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This song seems to be extremely difficult in comparison to other songs in its difficulty. The song has very fast 8th jumpstreams and is just extremely fast in general. I compare this song to 2008, also a 51, and find 2008 to be much easier. I find the repeating switches between step and jump (like section where it's up then down/right for several measures) and in general the jumpstreams just seem unorthodox. It is also rather fast at 200bpm. I believe this file should be rated higher. I hope more people share this view, but if I am alone on this I trust your judgment.
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Join Date: May 2007
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those [24] [3] [24] [3] jumptrills are disgusting to hit, I won't lie.
But, 55 may be a bit of a stretch, I think 53 would fit nicely.
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53 / 54 but not 55 would be a slightly better fit.
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I actually think 51 fits, with a slight possibility of bumping it up to a 52. I remember thinking for a long time that there was no way it was a 51, but when I played it recently, I AAAed it first try. It's the hardest 51 in my opinion, but it could still stay there.
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yeah, 53 is good. keeps you on your toes, but isn't debatable VC territory
edit: then maybe 52
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I would say this song is VC because of the jumptrills. Being long and mostly easy doesn't make the hard part go away. It's a VC or close to it. Although I don't know where those start. I would be fine with 54. It's clearly harder than stuff like Megane De Ne and Dokudenpa but it's clearly not Over The Frail Dream or Animus. I vote for 54.
Then again, I tend to rate things based on AAA difficulty. Just playing it is nowhere NEAR a 55 like {Rose}.
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The song itself doesn't feel unreasonably tough, but personally, I found it extremely difficult to AAA. When I got it, it was one of the last few songs remaining for me in that difficulty range.
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God this song was impossible for me not to split on for the longest time. I always wondered why it was rated so low.
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Definitely 55 for me. Jumptrills are absurd, and I remember being a very weak player and struggling REALLY hard to FC that. Rose wasn't nearly as bad. And even today I find rose way easier considering how easy it is to split or go off timing.
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I had to play it again to get a good feel for it, and one thing is for certain: 51 certainly is not the right rating for this. The pattern choices are incredibly abrasive, split-heavy, and there is a very large presence of jump-chains which increase the difficulty to avoid boos. To make matters worse, the song is also somewhat fast paced.
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Sorry to gravedig a bit, but I felt like posting. I always had trouble with this song, even with one hand where splitting wasn't an issue and jumpchaining wasn't too tough, because of the speed. Right now I have even more trouble because I can't do two-hand jumps well yet (especially [13]2[13] patterns). Judging by some of my other ranks, I think 53 would be a decent rating, if not higher.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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It's full of xandertrax patterns so definitely not a 51, but VC is too high for it I think. Agreeing with the consensus that 53/54 feels right; of those, I'd say 53 is a closer fit - it feels more Rondo Alla Turca/HELLBEAT v2 than Scavenger/The Little Mermaid.
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I've always wondered why this and can-can were the hardest songs by far in their difficulties (50 and 51). Glad I'm not alone on this.
Def feels like a 53-54 to me, however; I've done some 60s that feel easier.
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I still feel like the rating fits, but its clear I'm in the minority lol...
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Majority seems to like 53, with a couple under and a few over. Changed to 53.
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