What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? - Page 2

**Xception704** · 08-18-2007, 04:11 PM

That's probably because they want Hentai from you. xD

~HentaiXXX~ · 08-18-2007, 04:27 PM

Yes, there have been a few, but I just say, "Google is your friend". >.>

Litodude · 08-18-2007, 04:30 PM

GamerShadow · 08-18-2007, 04:43 PM

I have 40+ profile votes, and I am not known as a good FFR player, a tokentard, or even a regular. I am a nobody, yet profile vote whores vote me up (Unless I vote them down cause they're being disrespectful to others.)

group xtreme · 08-18-2007, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

antixdied is hawt

LOL @ me knowing her in real life xD

I'm currently dating her best friend. <__<

But yeah. She's taken btw. :P

And profile votes are pointless. :P

OrganisM · 08-18-2007, 09:33 PM

My point is that, as I see it

any traffic =! good traffic.

So it's good to build traffic off of profile whores who end up doing nothing but taking up bandwidth and raising your costs? The idea of profile votes is a perfectly sound one, but the reality is that it really doesn't end up contributing anything and ends up making you guys pay for it. damanwithdaskillz (however you spell it) is the type of person who would thrive off of this sort of system, not a genuine contributor or part of the community. All I've seen is him talking about either tokens, or how important this or that makes him. Your goal is to make him feel more important? All it does is annoy the rest of us, as far as I can tell.

There's always a problem when incentive is added for doing something. A good example is spamming for gold on Gaia (which is most of the site's traffic, like it or not), or spamming on IGN to get more pretty stars next to your name. It's a good thing we don't have incentives for higher post count or posting higher volume, or you'd see the volume of the posts rise and the quality rapidly decrease. With the profile votes, it's not genuinely increasing activity, it's just adding kb to your bill. It shows up in increased numbers, but not in the community. In the MySpace context, there's nothing more dislikable than a friend-whore.

Look at my profile, I've done a lot with it. I spent time in Photoshop making a nice banner that matched my avatar, and used the exact hexadecimals from my image for the profile background colors. And do you see me going and voting everybody's profile up and down and commenting asking for a reciprocal vote (because I did it for you, not because you like my profile) or telling you how nice your profile is and what a desirable and interesting person you are (despite not knowing you, and only for the purpose of tempting you into giving me another profile vote)?

There are many other ways to critique profiles, including contests. Another thing that could be done is have a meter from 1-100 that starts out at 50 and depending upon ratio of good to bad votes goes up or down, instead of showing a total number that people keep trying to spam up.

I know it's apparently not my place to say this, but you can't say that I should shut up because it's free, since I subscribe and genuinely wish to help improve the site.

madmatt621 · 08-18-2007, 09:40 PM

People give me votes without telling me to give any back. That's fine with me.

**Xception704** · 08-18-2007, 09:48 PM

Yeah ... me too.

OrganisM · 08-18-2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatt621

People give me votes without telling me to give any back. That's fine with me.

It could be with the unspoken hope that you'd do the same, though that's hard to say.

And it may not affect you personally, but it's happening, and I think it's happening way too often.

ShAiOnEi · 08-18-2007, 10:09 PM

I voted for all of you.

D.J. Cristo · 08-18-2007, 10:26 PM

It's so we have a way to compare how so little Americans vote for their own president rather than for the quality of friends' (or complete strangers') profiles.

OrganisM · 08-18-2007, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Cristo

It's so we have a way to compare how so little Americans vote for their own president rather than for the quality of friends' (or complete strangers') profiles.

Nah, we already know people don't care enough to vote.

KKKEEENNN · 08-18-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrganisM

Another thing that could be done is have a meter from 1-100 that starts out at 50 and depending upon ratio of good to bad votes goes up or down, instead of showing a total number that people keep trying to spam up.

Actually, I like that idea. I hope that comes into play in FFR one day.

Problems · 08-18-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic

antixdied is hawt

I'm sorry, but we have some wonderful consolation prizes.

OrganisM · 08-18-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Problems

I'm sorry, but we have some wonderful consolation prizes.

Yeah, he can have jchinzilla.

Litodude · 08-19-2007, 01:41 AM

Take a second to edit your profile.

As in, add a period or something.

Watch your profile jump to the top of the "Recently Updated Profiles" side bar thing.

Let the FFRspace whores come out to play.

OrganisM · 08-19-2007, 01:55 AM

I've seen it, I know. I just don't like it.

JurseyRider734 · 08-19-2007, 05:57 AM

I just find it funny how offended people get if you downvote them.

