Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you?

Torment · 12-4-2004, 04:55 PM

As of tonight, a large issue has been brought up in the FFR Chat. The issue is about the popularity of Vampire Hunters versus that of Vampires themselves.

Now, as we most know, Vampires have universal appeal and press in cinema, TV, books, and far more. Usually seen as the antagonist with a Vampire Hunter as the protagonist. But does he/she get the true limelight? That is why this poll has been formed.

Discuss within this thread about what you believe is the better of the two, discuss vampires/vampire hunting, myths, legends, etc.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2004, 05:00 PM

well... i really hate to break it to you Torment... but, vampires aren't real. so.... its kind of a moot issue.

also, Blade > all

Torment · 12-4-2004, 05:07 PM

Vampires aren't real? I beg to differ.
In the late 1100's, a region of Europe was inhabitted by a rather large group of men and women who ritualistically believed in the drinking of blood as a way to refresh the mind, body, and soul.

Their means of obtaining such blood came from villagers whom they would kidnap and slaughter by tapping the jugular vein whilst they were knocked unconcious. They did so by using their incisors which they had sharpened using smoothed stone.

It is said that this group did not die off into obscurity but rather it spread in secrecy.

Vladmir Tepes was cited as a Vampire, but in truth, was not.

Indeed, cinema and books and the like have blurred the lines on what a "Vampire" is. Afraid of the sun, turn into Bats, yadda, yadda... I don't believe in that.

But, nonetheless...

trillobyite · 12-4-2004, 05:09 PM

On this issue, after considering the philosophical and intellectual aspects, I have concluded in the supporting of the vampire hunter. The vampire is a ferocious beast who enjoys detaching and consuming the much needed transportation liquids of the homo sapien physical systems. His actions are revolting and should be looked at with a negative attitude. The vampire hunter, on the other hand, tends to be a ferocious human as well, with a lust for vengeance and murder. It is a common theme and concept within films that the protagonist should be, using the slang term, "badass," in that he has a second side to his personality which consists of a need for murder (which also hitns at the degradation of society, anothe rissue which should be put attention to at a later date). However, he attempts only to kill with weapons that he utilizes for death, such as the sword or bayonette, while the vampire enjoys administering a slow, painful death by, as I previously mentioned, cutting through a vital attachment center between the abdomen and head known as the neck. It is for that reason that I came to the conclusion that the hunter is more moral and humane than the monstrous vampire, the lesser of two evils.

P.S. hehe im so formal

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2004, 05:10 PM

give me documented fact. don't give me 1000 year old fairy tales.

what IS fact is that there is a disease (i can't remember what its called) that requires tons and tons of blood in order to survive. more than that, i am unfamiliar with the side effects of this disease, but i'm 100% sure that immortality is not one of them.

**Snapps** · 12-4-2004, 05:13 PM

I remember watching this thing on vampires and there is a clult that wants to be a vampire so much they get vampire teeth inserted into their teeth and bite everyones necks (thats in the club) for blood. I think they did this every week with the blood.

And those teeth are permanently placed in their mouth.

evilbutterfly · 12-4-2004, 05:19 PM

As far as the fake vampires go, I don't see anything wrong with them. I mean, honestly, if vampires were real I'd kinda wanna get bit. I don't go outside during the day much as it is, immortallity would be awesome, and I already think blood tastes good. Besides, I think I could live without garlic or wooden stakes being jabbed into my heart.

**Snapps** · 12-4-2004, 05:20 PM

Yeah not sure why people are like omg blood is gross.

Well when I get a cut I just drink up the blood to get it off.

Torment · 12-4-2004, 05:24 PM

Let's look at some stereotypical characteristics of Vampire Hunters and Vampire alike.

Vampires
- Pale complexion
- Usually wear elegant garbs, adorned with a black/red cloak
- Dislike Garlic, Cross/Crucifix, Sunlight
- Can be slain only by a blessed stake through the heart
- Sleep in coffins
- Have rather large "fangs"
- Cannot be seen in mirrors
- Some are able to shift into and out of the form of a Bat

Vampire Hunters
- Usually scorned/out for revenge for a friend or family member they lost to a vampire
- Use weapons such as daggers, whips, swords, and the like
- Tend to come from a decent of vampire hunters
- Can either be human or half-vampire (Ex. Dunpeal / "D")
- Are usually aligned with God (Symbolism of Christianity/Catholicism through the Cross/Crucifix)

**Snapps** · 12-4-2004, 05:28 PM

Vampire, I am:
- Pale complexion
- Usually wear elegant garbs, adorned with a black/red cloak
- Dislike Garlic, Cross/Crucifix, Sunlight
- Can be slain only by a blessed stake through the heart

Vampire Hunter, I am:
-none-

uh oh spaghetti-o's

Torment · 12-4-2004, 05:34 PM

As a Vampire Hunter I am;
- Use weapons such as daggers, whips, swords, and the like
- Tend to come from a decent of vampire hunters (Hey, who knows?)
- Can either be human or half-vampire (Ex. Dunpeal / "D")
- Are usually aligned with God (Symbolism of Christianity/Catholicism through the Cross/Crucifix)

QreepyBORIS · 12-4-2004, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

give me documented fact. don't give me 1000 year old fairy tales.

what IS fact is that there is a disease (i can't remember what its called) that requires tons and tons of blood in order to survive. more than that, i am unfamiliar with the side effects of this disease, but i'm 100% sure that immortality is not one of them.

