Just wanted to say...

Omeganitros · 10-30-2004, 08:13 PM

What on Earth is up with that book Brave New World?

Why is it considered a great piece of literature?

How is an 8th Grader supposed to do an oral report on that damn thing?
Because I had to. But when I finished the book, I was like "WTF wuz teh point of taht???" so I switched to Raisin in the Sun at the last second.

Seriously, it's this nagging question that won't go away.

**lightdarkness** · 10-30-2004, 08:16 PM

Wait, are you in 8th grade?

And, no, never heard of the book, but all books suck anyways.

Omeganitros · 10-30-2004, 08:18 PM

No, I am not in 8th Grade.

GuidoHunter · 10-30-2004, 09:32 PM

I didn't like Brave New World. In fact, I hated it. I also think it's a bit above what eighth graders should be studying. Of course, the only reason to have read it is to understand allusions, and all you might ever need to know is the Alpha through Epsilon classes.

I also hated A Raisin in the Sun, so I think you lost both ways.

--Guido

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Omeganitros · 10-30-2004, 09:36 PM

Was Orgy Porgy an allusion? Maybe some sort of reference to the 60s? 'Cuz that was the most messed up part.

CStarFlare · 10-30-2004, 09:47 PM

I think I'm reading it this year for my 12th grade Novel class.

Is this Orgy Porgy thing as cool as it sounds?

AvantGarde · 10-30-2004, 09:53 PM

I appreciated the concept of A Brave New World. But the actual execution of the novel? Didn't admire that as much. Simply a matter of personal taste, didn't care for the way it was written. I like feeling connection the the characters in novels, and ABNW was too detached and theoretical for that to occur. Or something. I'm not making sense.

In general, the books that deserve praise don't seem to receive it, and other books inexplicably become classics. Way of the world.

10-30-2004, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omeganitros

Was Orgy Porgy an allusion? Maybe some sort of reference to the 60s? 'Cuz that was the most messed up part.

Brave New World was written in the 30s.

cutesaru18 · 10-31-2004, 08:48 AM

Brave New World Was a criticism of modern (at the time) American society. Huxley focused in on three main areas: sex (orgy porgy), drugs (soma), and status (Alpha through Epsilon classes as well). Those who were different (ie John and Bernard) were thought of as inferior. If you think about it, it still holds true today. I would write more, but I need to be someplace in a few minutes.

blahblah18 · 10-31-2004, 08:53 AM

Brave New World was an amazing novel, well over the head of 8th grade literature though... should be at least 11th grade, when you have at least had more of a historty background to see the corrolaries... same arguments go for Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984... 2 of the best books ever.. Raisin in the sun was alright for what it was supposed to portray, plus its fairly short, so if you didn't like it you're done quickly.

**Moogy** · 10-31-2004, 08:54 AM

1984 was better.

blahblah18 · 10-31-2004, 08:58 AM

Well 1984 is probably my favorite book ever, so yeah

dancedude11 · 10-31-2004, 08:58 AM

Animal Farm was a good piece of literature. It seemed kinda stupid walking around the school holding a book titled Animal Farm.

Anticrombie0909 · 10-31-2004, 12:46 PM

Animal Farm was good because it was concise. Orwell didn't beat around the bush, he went straight to the point. 1984 irritated me. The main core of the story (the book) was an excellent and thought provoking look into our own society. If he had written just that and published it, I would have been more impressed. Instead, it seemed like the entire story revolved around that book, like he had to rationalize its existance.

**nestlekwik** · 11-1-2004, 03:53 PM

I wish I could go back to the simple days of reporting on literature such as Roald Dahl. Now I'm stuck with things such as intrepreting and breaking down the schematics of The Red Wheelbarrow. Just try writing an eight-page paper over a poem that isn't even 20 words long. I somehow did it.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2004, 04:05 PM

i'm an Alpha... so its all cool.

i could also see myself as a Snowball, only my reign would lead to prosperity... not being attacked and killed by KGB dogs.

whorlichan · 11-1-2004, 10:12 PM

I despised the Red Wheelbarrow. Also the plum poem by the same guy. Memos written to your wife should not count as poetry.

Brave New World was an amazing novel. I read it twice before I realized it's probably the only futuristic book I've ever seen that has no mention at all of computers--that made me like it even more.

1984 I did not enjoy, mostly because I don't like rats. And it was eerie to me as a kid when I read it, and now the reality shows with their everpresent cameras have made many of its scariest parts a joke. But Animal Farm was awesome. By far one of the best books I've ever read.

Ack. I am not posting this after Tassel because I am following him around. It just happened that way. Honest.

emccky · 11-1-2004, 10:15 PM

i actually liked 1984

**sleeplessdragn** · 11-1-2004, 10:19 PM

ive always found it amazing how animal farm was able to smash such incredible meaning into so few pages. it left me gripped, but also wishing that there was more text to read.

The_Q · 11-1-2004, 10:24 PM

I read Animal Farm way back in 6th Grade. It's true. Communism requires a totalitarian government, and that defeats the philosophy right then and there. Damn.

