WTF flag is raised to red, blood red...

[banditcom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/

Under Jewish law, a mohel — someone who performs circumcisions — draws blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but Fischer uses a practice rare outside strict Orthodox groups where he uses his mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin.

Really, I'm speechless... other than reenforcing my happiness with never being cut.

I still think that circumcision should be a last resort and only for health reasons.

[lightdarkness]

Ow.

I'm glad I was like, 10 seconds old when it happened

[Anticrombie0909]

Circumcision has proven to be a healthy process that improves your overall sexual health. Sucking blood from the wound with your mouth, however, has not.

[banditcom]

Proven, where? It provides more complications.

And OVERALL sexual health?! You lose thousands of nerve endings with the removal of the foreskin. Plus the head of the penis gets calloused from all the rubbing it does up against the material from diapers/underwear. The only time circumcision should be done is when they have to health wise, meaning they have some sort of problem and circumcision is the best solution for it.

I've never understood why people are vehemently opposed to circumcision.

I don't mind at all.

[banditcom]

I'm not vehemently opposed to male circumcision. Female circumcision though? Yes.

I still think it's wrong in either case. But whatever, your loss. I have full feeling in my penis.

[Tasselfoot]

Ugh. I can't stand watching porn with uncircumcised guys. Its disgusting. Nasty flap of skin making the penis head look like a small critter popping in and out of its hole.

Quite glad I was snipped. Plus, from an aesthetic standpoint, uncircumcised penisi are quite ugly. Not that I stare reguarly at penisi... I'm just thinking of if I had my natural shrinkwrap back on, and its like "ugh, that is so ugly." Plus, porn. Ugly. Go mohels!

[banditcom]

Most people, including girls, think all penises are ugly. :P

[Tasselfoot]

I know of at least 1 girl who thinks otherwise.

[ananana]

I think otherwise.

[banditcom]

I already knew you did.

[Afrobean]

Tass, can you please stop making up plural forms of things. The plural form of penis is penises, not penisi. It doesn't even share the same form as octopus or cactus (ending in us) so there is no reason I can even see why you would want to make it end in an i.

Now that that's out of the way, I will share my opinions on both circumsized and uncircumsized penises:

Circumsized has strong points. It does make the penis less funny looking. If you have this done, you never have to worry about stuff being in the foreskin and causing infections or whatever. I also heard that it's supposed to make the penis look bigger, but I'm not too sure how that works.

Uncircumsized is good for different reasons. The process of circumsizing does, like Bandit said, remove many sensitive nerves. These nerves do aid in the act of sex, and I'd imagine that it makes sex quite more enjoyable. This style is also superior to getting cut, because it is the natural way; you don't need to experience the trauma of getting part of your penis cut off.

I would reccomend against circumsision. I see no reason to choose it over remaining natural. Who cares if your penis is a little funny looking, if you get more from sex that way? I sadly had no choice in this matter on my own body though- I was circumsized as a baby. I hate that my parents would do this to me.

[Tasselfoot]

Afro, where else did I change the pluralization of a word for there to be "stop making up plurals." It implies I've done it elsewhere. Plus, penisi is how Whorli says it, and I find it amusing.

Also, how is there trauma of getting the foreskin removed when it is done at birth?

And, from all the porn I've seen, I'd have to say that circumcized does look bigger in addition to looking better.

I have no idea how the sex is in one vs the other, nor would many men be able to compare the two. I'm quite happy with the sex I have.

Lastly, you're right Afro. Few guys have a choice in the decision. They get snipped at birth. Those that aren't have the choice later on, but I'm sure it is much more painful once you are cognizent of what is happening.

[whorlichan]

Sorry, love, but Afro's right in this case. Just because I say it (and I say it because it's funny ) doesn't make it right...and that's the ONLY time you will ever hear me admit that.

99% of the males I know are circumcised, and 100% of the Jewish males I know...because it's a religious thing for us as well as a hygenic health thing. It's part of the Covenant, yadda yadda.

As for not being able to enjoy sex--every uncircumcised guy I know enjoys sex. They've never had the chance to have sex uncircumcised, having had it done as babies, and therefore don't know of this magical "amazing uncircumcised sex." You can't miss what you've never experienced.

Being circumcised as a baby is NOT a traumatic experience. At 8 days old (the time when Jewish males have it done; I know in many hospitals they do it as early as 2 or 3 days) there are not many memories formed that are ingrained in the mind. Don't tell me you remember being circumcised, Afro?

As for sex with cut vs. uncut...Uncut penisi are scary looking. Oral sex was kind of weird, and slightly grossed me out, but the sex itself was normal (besides the fact that the guy I was with had NO FUCKING CLUE what he was doing, and I would have probably had more fun by myself). I didn't really see any difference in sensation, if that's what you guys are looking for.

[Tasselfoot]

Babe, where did I ever say that Afro was wrong? All I said is that I said it because you say it. Call it an inside joke. My comment was related to him jumping on me like I poorly pluralize words every day. I'm well aware that it isn't the correct plural. Enough.

And, there ya have it from the female perspective.

[zajac]

OMFG... If I wasn't at school right now, I would follow up this thread with the PERFECT reply... If no one posts what I'm gonna post in 3 hours before I get home, then I'm gonna post it... Oh... You'll see... You'll AAAAALL see...

[Lupin_the_3rd]

Originally Posted by zajac

OMFG... If I wasn't at school right now, I would follow up this thread with the PERFECT reply... If no one posts what I'm gonna post in 3 hours before I get home, then I'm gonna post it... Oh... You'll see... You'll AAAAALL see...

Nobody wants to see it, zajac.

[JurseyRider734]

Originally Posted by Lupin_the_3rd

Nobody wants to see it, zajac.

Watch Lupin ask for the picture as soon as he talks to zajac on aim/msn.

[Afrobean]

Sorry, Tass. I did word that incorrectly. I apologize for wording it in a way that implies you've done it more than once. That was not really my intention.

Also, no, I do not remember being circumsized, but just imagine if we all could remember it. Do you really want something that bad happening, just because we won't remember it? Again, I used bad wording, but I think my idea gets across with what I just said.

Originally Posted by zajac

OMFG... If I wasn't at school right now, I would follow up this thread with the PERFECT reply... If no one posts what I'm gonna post in 3 hours before I get home, then I'm gonna post it... Oh... You'll see... You'll AAAAALL see...

It's not that "HELP I'M A PENIS" image, is it? I was thinking about getting that on a T-shirt or something, but my mother would never allow it. Plus it is kind of offensive.

[banditcom]

Originally Posted by whorlichan

...as well as a hygenic health thing.

lol.. hygenic health thing...

As long as your parents aren't stupid and encourage you to keep all the parts of your body clean (and you're not a complete retard), then it's MUCH healthier/safer than being circumsized. There are many risks involved with circumcision. The only health benefits one can get from circumcision is if they need it done because of something wrong health wise.