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Old 07-7-2004, 11:30 PM   #1
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It is my belief that Pornography is a vitalistic essentiality in our superduper modern society. Why? Well, besides the obvious, it also prevents pregnancy (not that having a baby is bad, but..You know, the whole "Overpopulation" thing), STDs, Rape, and god knows what else. So it's very good and important.

I did have a well-drawn statement all thought out about the advantages of Porn, but I forgot it before I could write it all down.
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Old 07-7-2004, 11:47 PM   #2
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Pornography can induce rape. People see something on their video/whatever, and they just feel that they have to try it. After so much, people will crave the real thing.
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Old 07-7-2004, 11:51 PM   #3
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With modernism comes amoralism. People are less inclined to do what doesn't benefit them, and so the 'good samaritan' is lost.

Pornagraphy promotes sexuality, and once sexuality is a habit, then those viewers are more inclined to view sex as more normal. Pregnancy goes up, not down.
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Old 07-8-2004, 12:03 AM   #4
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I believe both points are valid. Regardless of how it may seem to prevent pregancy, it can also promote pre-marital sex, rape, etc. But again I say both perspectives on this topic make logical sense
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"the obvious", as omega said, is the only reason porn is good...aside from being a living for a fair amount of people worldwide...people can have pretty good morals (not wanting to rape anyone, or not having pre-marital sex (although i don't fall under the second)), and still be able to live out fantasies, or fulfill a sexual thrill without really doing anything wrong...but basically, the obvious is the good in it...ugly/lonely people can watch porn and feel satisfied...and horny teens don't have to worry about pregnancy, as was stated...in our modern world, sex basically is in close to every facet of our lives...so i already feel the majority of people view sex as normal, especially most people who would be watching porn...
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Old 07-8-2004, 01:37 AM   #6
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Pornography can induce rape. People see something on their video/whatever, and they just feel that they have to try it. After so much, people will crave the real thing.
That's not the porno industries fault, it's the persons fault. I'm really sick and tired of people blaming something for someones actions. If there's someone so unmoralistic, and stupid enough to do something just because they seen it on TV, then I think THEY should get banned. (In other words, let the motherfuckers burn in hell or jail, or something bad.)
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Old 07-8-2004, 01:44 AM   #7
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It doesn't matter who's fault it is. Playing the blame game is worthless. It'll still happen.
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It doesn't matter who's fault it is. Playing the blame game is worthless. It'll still happen.
no....wrong...and i'm sick of people saying that "things will still happen", so we shouldn't worry about it...that's dumb...if someone contradicts me i'll respond...as it is now, i'm tired.
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It doesn't matter who's fault it is. Playing the blame game is worthless. It'll still happen.
no....wrong...and i'm sick of people saying that "things will still happen", so we shouldn't worry about it...that's dumb...if someone contradicts me i'll respond...as it is now, i'm tired.
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Old 07-8-2004, 09:20 AM   #10
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^Double post.

I agree with Cenright.
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Old 07-29-2004, 02:04 AM   #11
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I think Pornography can be a good thing, but only when it is used right. Porn about rape and other highly immoral activities can cause people to actually feel acceptance about the issue, which is completely the wrong direction. Anyone who developes a rape (or otherwise illegal sexual preference) fetish should seek help because wanting to rape some one is not part of a healthy sexuality. But anyone who rapes someone cannot blame porn because it was their decision. And being an avid pornologist (unofficially) i for one am happy with porn. I can take out all my sexual tensions and i dont have to hurt a fat girls feelings by not calling her the next day.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:09 PM   #12
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In truth, a higher birthrate is a GOOD thing. Screw overpopulation- that's the South Americans, Muslims, and Chinese (literally). In truth, many countries in the Western world do not have enough babies. The US is on the fringe of losing population, other countries like France are far below the number of babies needed to keep an increasing population. What happens then is that the influx of outsiders to fill the openings brings in a different culture and slowly begins to erradicate your culture. In the US, the Mexicans are threatening our culture; in Europe the Muslims are the invading culture. Anything that raises the birth rate is GOOD, assuming you wish for your culture to survive.
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Old 07-29-2004, 07:31 PM   #13
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not true, america is overpopulated. Not based on a land to population ratio, but on a waste/energy to population ratio. Americans use so much energy and create so much waste that we would have to be practically sterilzed to even it out. In 3rd world countries there is very little energy usage and waste, but there are larger families to compensate. so America and places like China are equally overpopulated. and i dont think mexicans are threatening american culture. maybe job availability. but not our culture.
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Old 07-30-2004, 04:48 PM   #14
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America isn't overpopulated on a waste or energy to population ratio. Most third world countries actually produce much more waste/person than we do. They use less efficient processes and create much more waste with less recycling.

Technically, Humans don't pollute enough to hurt on average, but it is the specific areas that need work. However, that just takes time and is NOT directly related to the number of Americans, but to the processes we use. Also, did you just call CHINA a 3rd world country? Besides being in the 2nd world [Asia], China has some places much more modern than America is, and has a much greater population. They have serious pollution issues that make America look like ultra-green liberals. As of yet the US does not have serious problems with energy, but the search for cheap energy for everything is always never ending. Besides, the high power usage is because of the technology people commonly use, and isn't that much higher than other similar countries.

