Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?

[XxMidigamixX]

My comp causes SM5 to crash before it even starts up. So the most recent I use was scc, and even then it was a pain to get the configuration settings done properly. Personally, sm5 is rubbish (I mean come oj, wouldn't you say that if it crashes before even starting up?) I stick to 3.9 because it is the most stable version of SM that I have played throughout the 6 years that I have been playing SM. I understand that the devs are improving sm each and every time, but for stability's sake, 3.9 all the way...

[bmah]

I'm just used to 3.9 and I don't feel I need more than that for now. Also, I'm currently making some xmod files in 3.9. If I made xmod files in 5.0, new features such as warps would not be compatable for users with older versions of SM. Even though xmod effects are features rather than bugs in 5.0, accessibility is reduced for those trying to play it in 3.9/3.95 or other versions.

[TwistedPhoenix]

Originally Posted by bmah

I'm just used to 3.9 and I don't feel I need more than that for now. Also, I'm currently making some xmod files in 3.9. If I made xmod files in 5.0, new features such as warps would not be compatable for users with older versions of SM. Even though xmod effects are features rather than bugs in 5.0, accessibility is reduced for those trying to play it in 3.9/3.95 or other versions.

This is part of it. If people moved on, there wouldn't be a need to make files compatible for the older versions.

[bmah]

True. I just haven't seen such a movement yet, so the userbase largely remains in 3.9/3.95 still and I'm not inclined to do warps and stuff until people flock over. Making xmod files in 3.9 is not easy.

[Choofers]

I had to downgrade to 3.9 because this laptop is shit.

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by bmah

I'm just used to 3.9 and I don't feel I need more than that for now.

seems to be the consensus pretty much. that's fine, but why not be bold and daring and give the new version a whirl? you can even keep both versions handy. the burden on your hard drive can even be kept to a minimum thx to the advent of song directory linkage. (appdata > roaming > sm5 > save > Preferences.ini > AdditionalSongFolders)

Originally Posted by bmah

Also, I'm currently making some xmod files in 3.9. If I made xmod files in 5.0, new features such as warps would not be compatable for users with older versions of SM. Even though xmod effects are features rather than bugs in 5.0, accessibility is reduced for those trying to play it in 3.9/3.95 or other versions.

it's a two-way street, right? as in, neg bpm tricks from 3.9x don't work on 5.0? I tried playing ap's Tranzport a while ago. crashed my sm5 I think. it's too bad that such xmod excitement has to be catered to one crowd or the other. to be honest though, I think a lot of the same people who would be willing to switch from their precious cmods (lol) are the same people who made the jump to sm5.

ok that's a total conjecture actually. I wonder if there are any usage statistics out there? maybe a poll here on FFR concerning 3.9x vs 5 users would be insightful.



edit: I CAN USE SM5 NOW HOORAY

for those looking for theme and noteskin alternatives on sm5:
noteskins - http://jousway.co.uk/Unlimited_Stepm..._Noteskin/SM5/
themes - http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Download_Themes (i'm an idiot)

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

I'm still gonna use dream to step but honestly it's just not as neat looking as any 3.95 theme I've ever used. I don't remember what it was when I play using it but something drove me to say I didn't like it, but can't remember what it was.

[kommisar]

actually, sm 3.9 and up neg bpm tricks work on sm5. I tried tranzport in sm5a2 and it worked fine.


sm5 also recognizes bpms over 1million so trying to do combo holds doesn't work anymore (but it doesn't matter because there's an option for combo holds anyways)

[wildfireskunk]

I'm get a massive boner over ITG, so until someone releases an accurate ITG theme for SM5 I'm sticking to SM3.95

[bmah]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

seems to be the consensus pretty much. that's fine, but why not be bold and daring and give the new version a whirl? you can even keep both versions handy.

I'm not against SM5 by any means. It just never was on my priority list. If I downloaded it, I would indeed keep both versions.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

it's a two-way street, right? as in, neg bpm tricks from 3.9x don't work on 5.0?

Nope, it goes one way: negative bpm tricks made in 3.9 works in 5.0, but not the other way around. That's why I mentioned accessibility earlier.

[Gundam-Dude]

people just use what they're comfortable with using

same argument can be applied to sm editor vs ddream (in b4 incredible bias from kommi)

[~Zeta~]

nothing wrong with 3.9 so why bother.

[who_cares973]

my GPS on sm5 is garbage. yes I've tried lowering the setting until everything just a blur.yes I've tried different themes.yes I've tried different rations. no nothing works

if everything would've been gone and dandy I would've been using it by now since I was and still am an sm-ssc supporter

[rushyrulz]

because I prefer the layout of 3.9 and 3.95.

[eastsideman09]

Just recently switched to SM5. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyy better. Like so much better.

[xVaLoRx]

Been using sm5 since jan '11 and never going back

[leonid]

Originally Posted by megamon88

Used sm-ssc until quite recently, but it's pretty similar to sm5. I like both better than the older verisons.



What's wrong with the editor? I like it better than 3.9/3.95.

- You need to set custom speedmods for the playtest mode ANOTHER TIME by changing a different file (not documented of course)
- You can't set cmods in the editor mode (you can in the playtest mode)
- Making the editor mode downscroll is NOT as simple as turning on "Reverse" after pressing Esc.
- Lowering rates makes the sound all choppy, making it difficult to step.
- Syncing on lower rates becomes offsync on 1.0x for some reason (I used to do the same in 3.9 and it synced just fine)
- It's a pain in the ass if you want to make an xmod file and make it compatible with the older version, because sometimes the bpm and stop changes do NOT get saved in .sm files
- There's this bug where the playtest mode just stops and never moves. If you keep trying, the music will be played multiple times all overlapping each other and shit, and will not stop. You need to restart stepman in this case.
- Switching between difficulties plays the main theme sound (the one that plays in the main menu when you launch stepman) and there is no way to stop it.

[MinaciousGrace]

ok ima put this in all caps because it ****ing bugs the hell out of me

WHEN I CUSTOM RESIZE THE ****ING PLAYING WINDOW IT DOESN'T SAVE AND I HAVE TO ****ING RESIZE IT EVERY ****ING TIME I WANT TO PLAY

so **** you sm5 peace

capsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfoddercapsfodder

e: thats pretty much the only reason i don't use it (apart from 500 fps cap)

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by leonid

- There's this bug where the playtest mode just stops and never moves. If you keep trying, the music will be played multiple times all overlapping each other and shit, and will not stop. You need to restart stepman in this case.

a million times this
#1 reason why i hung on to 3.9
now I use DDReam for 90% of stepping but still, if i have to use sm editor i'm not using obnoxious 5.0 version lol

[kommisar]

ddream makes files unfun and ruins them



this is a proven fact