PSP flaws (and that darned square button...)

[nforcer06164]

For those of you that don't know...

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4263

Just thought I'd bring that to light. 5,000 returns for the button ALONE. That doesn't include those who don't have other problems, or those who are dealing with it.

Take a VERY CLOSE look at the alignment of the square button, and be sure to bring the image to full size. What really gets me is Kutaragi's comments on the issue. You did it ON PURPOSE, Kutaragi? Thank you. You really couldn't add a centimeter of size to the casing to allow the square button to work properly? Thanks for reassuring us that you care about the customer.

If you have time, read the comments (from bottom to top, they have them in reverse order); many are very insightful.

Articles about flawed PSP hardware: a lot. Why? Because it is. Consistent with Sony's hardware record.

Articles about flawed DS hardware: none. Why? Because it isn't. Consistent with Nintendo's hardware record.

Originally Posted by kakashi3

DS argh i hate it i can't wait until PSP

LOL.

[themanwithsauce]

If anyone thinks that the PSP is better after this all I have to say is, you can't play with a broken device. Let alone it costs $100 more than the DS. I'd have to say nintendo won the handheld wars. The only thing unbroken psps are good for now is showing movies of the nintendo revolution and DS advertisments.

[Chromer]

You two both are idiots because 1) Almost everyone in the universe knows this problem right now, and 2) PSP hasn't even been released in America yet. I suggest you two wait until March 24. before you start making assumptions.

[Anticrombie0909]

If I see one more topic about the DS or the PSP I'm going to sic Bruce on you.

[jewpinthethird]

I'd just like to point on something...that has nothing to do with either the DS or PSP.

Articles about flawed PSP hardware: a lot. Why? Because it is. Consistent with Sony's hardware record.

I have purchased and used many Sony products, guess what, every single one has worked as good as the day I bought it. I have never had any trouble with any sony product, ever. Usually, when someone has a problem with an electronic device, 87% of the time it is their fault, not the device's. Computers are a prime example of this. When something goes wrong, most likely your first instinct is to blurt out "DAMN MICROSOFT." I know this since I have done it many of times. But it isnt Microsoft's fault the user is an idiot.

I've had my Sony Portable CD player for 8 years....I have dropped it numerous times, left it in 120+ degree tempuratures and dozens of other terrible things, but it still works as good as new (though it doesnt look very pretty). Same goes for my PS2, though I have never done anything too bad to it. I have never had a disk error.

PSP problems? I havent heard any non-nintendo fanboys complain, so whatever.

Dont be so quick to judge. Maybe the PSP is a POS, but I will be the judge of that, not some fanboy from teh intarnet.

[Chromer]

LOL You tell them Jewp!

[Squeek]

Oh?

Tell me something. Of all the people that bought a PS2 in 2000 and 2001, how many of them still work without having to go into the device and spin the white disc back into place?

You know, the thing that prevents Disc Read Errors?

I'll tell you. Hardly any.

Thousands of people had this stupid problem with their PS2 and ended up either buying a new one or taking the repair job into their own hands.

And now this. The lines in the pictures clearly show that the square button is absolutely not where it should be. Then there's that issue with the discs not even staying inside the container deal.

Also, Chromer, did you read this part carefully?

Because Sony wasn't willing to shrink the LCD screen by a centimeter or two, or increase the overall size of the PSP by a centimeter or two, it appears that this button alignment and sticking problem will be around for the forseeable future with the PSP; most likely including the upcoming North American release.

When it comes out, we'll see if they bothered to fix their problem.

~Squeek

[blitzmage]

Sony pretty much told PSP buyers and game companies to "adapt" to a sticky square key which is arrogent and stupid. He also has the nerve to say it is a masterpeice and nobody should question it.
In other words Sony said "Like it or like it! Please wipe the ass smudges off the door as it closes on the way out."

[tsutter]

Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Oh?

Tell me something. Of all the people that bought a PS2 in 2000 and 2001, how many of them still work without having to go into the device and spin the white disc back into place?

You know, the thing that prevents Disc Read Errors?

I'll tell you. Hardly any.

Mine started doing that recently :<

[evilbutterfly]

Everything else works in my PS2 except dark games. I bought Gradius 5 and have only been able to play it twice in my machine, but it works fine in other people's machines because they hardly ever play PS2 games. As far as other Sony products (non-video game stuff), I'm pretty sure they have an excellent record of being reliable and awesome. It seems like Sony likes releasing faulty consoles =\

As for the PSP, wouldn't it be a fairly easy thing to just shift the sensor over a little bit? Just have a lil bit more wire in one direction and a lil less in the other, and line it up from that side. That way the unit itself is no bigger and the screen's size is the same as well. And they oughta fix it, or else they'll get another huge lawsuit and they'll have to pay to repair all the faulty units, just like they have to do for PS2s.

[nforcer06164]

Originally Posted by jewpinthethird

I'd just like to point on something...that has nothing to do with either the DS or PSP.

I have purchased and used many Sony products, guess what, every single one has worked as good as the day I bought it. I have never had any trouble with any sony product, ever.

When I meant Sony's hardware record, I meant relating to video game hardware. I thought about that after I posted, but I was sure that the people here would be smart enough to know what I meant. Squeek was.

The first and third versions of the PS2, as far as I know, had their DVD readers break after about a month. Then, only regular CD games, which is a very small fraction of PS2 games, would work. Several other versions thereafter and including two had faulty readers in one way or another. It wasn't until much later that they got it stable.

With the article I posted, however, SCEA's head has made faulty hardware on purpose. Either he doesn't care, or he's really just that stupid. I'm not sure which it is. It does explain Sony's inconsistency with their PlayStation line in comparison to their other products, though....

