Website Design Hell

**hi19hi19** · 02-13-2013, 10:53 AM

I am designing a website. The person who designed this company's existing website clearly had no idea what she was doing.

Each of these 2.604 Web folders has around a dozen files in it, and the files are not copies. Some parts of the main page reference files that are all the way down in like the 12th nested folder for some godforsaken reason.
Now I have never actually done HTML myself so I too am learning as I go, but even I can tell this is not generally how you organize files.

This is going to take a long time.

Wayward Vagabond · 02-13-2013, 10:58 AM

lmao why even

also this reminded me of this comic http://xkcd.com/981/

Izzy · 02-13-2013, 11:06 AM

This looks like some kind of saving failure. I remember once in Eclipse programming IDE I did something to my current project folder and when I went to save it started infinite looping to save nested folders 10's of thousands of folders deep.

The hidden name for the folders were so long i couldn't delete the root of it within windows because ntfs file system didn't understand how to deal with it.

The point is I don't think that file hierarchy was intentional.

**Riotpolice** · 02-13-2013, 11:09 AM

That looks a lot like a cluster fuck to me....

**hi19hi19** · 02-13-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

This looks like some kind of saving failure. I remember once in Eclipse programming IDE I did something to my current project folder and when I went to save it started infinite looping to save nested folders 10's of thousands of folders deep.

The hidden name for the folders were so long i couldn't delete the root of it within windows because ntfs file system didn't understand how to deal with it.

The point is I don't think that file hierarchy was intentional.

Yeah I think it's a quirk of Dreamweaver (the program she used)
Definitely not intentional, but I still have to clean it up >_<

**rushyrulz** · 02-13-2013, 11:21 AM

holy directories batman

**Coolboyrulez0** · 02-13-2013, 11:53 AM

Gosh, that's gross. Have fun cleaning up :)

**Reincarnate** · 02-13-2013, 12:46 PM

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

**Pseudo Enigma** · 02-13-2013, 03:31 PM

god damn folderception going on in there. good luck man

**Ohaider** · 02-13-2013, 07:40 PM

the fuck haha

trumaestro · 02-13-2013, 09:22 PM

Just start from scratch. It'd probably be quicker and easier.

**hi19hi19** · 02-13-2013, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumaestro

Just start from scratch. It'd probably be quicker and easier.

I did with the HTML, but there are assets in there that I had to find (mostly images) so I wound up spending most of today just sorting through. Got it done though :)

**Micah_** · 02-13-2013, 10:35 PM

This reminds me of my CGI Programming Professor's Apache Server. He had to have had 200+ directories with sub directories that made NO SENSE. I feel your pain.

**UserNameGoesHere** · 02-14-2013, 06:08 AM

I feel for you. I'm also laughing my ass off.

Good you got it done though.

**qqwref** · 02-14-2013, 09:20 AM

Haha, oh god. This reminds me of this one time I was at a summer camp >10 years ago, doing some basic Visual Basic game design class, and I decided to take a look at the camp's website. The HTML was a massive clusterfuck, more than an order of magnitude bigger than it needed to be, and obviously saved in Microsoft Word (which, if you don't know, used to have a habit of using obscure syntax to clarify every possible option for every different piece of text, even when almost everything was default). It baffled me that a camp that offered a web design class could be so inept.

**hi19hi19** · 02-14-2013, 09:39 AM

Day 2:

So I open up one of the existing pages to see if I can salvage any code. To my surprise the raw code is LITERALLY 10,000 lines long. Apparently whoever coded it decided putting 100 lines of blank space between each line of code was a great idea. Because you know that makes it more readable or something.

I have heard of a solution to this, I can just use find/replace with a regular expression to find all the line breaks and replace with \n!
WRONG.

The blank space is not actual line breaks, it's spaces. From the spacebar. Good old &# 32;
Which means somehow between each line of code is 100 lines worth of holding down the spacebar.

Yeah I don't know either.

**Mollocephalus** · 02-14-2013, 10:21 AM

I'm not even into programming and i laughed my ass off imagining this person holding the spacebar for minutes... it's like those people who write "letter - space - letter - space - letter - space" cause they want their text to be wider

**Coolboyrulez0** · 02-14-2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Day 2:

So I open up one of the existing pages to see if I can salvage any code. To my surprise the raw code is LITERALLY 10,000 lines long. Apparently whoever coded it decided putting 100 lines of blank space between each line of code was a great idea. Because you know that makes it more readable or something.

