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Old 09-23-2012, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default Question about reading jumpstream

How do you guys read jumpstreams? Take the files makiba, or etude on a nimbus for example.. Do you somewhat focus more on when/where the jumps are, or do you just read the file "normally"? When it comes to jumpstreams, I myself tend to single out the jumps, and my brain just kinda processes the other notes.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:54 PM   #2
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i think i read the colors and match them in my head... i dont analyze it too much though or i mess up. i just notice 2 like colors and hit them at the same time
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:57 PM   #3
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I read the jumps as part of the stream. I might emphasize the jumps a bit, but I don't try to over-exaggerate them.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #4
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Default Re: Question about reading jumpstream

The jumps are more conspicuous to me, but I have a tendency to split them anyways. This is one of the major flaws I have.

Jumpstream with anchors and minijacks cause the biggest problems (especially with 2 framers) because of how much I rely on visual playing. The minijack stands out a lot more to me and that goes over the jump, and I tend to play by emphasizing certain sides (left side and right side).
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #5
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i think i read the colors and match them in my head... i dont analyze it too much though or i mess up. i just notice 2 like colors and hit them at the same time
this would help me if i wasnt color blind x_x but it does make sense
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:00 PM   #6
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Play SM, and try putting the skin on "note." Play a crap ton of JS, but while playing them really pay attention to the patterns and jumps. The only way to get good at something is to keep practicing it.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:00 PM   #7
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At first you focus more on jumps, after enough practice it becomes a second-nature. The same thing can happen with handstream. It's just adaptation until you can do it without paying too much attention to them. The more you get used to it, the easier it should be.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:02 PM   #8
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Same way you've learned to read any other type of pattern. Just do it and don't overwhelm yourself trying to analyze it.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:08 PM   #9
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Default Re: Question about reading jumpstream

the most obvious answer to improve reading jumpstream is to practice jumpstream.. i was just curious to see if anyone else has a certain way of reading it differently from other patterns. I dont really read other patterns different, but when they are jumpsteams, like i had mentioned above, i tend to let the jumps stand out more then anything.

edit: this post kinda sounds like i was bitching/complaining about the replies.. dont take it that way lol
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:27 PM   #10
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:31 PM   #11
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lol first person/thing that pops into my head when i read/hear the word jumpstream.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:32 PM   #12
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:36 PM   #13
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Try to do the opposite. Read the stream and ignore the jumps mentally. It's going to help you keep consistency on long term and the same can be said with any patterns. Example: You play black key etude, it's just stream with random mini-jacks. If you focus too much on mini-jacks you will probably get random goods on the stream because your attention will be distracted for like 0.1 second. It's better to keep concentration to everything in general than one specific pattern. Practice is only useful to be able to do any kind of pattern while staying consistent.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:37 PM   #14
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I try to look for 1212 and 3434 parts to help with more dense jumpstream. Once I notice one of those parts then I look at the other side and focus on those notes.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:38 PM   #15
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The way I learned JS will probably seem weird, but it works. (At least you won't have issues with BNS because ALL files will be like that.)

First, get into the mind of the sim author. What are they putting the jumps to? This clearly doesn't work with dump files, but 99% of the time it should get you by. Once you figure out what's getting the added steps, emphasize the jumps a little more to make sure that your taps stay consistent.

I've always had a bit of an issue with loud keytaps, so I work on listening to my taps during middle-speed streams for consistency and regularity, again taking care to emphasize the jumps. This is pretty much what happened during my AAA run of Makiba, though fluking the minijacks was certainly a factor as well.

This tends to fall apart in situations where there's more than one jump per measure, however--stuff like Chaosmaid comes to mind.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:41 PM   #16
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Default Re: Question about reading jumpstream

For me, jumpstream is like, "If not there, then where?" kinda thing. If I have a [13] jump, then obviously 2 or 4 will be the next note, or else it would be a jack and I immediately see it.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:42 PM   #17
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Try to do the opposite. Read the stream and ignore the jumps mentally. It's going to help you keep consistency on long term and the same can be said with any patterns. Example: You play black key etude, it's just stream with random mini-jacks. If you focus too much on mini-jacks you will probably get random goods on the stream because your attention will be distracted on that crucial 0.1 second that matters. It's better to keep concentration to everything in general than one specific pattern. Practice is only useful to be able to do any kind of pattern while staying consistent.
i do this alot actually.. and your example of black key etude is spot on with the mini jacks because they make me tense up knowing they are coming, which results in me freaking out trying to make sure i hit them correctly. although its a bit different as far as jumpstream goes. when i come across jumpstream i dont really freak out, or tense up.. the only times i do end up working my self up is for patterns that are extremely difficult for me to hit.. like the mini jacks in bke, or the trill in its only natural.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:50 PM   #18
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It's only natural trill is another story. That trill start at a constant speed and speed up at the end with 16th yellow notes into a grace note to finish. The moment you know where exactly it's speeding up and why you're getting random goods, it's a lot easier to fix them.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:51 PM   #19
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My suggestion would be analogous to igotrhythm's suggestion of trying to understand the music. Simply listening to the song before playing it will help immensely. Combine that with pattern recognition and density/location of arrows (since the arrow colors won't help you), and you can better mentally prepare what to hit and when.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:52 PM   #20
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I usually try to pay attention to the colors really well and I try to emphasize the first note of every beat (every red note in a sequence of red-yellow-blue-yellow) so I can make sure I'm not falling behind or speeding past the beat. Doesn't work too well with songs like Kidney Stone though, with only red and blue, or songs where the jumps in the jumpstream are more sporadic.
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