**-paexaea-** · 08-19-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

I just find it funny how offended people get if you downvote them.

brb downvoting jurs for pure emphasis.

lol wut

OrganisM · 08-19-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -paexaea-

brb downvoting jurs for pure emphasis.

lol wut

Ouch, that's harsh.

08-18-2007, 04:11 PM	#21
Xception704 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 3,984	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? That's probably because they want Hentai from you. xD

08-18-2007, 04:27 PM	#22
~HentaiXXX~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spalding, Nebraska, USA Age: 31 Posts: 2,955	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? Yes, there have been a few, but I just say, "Google is your friend". >.>

08-18-2007, 04:43 PM	#24
GamerShadow FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In my Dungeon Age: 32 Posts: 2,534	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? I have 40+ profile votes, and I am not known as a good FFR player, a tokentard, or even a regular. I am a nobody, yet profile vote whores vote me up (Unless I vote them down cause they're being disrespectful to others.) __________________ Note to self Finish.

08-18-2007, 09:33 PM	#26
OrganisM FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nesoi, Olympus System Posts: 2,644	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? My point is that, as I see it any traffic =! good traffic. So it's good to build traffic off of profile whores who end up doing nothing but taking up bandwidth and raising your costs? The idea of profile votes is a perfectly sound one, but the reality is that it really doesn't end up contributing anything and ends up making you guys pay for it. damanwithdaskillz (however you spell it) is the type of person who would thrive off of this sort of system, not a genuine contributor or part of the community. All I've seen is him talking about either tokens, or how important this or that makes him. Your goal is to make him feel more important? All it does is annoy the rest of us, as far as I can tell. There's always a problem when incentive is added for doing something. A good example is spamming for gold on Gaia (which is most of the site's traffic, like it or not), or spamming on IGN to get more pretty stars next to your name. It's a good thing we don't have incentives for higher post count or posting higher volume, or you'd see the volume of the posts rise and the quality rapidly decrease. With the profile votes, it's not genuinely increasing activity, it's just adding kb to your bill. It shows up in increased numbers, but not in the community. In the MySpace context, there's nothing more dislikable than a friend-whore. Look at my profile, I've done a lot with it. I spent time in Photoshop making a nice banner that matched my avatar, and used the exact hexadecimals from my image for the profile background colors. And do you see me going and voting everybody's profile up and down and commenting asking for a reciprocal vote (because I did it for you, not because you like my profile) or telling you how nice your profile is and what a desirable and interesting person you are (despite not knowing you, and only for the purpose of tempting you into giving me another profile vote)? There are many other ways to critique profiles, including contests. Another thing that could be done is have a meter from 1-100 that starts out at 50 and depending upon ratio of good to bad votes goes up or down, instead of showing a total number that people keep trying to spam up. I know it's apparently not my place to say this, but you can't say that I should shut up because it's free, since I subscribe and genuinely wish to help improve the site. __________________ . Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]: "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee, because the venom gets into the blood stream which spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body... changing your genetic structure into a bee's. Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way." Originally Posted by MrRubix[link]: "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?" Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]: "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually." Last edited by OrganisM; 08-18-2007 at 09:37 PM..

08-18-2007, 09:40 PM	#27
madmatt621 Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 29°34′7″N, 95°1′21″W Age: 35 Posts: 3,000	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? People give me votes without telling me to give any back. That's fine with me.

08-18-2007, 09:48 PM	#28
Xception704 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 3,984	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? Yeah ... me too.

08-18-2007, 10:09 PM	#30
ShAiOnEi FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,109	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? I voted for all of you. __________________ I love my son Auron Epic thread killer

08-18-2007, 10:26 PM	#31
D.J. Cristo FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Illinois Age: 32 Posts: 246	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? It's so we have a way to compare how so little Americans vote for their own president rather than for the quality of friends' (or complete strangers') profiles. __________________ "There are two kinds of people in this world: Right handed people and wrong handed people." -Me INDEX REPRESENT...BITCH [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] <=== Proud recipient of the "FFR Master's Degree." ("roflpwnt") Ricky-I never got my Faygo, God damnit! XD

08-19-2007, 01:55 AM	#37
OrganisM FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nesoi, Olympus System Posts: 2,644	Re: What is with profile votes? Why the hell do we have them? I've seen it, I know. I just don't like it. __________________ . Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]: "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee, because the venom gets into the blood stream which spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body... changing your genetic structure into a bee's. Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way." Originally Posted by MrRubix[link]: "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?" Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]: "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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