman2064 [5:58 P.M.]: Look...you're being disgustingly ignorant.
xanderman2064 [5:58 P.M.]: Come back when you grow a brain stem.
Skater1S4 [5:59 P.M.]: no, you confronted me, you are being ignorent, sayiong opinions shouldnt be uttered, thats ingnorent.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:09 PM   #13
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One has to wonder whether China's increasing industrialization and modernization will decrease the stability of the Communist government. Personally, I feel that China's economic and cultural changes will lead eventually to democratization and with that democratization, more regulations will be imposed on China's manufacturing centers, since currently China has none, and factories can pollute as much as they want. (China is the world's leading polluter).

As for whether China's rise means anything about America's fall... I doubt it. Personally I think America lacks a unity of vision. The salad bowl effect of all the ethnicities and cultures present creates too much argument about the direction the future should take. I think it is more likely that in the long run America will split apart, if it is to decline at all.

The other possible future is one of increased global cooperation, in which larger nations merge themselves. I don't see this happening though until space colonization becomes feasible and one country alone can't fund it.

Either way it is several centuries ahead of us.
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I think it's ironic that America's intitial cause was Independence, and Q thinks that there is no cause anymore except bullshit causes, and he's all for Independence. He's living the dream.

And Q, you started a fight and then called him stupid. I enjoyed the first chunk of the conversation because I respect both sides. Yes, I think America will fall, but I also think that there's a stark lack in faith of the government.

I honestly like our government, and so far, my personal freedoms? Perfectly fine. No restrictions over here.