As for the Mexicans, they are. However, the influx of the South American culture is moving from SW to NE, so I doubt it has reached you yet, but it is VERY easy to see when you visit areas in the SW. More importantly, if you look at the number of Americans and immigrants from South America, the immigrants # is growing and the Americans # is on the verge of decreasing.
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It is my belief that Pornography is a vitalistic essentiality in our superduper modern society. Why? Well, besides the obvious, it also prevents pregnancy (not that having a baby is bad, but..You know, the whole "Overpopulation" thing), STDs, Rape, and god knows what else. So it's very good and important.

I did have a well-drawn statement all thought out about the advantages of Porn, but I forgot it before I could write it all down.
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Old 08-1-2004, 06:00 PM   #16
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I did have a well-drawn statement all thought out about the advantages of Porn, but I forgot it before I could write it all down.
He must have forgotten while watching some porn...

And I agree with what one person said about not blaming porn for rape. If somebody is so easily influenced that watching some people get it on makes them HAVE TO get it on with somebody, then they are already messed up as it is. Porn didn't make them rape the person, their sick twisted mind did.

It is my belief that TV and movies shouldn't be blamed and attacked, but people should learn to control themselves and not be so easily swayed.

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In truth, a higher birthrate is a GOOD thing. Screw overpopulation- that's the South Americans, Muslims, and Chinese (literally).
Are you retarded!? What grade are you in, seriously?? It's a good thing that many Europeans have declining populations. Overpopulation is a BIG thing, seriously. The developed countries like the US and those in Europe have declining populations, which is good (and yes, the US has a rising population, but the birthrate is below 2 per couple (i forget the technical term, it's been all summer since AP Environmental) but we have so many immigrants that our population rises).

Also your statement that I quoted shows hints of racism. The Muslims? WTF is that supposed to mean, man? India's population is out of control, and I'm pretty sure they're Hindu.

I was gonna write more, but I had to run off to dinner and lost my train of thought. Seriously guys, don't try and make points unless you have real facts to back it up or if you REALLY know what you're talking about.
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Old 08-1-2004, 09:22 PM   #17
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So it's a GOOD thing is all of the developed countries disappear and only the undeveloped ones remain with populations far too large to sustain? Are you an IDIOT?

Next, as I said the US has a declining population of Americans- i.e. Non-Immigrants. That means that unless these people take on our culture as much as full-americans do, the american culture will slowly be washed out. The same is true for all the European countries that are suffering from declining population.

Racism? WTF are you talking about? The Muslims, yes, not the Hindus. I said the Muslims and I mean the Muslims- the territory that is primarily muslim people is having far too many children flat out and as the European populations are declining those people move in to fill the gaps and begin to create that "wash out" effect I mention in the US. Both France and Germany are examples of places that have made very strict rules to try to protect their culture (like France recently made a law that Muslim women are not allowed to wear their head coverings [I forgot the name]). Racism has abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING to do with the cultural migrations around the world. I seriously think you must be a fool if you think fact has anything to do with idiotic anger towards all individuals in a larger group- I have the former and not the latter.
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Old 08-1-2004, 10:36 PM   #18
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How did this turn into being not about porn? Well, I'll attempt to remedy that.

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And I agree with what one person said about not blaming porn for rape. If somebody is so easily influenced that watching some people get it on makes them HAVE TO get it on with somebody, then they are already messed up as it is. Porn didn't make them rape the person, their sick twisted mind did.
It's not that they "HAVE TO get it on with somebody", it's that they get off on the idea of forcing a girl (or, let's face it, these are some sickos, so let's include men as potential rapees) against their will.
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Old 08-1-2004, 11:20 PM   #19
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Rape porn is hot.
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Old 08-2-2004, 07:28 AM   #20
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Okay, so the immigrants are going to "wash away American culture," eh? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? The US is a nation of immigrants! This country was founded by immigrants, and what you're saying is total BS. That law you gave as an example, yeah, that's eliminating those Muslims' freedom of religion. You seem to be condoning such a law in France, so you must condone such things elsewhere. Are you suggesting that we eliminate freedom of religion?

Sir or madam, you sound about as crazy right now as those people who still think the "commies" are going to launch a nuke at us. Seriously, you can't reasonably say that overpopulation is a good thing. Because of overpopulation Earth is going to shit and people like you don't think we should do anything about it. You talk of "suffering from a declining population" when really a lowered population is a good thing. Fewer people means less pollution, which means a cleaner environment, which means we don't all die.

You act like an influx of immigrants would destroy a country. Throughout history there have been influxes of immigrants from all over the place. Right now the US is getting a lot of Mexicans. During that giant potato famine many Irish immigrants came. During times of political upheaval thousands of Europeans fled to America to stay safe. The 13 original colonies were all made using an influx of immigrants who came seeking oppurtunity or escape from religious persecution. An influx of immigrants does not destroy a country or its culture, but rather bolsters the country with a steady supply of workers and adds to the country's culture by bringing in fresh concepts which mix with existing ones and sometimes fuse to form new ideas and innovations. What you are saying is completely made up. Please, give me some sources for all these things you state. Also, it would be very nice to know how old you are and what classes you might have taken concerning these topics. Perhaps with that information you can prove that you are either ignorant or a moron and that you should just stop trying to argue with people who know vast ammounts more than you.

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And Afrobean I was talking about people who blame normal porn for "making" people go out and rape somebody. Hell, I don't even think watching rape porn "makes" you go rape somebody. I still stand by my statement that people who are so easily influenced already have problems, and we should focus on those problems, not whose to blame.


In other news: Moogy, you are correct. It is hot, where hot means illegal.
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