I have heard of a solution to this, I can just use find/replace with a regular expression to find all the line breaks and replace with \n!
WRONG.

The blank space is not actual line breaks, it's spaces. From the spacebar. Good old &# 32;
Which means somehow between each line of code is 100 lines worth of holding down the spacebar.

Yeah I don't know either.

I can't breathe. Please keep a daily log of this because this is absolutely golden.

**gold stinger** · 02-14-2013, 11:27 AM

golden man just golden

would probably take less time to make World Tour using just the .sm file and a notepad.

**Reincarnate** · 02-14-2013, 11:27 AM

I hope you didn't fix that problem manually, hi19hi19 -- that can still be automated easy

02-13-2013, 10:53 AM	#1
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Website Design Hell I am designing a website. The person who designed this company's existing website clearly had no idea what she was doing. Each of these 2.604 Web folders has around a dozen files in it, and the files are not copies. Some parts of the main page reference files that are all the way down in like the 12th nested folder for some godforsaken reason. Now I have never actually done HTML myself so I too am learning as I go, but even I can tell this is not generally how you organize files. This is going to take a long time. __________________

02-13-2013, 10:58 AM	#2
Wayward Vagabond Confirmed Heartbreaker Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 35 Posts: 5,858	Re: Website Design Hell lmao why even also this reminded me of this comic http://xkcd.com/981/

02-13-2013, 11:06 AM	#3
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 34 Posts: 9,192	Re: Website Design Hell This looks like some kind of saving failure. I remember once in Eclipse programming IDE I did something to my current project folder and when I went to save it started infinite looping to save nested folders 10's of thousands of folders deep. The hidden name for the folders were so long i couldn't delete the root of it within windows because ntfs file system didn't understand how to deal with it. The point is I don't think that file hierarchy was intentional.

02-13-2013, 11:21 AM	#6
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: Website Design Hell holy directories batman __________________

02-13-2013, 11:53 AM	#7
Coolboyrulez0 VICES Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Age: 30 Posts: 10,031	Re: Website Design Hell Gosh, that's gross. Have fun cleaning up :)

02-13-2013, 12:46 PM	#8
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Website Design Hell http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

02-13-2013, 03:31 PM	#9
Pseudo Enigma ごめんなさい　(/ω＼) Join Date: Aug 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 2,290	Re: Website Design Hell god damn folderception going on in there. good luck man

02-13-2013, 07:40 PM	#10
Ohaider FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 2,893	Re: Website Design Hell the fuck haha __________________

02-13-2013, 09:22 PM	#11
trumaestro I don't get no respect Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 1,332	Re: Website Design Hell Just start from scratch. It'd probably be quicker and easier.

02-13-2013, 10:35 PM	#13
Micah_ FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 196	Re: Website Design Hell This reminds me of my CGI Programming Professor's Apache Server. He had to have had 200+ directories with sub directories that made NO SENSE. I feel your pain. __________________

02-14-2013, 09:20 AM	#15
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Website Design Hell Haha, oh god. This reminds me of this one time I was at a summer camp >10 years ago, doing some basic Visual Basic game design class, and I decided to take a look at the camp's website. The HTML was a massive clusterfuck, more than an order of magnitude bigger than it needed to be, and obviously saved in Microsoft Word (which, if you don't know, used to have a habit of using obscure syntax to clarify every possible option for every different piece of text, even when almost everything was default). It baffled me that a camp that offered a web design class could be so inept. __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

02-14-2013, 09:39 AM	#16
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Website Design Hell Day 2: So I open up one of the existing pages to see if I can salvage any code. To my surprise the raw code is LITERALLY 10,000 lines long. Apparently whoever coded it decided putting 100 lines of blank space between each line of code was a great idea. Because you know that makes it more readable or something. I have heard of a solution to this, I can just use find/replace with a regular expression to find all the line breaks and replace with \n! WRONG. The blank space is not actual line breaks, it's spaces. From the spacebar. Good old &# 32; Which means somehow between each line of code is 100 lines worth of holding down the spacebar. Yeah I don't know either. __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-14-2013 at 09:41 AM..

02-14-2013, 10:21 AM	#17
Mollocephalus Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Italy Age: 35 Posts: 2,600	Re: Website Design Hell I'm not even into programming and i laughed my ass off imagining this person holding the spacebar for minutes... it's like those people who write "letter - space - letter - space - letter - space" cause they want their text to be wider __________________

02-14-2013, 11:27 AM	#20
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Website Design Hell I hope you didn't fix that problem manually, hi19hi19 -- that can still be automated easy

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