[jewpinthethird]

Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Tell me something. Of all the people that bought a PS2 in 2000 and 2001, how many of them still work without having to go into the device and spin the white disc back into place?

I must be one of the luck ones.

[Squeek]

The individuals that use their PS2 infrequently will not see this problem, Jewpin.

My friend has bought THREE PS2s now. I had to fix two of them so far and the repair job lasted less and less each time. The first one he tried to repair on his own after it stopped working a week after I fixed it last and he ripped out a wire pair. The second one..he put his foot through.

He only bought a third one for Kingdom Hearts 2 despite my pleas with him to wait until PS3 comes out, assuming it is backward-compatible.

~Squeek

[Anticrombie0909]

Uh

Ok seriously, every time I see a topic about PS2's flaws, the person then follows it up with I HAD TO BUY SIX MORE BECAUSE THE FIRST FIVE BROKE HOLY CRAP THIS SUCKS

If you're dumb enough to spread your cheeks to Sony's pocketbook wang, then you deserve to get shitty hardware. If my PS2 broke (it hasn't, I've had it for four years and never seen a problem), I would chuck it and never buy a new one.

[Squeek]

Yea. He's an idiot. I know.

I bought a Gamecube.

I've tested something with a friend's but not my own to see the quality of the product. Basically, one person would play a game with a couple of extension cables and another would kick around the console and lightly beat on it while the other would keep on playing. It would get completely flipped over a few times after a fierce kick and crash against a wall, but the game wouldn't freeze and the disc wouldn't scratch or pop out.

For the finale, we actually dropped it from about 2-3 feet. The game still played without problems.

Now, do this with a PS2. I reckon just flipping the thing over would cause it to explode.

And good luck kicking around and Xbox like a soccer ball. The thing would stub your toe first, then freeze the game.

~Squeek

PS - You will not find a Sony product in my house. Ever. They make shoddy electronic goods that always fall apart within a few years of use. Get Panasonic. Samsung is getting good as well (Figures Panasonic made a "super Gamecube" in 2003).

[Chromer]

Wow. Squeek is a hardcore Nintendo fan/ Sony hater. Gamecube is basically defunct due to its lack of games that appeal to widespread people. The release of RE 4 did nothing for the gamecube and probably never will. However Capcom relased a statement saying that the reason they had finally decided to put RE back in its Sony roots is because,"We were losing large amounts of money developing RE for the Gamecube exclusively, so making RE 4 for the Sony PS2, will bring the company's profits back up."

Boo-Yah. And Squeek I'm sure you have some witty and probably Sony-bashing comment to make, so go ahead.

[SpookG]

i find it unlikely that the psp will have the technical fault already realized when it ships to the US, and as the sony rep i spoke with pointed out, there is a year long manufacturer warranty anyways, so you could always just turn it in for that isn't messed up.

I think the complaints are just a chance for people to strike out at sony, instead of accepting the fact that all first releases of hardware have had bugs.

As for GC, that system is good. It is more like older nintendo systems, and by that i mean the games are less like movies and more like games. Sorry, but it looking nice doesn't hide the fact the majority of games which are produced for the ps2 and xbox are crap. GC has games which are just fun to play, and I don't see how that makes the system bad because it doesn't want to join the modern crusade to kill gameplay as we know it by making a console video game into a movie.

[Chromer]

MGS's choice for having 45 minute long cutscenes is not because it was trying to make it more like a movie. The story is so complex, the scenes must be long in order to tell the story at that point and time. I'll admit the GC does have fun games that are easy and simple to play. However that still doesn't mean that just because the GC doesn't come out with a new game every day like the PS2, it makes it better than PS2. I'm not bashing Nintendo for I have been playing Nintendo since I was born. I'm saying is that Nintendo's dominance over consoles had ended a long time ago and Nintendo must pull an ace out of thier sleeves if they wish to stay in the console race.

This same thoery applies to the DS and PSP. People nowadays don't only want innovative gameplay. They want a portable media center that can be accessible.

[Kenzya]

Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Now, do this with a PS2. I reckon just flipping the thing over would cause it to explode.

And good luck kicking around and Xbox like a soccer ball. The thing would stub your toe first, then freeze the game.

No, and no. You remember that article about the Xbox being shot right? It still plays games just fine. The PS2 can handle a lot of beating too.. When I used to have it stood up it was knocked down so many times and tripped over so many times.. mostly by people who running too, game ran fine.

Oh yeah, and I'm with the whole.. "People are looking for a portable media center" ..group. I'm still looking forward to the PSP too.

[Squeek]

Really.

I want to see this article / this indesructible PS2.

My friend "tripped over" his ps2 and put a huge crack in the case. THEN he ripped out the wire pair leading to the power button. But not before putting a crack from one end to the other on the thing.

Chromer - Where are you getting this "SQUEEK HATES PS2" crap? Sure, Sony makes shoddy equipment and sells it off as decent hardware, but they still have SOME great exclusive games for PS2. Kingdom Hearts 2 will rock my world if I ever get the chance to play it. Frequency and Amplitude are amazing games. Ratchet and Clank is really fun too.

I don't want a portable media center. I have an iPod and a laptop. What else could I want? When I want a console, I want a hardcore gaming MACHINE.

As for innovation? Nintendo has patented a camera-type system that is rumored to be in the next Mario Party game. IE - A REAL PARTY GAME. No controllers.

Nintendo doesn't need to do anything more than upgrade the components in their next console to stay in the race and you know it. They'll do it anyway though. From what I hear, PS3 and Xbox2 are offering nothing new as of yet other than some upgraded graphics.

We'll see come E3.

~Squeek