Don't know about that one--there is, however, a condition where direct sunlight basically kills your skin.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2004, 06:05 PM

seperate diseases qreepy... but, my disease is real.

also, if you are going to take about vampire weaknesses... be fair to all stories. silver also kills vampires.

never been an anne rice or john carpenter fan... but, marvel comics are close to my heart. so, yea... Blade > All

ps - i also don't go out much. but... garlic is awesome.

QreepyBORIS · 12-4-2004, 06:14 PM

Silver kills werewolves. Steaks (wooden) kill vampires.

And my contidtion (not MY condition, but you know) is quite real.

PS: A Week ago I ate a whole head of garlic.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2004, 06:24 PM

i know. i'm familiar with your condition.

also.... have you not seen Blade (or read the comics?). Silver kills vampires in the Blade series. silver, garlic, sunlight (not uv light), and EDTA (an anti-coagulent). stakes and crosses don't do anything.

QreepyBORIS · 12-4-2004, 06:27 PM

In Blade, perhaps. But I was thinking more about the whole Vlad the Impaler suspicions/history/etcetera kind of thing. Proven tactics, not comic book and movie tactics.

**Moogy** · 12-4-2004, 06:34 PM

I would be Alucard. He's technically a vampire hunter, but the best label for him would be badass.

Eyes_Rutherford · 12-4-2004, 06:35 PM

The way how I think about vampires are through the Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice and the Movie Interview with the Vampire. I myself want to become a vampire but eh I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.*snaps fingers* shucks

QreepyBORIS · 12-4-2004, 06:36 PM

BUFFY LOL.
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Kefit · 12-4-2004, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moogy

I would be Alucard. He's technically a vampire hunter, but the best label for him would be badass.

Yes. Vampire hunters who are themselves vampires of course win over all.

Besides, not only is Alucard a vampire hunter who is a vampire, he also defeated the legendary vampire hunter Richter Belmont.

View Poll Results: Would you rather be a Vampire Hunter or a Vampire?
Vampire Hunter (Ex. The Belmont Clan)	10	62.50%
Vampire (Ex. "Dracula&quot	6	37.50%
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12-4-2004, 04:55 PM	#1
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? As of tonight, a large issue has been brought up in the FFR Chat. The issue is about the popularity of Vampire Hunters versus that of Vampires themselves. Now, as we most know, Vampires have universal appeal and press in cinema, TV, books, and far more. Usually seen as the antagonist with a Vampire Hunter as the protagonist. But does he/she get the true limelight? That is why this poll has been formed. Discuss within this thread about what you believe is the better of the two, discuss vampires/vampire hunting, myths, legends, etc. __________________ - Torment -

12-4-2004, 05:00 PM	#2
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? well... i really hate to break it to you Torment... but, vampires aren't real. so.... its kind of a moot issue. also, Blade > all __________________ RIP

12-4-2004, 05:07 PM	#3
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? Vampires aren't real? I beg to differ. In the late 1100's, a region of Europe was inhabitted by a rather large group of men and women who ritualistically believed in the drinking of blood as a way to refresh the mind, body, and soul. Their means of obtaining such blood came from villagers whom they would kidnap and slaughter by tapping the jugular vein whilst they were knocked unconcious. They did so by using their incisors which they had sharpened using smoothed stone. It is said that this group did not die off into obscurity but rather it spread in secrecy. Vladmir Tepes was cited as a Vampire, but in truth, was not. Indeed, cinema and books and the like have blurred the lines on what a "Vampire" is. Afraid of the sun, turn into Bats, yadda, yadda... I don't believe in that. But, nonetheless... __________________ - Torment -

12-4-2004, 05:09 PM	#4
trillobyite FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 310	On this issue, after considering the philosophical and intellectual aspects, I have concluded in the supporting of the vampire hunter. The vampire is a ferocious beast who enjoys detaching and consuming the much needed transportation liquids of the homo sapien physical systems. His actions are revolting and should be looked at with a negative attitude. The vampire hunter, on the other hand, tends to be a ferocious human as well, with a lust for vengeance and murder. It is a common theme and concept within films that the protagonist should be, using the slang term, "badass," in that he has a second side to his personality which consists of a need for murder (which also hitns at the degradation of society, anothe rissue which should be put attention to at a later date). However, he attempts only to kill with weapons that he utilizes for death, such as the sword or bayonette, while the vampire enjoys administering a slow, painful death by, as I previously mentioned, cutting through a vital attachment center between the abdomen and head known as the neck. It is for that reason that I came to the conclusion that the hunter is more moral and humane than the monstrous vampire, the lesser of two evils. P.S. hehe im so formal __________________ Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lives here on a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam. http://obs.nineplanets.org/psc/pbd.html