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wow, and to think i wasted my time reading that whole thing. Basically all it said was Q is smart. And falcon not so much. Although I could be biased because I heavily disagree when people say the media is to blame for what Falcon talked about (smoking, promiscuous sex, etc...). In fact there are so many FCC regulations on smoking, it's rediculous. As for why people are doing those things, in the example of sex, because they want to. Sex is a natural urge, and people want to fulfill that urge. They aren't doing it because movies show it in a stylized fashion. In fact I'd wager to say that back in the days before media was prevalent, or before media period, there was just as much if not more promiscuous sex going on. In fact I can almost gurantee it. I don't pay enough attention to politics to know much about the current rise, or prediction or rise for China, so I won't comment. Also falcon, why do you take ideas from parents and teachers if (according to you) most people are affected by the media, then won't they just be passing their 'media-corrupted' ideals onto you? Perhaps you should just not listen to what anyone says, sit in a corner, and play tic-tac-toe. At least then no one will be trying to tell you what to think. Pure idiocy.
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Skater1S4 (6:06:22 PM): hey
Skater1S4 (6:06:29 PM): multi player isnt working
pyro31191 (6:06:30 PM): Our country is bull shit.
pyro31191 (6:06:32 PM): lol
Skater1S4 (6:06:36 PM): mhm
Skater1S4 (6:06:39 PM): no
Skater1S4 (6:06:59 PM): did you read my giant huge post of me ang Q's conversationj?
Skater1S4 (6:07:05 PM): conversation**
pyro31191 (6:07:11 PM): I'm currently readin git.
Skater1S4 (6:07:16 PM): o
Skater1S4 (6:07:39 PM): i bet im gonna get flamed for it, but it presents both sides
pyro31191 (6:07:45 PM): xanderman2064 [5:39 P.M.]: Bush's an idiot.
Skater1S4 [5:40 P.M.]: yes he is an idiot, but i like how he runs the country
pyro31191 (6:07:52 PM): You deserve to die for saying that.
pyro31191 (6:07:53 PM): So much
Skater1S4 (6:08:22 PM): no no, he is an idiot but he represents the modern man
pyro31191 (6:08:39 PM): He represents the Modern Hypocrit
Skater1S4 (6:08:45 PM): no
pyro31191 (6:09:03 PM): The man is a genius of morons
Skater1S4 (6:09:25 PM): he is no moron
Skater1S4 (6:09:52 PM): if he can get ellected and then re-elected by the country he is no moron
pyro31191 (6:10:10 PM): Because he has swayed the country to his communistic ways.
Skater1S4 (6:10:21 PM): o no no no
pyro31191 (6:10:27 PM): He's a fucking dicatating, communistic, hypocrit.
Skater1S4 (6:11:28 PM): no he is not a hypocrit and he is not comunistic nor is he a dictator
Skater1S4 (6:11:38 PM): saddam was a dictator
Skater1S4 (6:11:48 PM): bush is a president
pyro31191 (6:11:51 PM): Saddam was god to this man.
Skater1S4 (6:11:58 PM): no
pyro31191 (6:11:58 PM): XD
pyro31191 (6:12:05 PM): That made me lol.
Skater1S4 (6:12:11 PM): i hate it when people say that
Skater1S4 (6:12:21 PM): america haters
pyro31191 (6:12:22 PM): I was kidding at the Saddam thing.
Skater1S4 (6:12:23 PM): lol
Skater1S4 (6:12:25 PM): o
Skater1S4 (6:12:26 PM): ololol
pyro31191 (6:12:28 PM): I fucking live in america.
Skater1S4 (6:12:45 PM): i know
pyro31191 (6:12:52 PM): How does Bush keep us in line?
Skater1S4 (6:13:05 PM): not bush, the laws do
pyro31191 (6:15:03 PM): We have caused a fucking hostile take over aka liberation in Iraq, our fucking economy is dropping, and this entire liberating Iraq shit is all for oil thats why it was codenamed Operation
Iraqi
Liberation
pyro31191 (6:15:18 PM):
Operation
IraqiLiberation
pyro31191 (6:15:21 PM): Argh
pyro31191 (6:15:33 PM):
Operation
Iraqi
Liberation.
pyro31191 (6:15:38 PM): What does that spell?
pyro31191 (6:15:39 PM): OIL
Skater1S4 (6:15:59 PM): that made me lol, but, no
pyro31191 (6:16:00 PM): Jesus I can't spell today
pyro31191 (6:16:58 PM): So what do you have to say about those 3 things about Bush.
pyro31191 (6:17:11 PM): ?*
Skater1S4 (6:18:31 PM): he is a good, clean, honest funny man and he deserves to run this great country of ours
pyro31191 (6:18:57 PM): Funny compared to who?
pyro31191 (6:19:04 PM): Honest...I think not.
Skater1S4 (6:19:08 PM): ya he is
Skater1S4 (6:19:32 PM): heyt in the multiplayer LD and synth are playing a game
Skater1S4 (6:19:48 PM): i wanna spectate
pyro31191 (6:19:52 PM): No
Skater1S4 (6:19:57 PM): wait
Skater1S4 (6:20:01 PM): it says ld only
Skater1S4 (6:20:03 PM): damn
pyro31191 (6:20:10 PM): I want a decent answer supported with facts on why you think Bush is a good president
Skater1S4 (6:20:22 PM): ok
Skater1S4 (6:22:07 PM): He again is a good man, which we need in office, he is strong and is capable of making good desisions, he certainly loves this country, and yes our economy has gone bad but it is going back up, he is getting the hang of things and shouldnt have so many people breathing down his neck
pyro31191 (6:25:13 PM): The only reason people aren't backing him up and breathing down his neck is because he fucked us over in his first term. Richard Nixon did better in fucking office than him. Once again I ask how is he a good man? He certainly isn't capable of making good decisions becuase he's sticking his nose where he is not needed. Have we found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? No, we haven't. And when the next person to come in to office comes in we will be breathing down his neck on the economy even though it was actually Bush's fault.
Skater1S4 (6:29:17 PM): i think he is capable of making good desicions, and no we havent found any weapons of mass destruction, i think the reason that bush went looking foe "WOMD" is because of the terrorist attacks and he was just being careful. if im wrong and there was a nuclear threat then i stand corrected.
pyro31191 (6:29:43 PM): Iraq didn't make the terrorist attacks, you know that right?
Skater1S4 (6:29:52 PM): i know that
Skater1S4 (6:29:56 PM): duh
Skater1S4 (6:29:58 PM): lol
pyro31191 (6:30:02 PM): Then do you know who did?
Skater1S4 (6:30:18 PM): yes, it was alquida right?
pyro31191 (6:30:33 PM): Yeah
Skater1S4 (6:30:37 PM): yea
pyro31191 (6:30:42 PM): Saddam had no direct ties to them.
pyro31191 (6:30:48 PM): You also know that right?
Skater1S4 (6:31:08 PM): well that might not be true, not all the facts are known and mey never be
pyro31191 (6:31:39 PM): The only thing Saddam has been rightfully accused of is running oppresive ways.
pyro31191 (6:31:53 PM): And we shouldn't do jack shit about it.
pyro31191 (6:32:05 PM): Because it's thats country's business.
pyro31191 (6:32:40 PM): Even if we don't like it, it doesn't mean we should stroll in and capture and arrest the dictator.
Skater1S4 (6:32:52 PM): well apperantly we have no control over that, =O, and i just made your point-_-
pyro31191 (6:33:04 PM): We are just being the big rich bully.
pyro31191 (6:33:12 PM): See, you can't really escape that fact.
Skater1S4 (6:34:20 PM): i still believe in this country and i will alweays stand by it, maybe i cant escape that fact but its not going to make me not like the gov. or country
pyro31191 (6:35:09 PM): I believe in this country and I always will stand by it, but I will not always stand by the government and the president.
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Well, I'm glad this turned into a "Make Falcon Feel Dumb" thread as opposed to a Critical Thinking thread.

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pyro31191 (6:31:39 PM): The only thing Saddam has been rightfully accused of is running oppresive ways.
pyro31191 (6:31:53 PM): And we shouldn't do jack (#$% about it.
pyro31191 (6:32:05 PM): Because it's thats country's business.
pyro31191 (6:32:40 PM): Even if we don't like it, it doesn't mean we should stroll in and capture and arrest the dictator.
Yes, quite so. We should never interfere with another country, especially when their dictator is killing hundreds of thousands. I'm sure the Jewish population of Germany would agree, too.

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whew. good thing the 2nd holocaust is over.....according to mal. Why did we choose that country, at that time? Sadaam wasn't tied to alquida, he didn't attack us, didn't have weapons of mass destruction. good war on terrorism.
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I'm sorry that it takes nothing short of a holocaust for someone to step in and say "Murdering your own people for voicing dissent is wrong". By all means, kill people that don't agree with you if you can get away with it!

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