Radical Feminism

[trillobyite]

Surfing around on the net I found a political forum, and someone made a topic about this. I read it and totally agree with him. I just copied it and pasted for you guys to read.

"So, watching some random documentary regarding feminism, I unfortunately was forced to watch one radical, whose views, in my opinion, were so disgustingly wrong that I.... nevermind, just look

Her points:
1. Firefighter strength tests should be lowered down so that more women can pass them. That way, more women can apply for jobs as firefighters.
2. Companies such as Sears should be forced to fulfill a quota of female workers.
3. Haircuts and cleaners should have an equal charge for men and women.

My counters:
1. This made me flip out. Even women who passed the strength test protested against this. You are telling me that, just because someone is born physically weaker than another, that person should be employed as a firefighter and be given a job where one's life is in serious danger? If YOU CANNOT CARRY THE HOSE TO STOP A FIRE (Regardless of gender), YOU ARE NOT MEANT TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. The strength tests were created so that one will have the strength when combating fires to carry a heavy hose and use it. However, radical feminists sue the firefighter companies for not employing enough women.
2. Sears asked many women to join them, but they refused, saying they did not want to have jobs selling lawn mowers. Radical feminists proceeded to sue Sears. So, these "feminists" actually want women to be forced into jobs they do not want? Oh great logic there, dumb***es.
3. Well guess what, in a haircut, the girl usually has more requests, more hair, and working on her is tough and must be done precisely. Therefore, why should the prices be equal if one requires more skill and aptitude, along with more determination? Females also tend to have more requests and want a perfect result at the cleaners, as well as the fact that some of the clothes consist of many materials. Therefore, once again, it takes more work to finish such a job and she should be charged more.

What do you think?"

[Squeek]

That is just obvious, though.

We all knew that there are pissy women out there that want to have "equal rights" even though the examples they give are just plain stupid.

We've known that for a while now.

But, the guy is right regardless.

~Squeek

[Tank101]

There are some things women can't do and they don't realize it.

For example, there could be a woman applying for a job for a bouncer. She could have kickass karate skills, plus be pretty ripped. But she wouldn't get the job because the purpose of being a bouncer isn't to start trouble, but to prevent it. In other words, to intimidate instead of fight. So it doesn't matter if she can kick your ass, no one would be as intimidated by a woman as they would a man. Unless the women was like 7 feet tall with huge muscles.

[ImEric12]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on number three. The cost for haircuts and stuff should be exactly equal regardless of gender, but rise for more requests/complicated hair cuts and stuff. Gender should not play a role there.

[BluE_MeaniE]

Originally Posted by ImEric12

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on number three. The cost for haircuts and stuff should be exactly equal regardless of gender, but rise for more requests/complicated hair cuts and stuff. Gender should not play a role there.

I agree with you here.
Otherwise women who don't have requests and men who do get unfair (dis)advantages only because of their gender.

[Anticrombie0909]

Hey sup

Nobody is forcing women to grow their hair longer. Halle Berry has shorter hair than I do and she's considered one of the most beautiful women on television. The fact of the matter is, women generally grow longer and more elaborate hairstyles, which is simply harder to maintain. There is nothing unfair about that. I mean, that's like saying a cheese pizza should cost the same as an extra thick double pepperoni, double cheese works, because you like all the extra toppings that way.

The truth behind women and employment:

The reason women are employed less frequently/paid less is because they have greater demands. Men ask for 9-to-5 jobs, 5 days a week, usually overtime if they're offered it. Many women, on the other hand, often ask for special schedules to try to fit their jobs in with their soccer-mom lives. If you're only working 15 hours a week, no wonder you're going to get paid less.

If the woman is the secondary source of income in the household, they don't feel obligated to work so much, so they don't.

[Squeek]

Time = Money.

It takes twice as long (generally) for a woman to receive a normal haircut.

OK? The barber isn't going to charge you the same price for a 5-10 minute haircut as a 20-30 minute haircut. He could have gotten 3 guys in during that time and made triple the money.

~Squeek

[roopert]

Squeek, that isn't what they are saying. MOST girls do have longer hair and it does take more time and effort to cut it. HOWEVER, there are guys who do have hair just as long as most girls and they are charged less for the exact same thing. On the flip side, there are girls with short hair that are charged more than a guy is for the same cut. What we are saying is that the price should be based on what work and how much time is put into the hair, not solely the gender of the customer.