12-4-2004, 05:10 PM	#5
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? give me documented fact. don't give me 1000 year old fairy tales. what IS fact is that there is a disease (i can't remember what its called) that requires tons and tons of blood in order to survive. more than that, i am unfamiliar with the side effects of this disease, but i'm 100% sure that immortality is not one of them. __________________ RIP

12-4-2004, 05:13 PM	#6
Snapps NO DOUBT GET LOUD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 5,650	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? I remember watching this thing on vampires and there is a clult that wants to be a vampire so much they get vampire teeth inserted into their teeth and bite everyones necks (thats in the club) for blood. I think they did this every week with the blood. And those teeth are permanently placed in their mouth.

12-4-2004, 05:19 PM	#7
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 39 Posts: 5,784	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? As far as the fake vampires go, I don't see anything wrong with them. I mean, honestly, if vampires were real I'd kinda wanna get bit. I don't go outside during the day much as it is, immortallity would be awesome, and I already think blood tastes good. Besides, I think I could live without garlic or wooden stakes being jabbed into my heart. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

12-4-2004, 05:20 PM	#8
Snapps NO DOUBT GET LOUD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 5,650	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? Yeah not sure why people are like omg blood is gross. Well when I get a cut I just drink up the blood to get it off.

12-4-2004, 05:24 PM	#9
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? Let's look at some stereotypical characteristics of Vampire Hunters and Vampire alike. Vampires - Pale complexion - Usually wear elegant garbs, adorned with a black/red cloak - Dislike Garlic, Cross/Crucifix, Sunlight - Can be slain only by a blessed stake through the heart - Sleep in coffins - Have rather large "fangs" - Cannot be seen in mirrors - Some are able to shift into and out of the form of a Bat Vampire Hunters - Usually scorned/out for revenge for a friend or family member they lost to a vampire - Use weapons such as daggers, whips, swords, and the like - Tend to come from a decent of vampire hunters - Can either be human or half-vampire (Ex. Dunpeal / "D") - Are usually aligned with God (Symbolism of Christianity/Catholicism through the Cross/Crucifix) __________________ - Torment -

12-4-2004, 05:28 PM	#10
Snapps NO DOUBT GET LOUD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 5,650	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? Vampire, I am: - Pale complexion - Usually wear elegant garbs, adorned with a black/red cloak - Dislike Garlic, Cross/Crucifix, Sunlight - Can be slain only by a blessed stake through the heart Vampire Hunter, I am: -none- uh oh spaghetti-o's

12-4-2004, 05:34 PM	#11
Torment FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101	RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? As a Vampire Hunter I am; - Use weapons such as daggers, whips, swords, and the like - Tend to come from a decent of vampire hunters (Hey, who knows?) - Can either be human or half-vampire (Ex. Dunpeal / "D") - Are usually aligned with God (Symbolism of Christianity/Catholicism through the Cross/Crucifix) __________________ - Torment -

12-4-2004, 06:05 PM	#13
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	RE: Re: RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? seperate diseases qreepy... but, my disease is real. also, if you are going to take about vampire weaknesses... be fair to all stories. silver also kills vampires. never been an anne rice or john carpenter fan... but, marvel comics are close to my heart. so, yea... Blade > All ps - i also don't go out much. but... garlic is awesome. __________________ RIP

12-4-2004, 06:14 PM	#14
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 35 Posts: 7,454	RE: Re: RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? Silver kills werewolves. Steaks (wooden) kill vampires. And my contidtion (not MY condition, but you know) is quite real. PS: A Week ago I ate a whole head of garlic. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

12-4-2004, 06:24 PM	#15
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	RE: Re: RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? i know. i'm familiar with your condition. also.... have you not seen Blade (or read the comics?). Silver kills vampires in the Blade series. silver, garlic, sunlight (not uv light), and EDTA (an anti-coagulent). stakes and crosses don't do anything. __________________ RIP

12-4-2004, 06:27 PM	#16
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 35 Posts: 7,454	RE: Re: RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? In Blade, perhaps. But I was thinking more about the whole Vlad the Impaler suspicions/history/etcetera kind of thing. Proven tactics, not comic book and movie tactics. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

12-4-2004, 06:34 PM	#17
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	RE: Re: RE: Vampire Hunter or Vampire - Who are you? I would be Alucard. He's technically a vampire hunter, but the best label for him would be badass. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

12-4-2004, 06:35 PM	#18
Eyes_Rutherford FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Age: 35 Posts: 43	The way how I think about vampires are through the Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice and the Movie Interview with the Vampire. I myself want to become a vampire but eh I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.snaps fingers shucks __________________

12-4-2004, 06:36 PM	#19
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 35 Posts: 7,454	BUFFY LOL. SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HHHHHHHHOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

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