Q

10-30-2004, 08:13 PM	#1
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 37 Posts: 8,897	Just wanted to say... What on Earth is up with that book Brave New World? Why is it considered a great piece of literature? How is an 8th Grader supposed to do an oral report on that damn thing? Because I had to. But when I finished the book, I was like "WTF wuz teh point of taht???" so I switched to Raisin in the Sun at the last second. Seriously, it's this nagging question that won't go away.

10-30-2004, 08:16 PM	#2
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 11,308	RE: Just wanted to say... Wait, are you in 8th grade? And, no, never heard of the book, but all books suck anyways. __________________

10-30-2004, 08:18 PM	#3
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 37 Posts: 8,897	RE: Just wanted to say... No, I am not in 8th Grade.

10-30-2004, 09:53 PM	#7
AvantGarde FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6	I appreciated the concept of A Brave New World. But the actual execution of the novel? Didn't admire that as much. Simply a matter of personal taste, didn't care for the way it was written. I like feeling connection the the characters in novels, and ABNW was too detached and theoretical for that to occur. Or something. I'm not making sense. In general, the books that deserve praise don't seem to receive it, and other books inexplicably become classics. Way of the world. __________________ It\'s only after you\'ve lost everything that you\'re free to do anything - Tyler Durden, Fight Club

10-31-2004, 08:48 AM	#9
cutesaru18 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 73	Brave New World Was a criticism of modern (at the time) American society. Huxley focused in on three main areas: sex (orgy porgy), drugs (soma), and status (Alpha through Epsilon classes as well). Those who were different (ie John and Bernard) were thought of as inferior. If you think about it, it still holds true today. I would write more, but I need to be someplace in a few minutes. __________________ The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

10-30-2004, 09:36 PM	#5
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 37 Posts: 8,897	Was Orgy Porgy an allusion? Maybe some sort of reference to the 60s? 'Cuz that was the most messed up part.

10-30-2004, 09:47 PM	#6
CStarFlare FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 231	I think I'm reading it this year for my 12th grade Novel class. Is this Orgy Porgy thing as cool as it sounds?

10-31-2004, 08:53 AM	#10
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	Brave New World was an amazing novel, well over the head of 8th grade literature though... should be at least 11th grade, when you have at least had more of a historty background to see the corrolaries... same arguments go for Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984... 2 of the best books ever.. Raisin in the sun was alright for what it was supposed to portray, plus its fairly short, so if you didn't like it you're done quickly. __________________ but for now... postCount++

10-31-2004, 08:54 AM	#11
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	1984 was better. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

10-31-2004, 08:58 AM	#12
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	Well 1984 is probably my favorite book ever, so yeah __________________ but for now... postCount++

10-31-2004, 08:58 AM	#13
dancedude11 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 47	Animal Farm was a good piece of literature. It seemed kinda stupid walking around the school holding a book titled Animal Farm. __________________ \" I think. . .therefore I get a headache\"

10-31-2004, 12:46 PM	#14
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	Animal Farm was good because it was concise. Orwell didn't beat around the bush, he went straight to the point. 1984 irritated me. The main core of the story (the book) was an excellent and thought provoking look into our own society. If he had written just that and published it, I would have been more impressed. Instead, it seemed like the entire story revolved around that book, like he had to rationalize its existance.

11-1-2004, 03:53 PM	#15
nestlekwik Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nestlekwikland, Ohio Age: 44 Posts: 2,317	I wish I could go back to the simple days of reporting on literature such as Roald Dahl. Now I'm stuck with things such as intrepreting and breaking down the schematics of The Red Wheelbarrow. Just try writing an eight-page paper over a poem that isn't even 20 words long. I somehow did it.

11-1-2004, 04:05 PM	#16
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	i'm an Alpha... so its all cool. i could also see myself as a Snowball, only my reign would lead to prosperity... not being attacked and killed by KGB dogs. __________________ RIP

11-1-2004, 10:12 PM	#17
whorlichan Tiny Plastic Meat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Valley, Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 669	I despised the Red Wheelbarrow. Also the plum poem by the same guy. Memos written to your wife should not count as poetry. Brave New World was an amazing novel. I read it twice before I realized it's probably the only futuristic book I've ever seen that has no mention at all of computers--that made me like it even more. 1984 I did not enjoy, mostly because I don't like rats. And it was eerie to me as a kid when I read it, and now the reality shows with their everpresent cameras have made many of its scariest parts a joke. But Animal Farm was awesome. By far one of the best books I've ever read. Ack. I am not posting this after Tassel because I am following him around. It just happened that way. Honest.

11-1-2004, 10:15 PM	#18
emccky Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: word Posts: 4,811	i actually liked 1984

11-1-2004, 10:19 PM	#19
sleeplessdragn ~Bang that beat Harder~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,321	ive always found it amazing how animal farm was able to smash such incredible meaning into so few pages. it left me gripped, but also wishing that there was more text to read. __________________

11-1-2004, 10:24 PM	#20
The_Q FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Age: 36 Posts: 4,391	I read Animal Farm way back in 6th Grade. It's true. Communism requires a totalitarian government, and that defeats the philosophy right then and there. Damn. Q

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