[Anticrombie0909]

HOWEVER, there are guys who do have hair just as long as most girls and they are charged less for the exact same thing. On the flip side, there are girls with short hair that are charged more than a guy is for the same cut. What we are saying is that the price should be based on what work and how much time is put into the hair, not solely the gender of the customer.

lol

Find me proof, feminazi. The haircutters aren't stupid. There's no way they'd discriminate that obviously by gender. Unless you go to some shitty, trailer trash haircutter, no barber will ever do that.

[stretchypanda]

It depresses me that there are women with such extreme views on "equality." I'm much happier using my overall competence to succeed than crying sexism any time I am knocked down. I've personally never really encountered MUCH sexism, until recently, but that's from a teammate, and he's a moron and very easy to ignore.

Firefighter strength tests are more to prove that the firefighter has the ability to lug a body out of a burning building than carry a hose to a building, although I know both require amazing power (I've tried on a fireman's helmet before, and I certainly couldn't hold my head up).

Radical feminists have not yet come to the realization that not all women are discontent with their status in life. Were I to join a feminist movement, it would be to advocate abstinence and birth control to young girls, to teach women to stand up for themselves, to get an education, so that someday we will not have a need for lawsuits to acheive fair treatment.

And as for haircuts: When I get a trim, I pay eighteen to thirty-five dollars, depending on where I go for my haircut. EVERYWHERE I've been, the cost for a men's haircut is ten dollars, regardless of length. Now, I am obviously willing to pay this much money for a quality haircut that will make me sexy and make my boyfriend desire me that much more (zomg feminist movement jumps back ten steps!), but it doesn't make any sense that, when I had very short hair, I paid at least eight dollars more than a man would have to to maintain a very similar cut.

I posted this in hopes that you gentlemen don't believe all women feel the same way as radical feminists do. =) I find feminists stupid and hindering.

[jewpinthethird]

Equal rights, not special rights.

[Spazzbite]

Femenism, just another thing I can't stand.

You didn't get to choose to be a woman? Yeah, neither did we. But obviously life for you is SOOOO much worse than all the other women, so you have to make an attempt at being noticed. Out of pure honesty, I have never met a SINGLE man that fully appreciates a femenist.

So wait, you want a job quota? In SEARS??? Why not construction? Surely there's women who want to work in construction, what about them? Sounds almost prejudice against women if you ask me.

[ImEric12]

Originally Posted by jewpinthethird

Equal rights, not special rights.

THANK YOU.


Jewpin wins all debate.

[zildjian133]

Wow, I've never seen the local barber oppressing women around here. Also lowering strength tests is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If you could choose who to drag your ass out of a burning house who would you choose: A burly man that passed the strength test without a rights organization or a woman who cried for help so feminazis had to help push her into a burning building. lol....

[Cenright]

The thing about the dry cleaners. A woman's blouse costs more usually because the thing has frills and a lot more fabric. The problem is that if a woman brings in a plain blouse, she is still charged the feminine price. YES, that part of it isn't fair. Because a basic small blouse will still be charged at the full woman's price. That is what should change.

We all know there are gender differences. Adapting to those differences and understanding limits is needed.
Most women should never be police officers, unless she dresses out at 240 lbs.
If she pulls over a man, he is going to think he would be able to take advantage of her, or at least bully her, where as he wouldn't do that if it was a man. This means that she has to be pulling out her gun many more times than a man needs to, and that is somewhat of a problem.



Radical feminists are the people who will always whine about sexism.
It is the same as the black people that always talk about it being race.

I understand that is always happens, but by doing it so much, you aren't getting what you want, you are just undermining your own character. If you have to make up an excuse to get your way, then you are just too lazy to do it the real way.

[zildjian133]

The rights organization should be smart enough to think of plausible rights for themselves and not have Cenright point out their arguments.... lol.....

[Cenright]

Yes, I am saying that 1 out of 20 of their arguments might be ok. But they take that argument too far, because giving them an inch might be alright, but they want a mile.

The drycleaning thing is only part true, but i still think there should be 2 prices, but which clothing articles get which prices should be redone somewhat.

[GuidoHunter]

Waitwaitwait, who's letting women go and do what they want? Have the guys of the world gone soft?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[QreepyBORIS]

Women suck.


Oh, punny.





I don't particularly respect the feminism movement. I mean, fight for equal rights, that's fine. The table tips slightly in the mens' favor, and I don't mind at all if that changes. But feminism is virtually a movement that aims to put women on top of men (this is not a pun). That makes no sense.

Equality is in.

Feminism is out.

Jewpin wins.