Coronavirus

[MixMasterLar]

County closing almoat everything
DeSantis is refusing ti close beaches because he wants that sweet sweet fucking tourist money. We're over 400 cases and the state is dicking about

My county is picking up the slack and posting copa everyone to keep people out of beaches. Most fiod joints are either close or take out only

My boss, being the age group that would insta die from this, has asked us all to just self quarantine with him and my mother (they have a house apiece on the same property basically) and it was either that or dont show to work

My job is technicallly medical so between freedom to catch viruses and never be paid and that offer, I accepted

Its day 2 and i hate myself

Originally Posted by Rebirth0

My job is at a convenience store and is apparently essential so its business as usual. 48 hours a week, "we will be there for our customers"

At least if I or anyone in my family gets anything they will pay entirely for the medical expenses and I get 100% paid sick leave for as long as it takes.

Rebirth its good to hear from you again but wish it was under better circumstances

[Panic4Me]

It's been a while... hope everyone is well.

Originally Posted by Rebirth0

My job is at a convenience store and is apparently essential so its business as usual. 48 hours a week, "we will be there for our customers"

At least if I or anyone in my family gets anything they will pay entirely for the medical expenses and I get 100% paid sick leave for as long as it takes.

I work at a convenience store in New Hampshire, not far from the Massachusetts border. We have gas, diesel, a coffee shop and deli, which sells sandwiches and sliced meats/cheeses. We are told we are "essential" during this pandemic. There is currently an "outbreak" that was reported at a high school just a few miles down the road. Local news reports are showing a handful of new cases confirmed in our county almost daily. Our corporate headquarters that calls all the shots is located in Texas. They haven't announced any plans to close, so it's business as usual.

A few of my coworkers will, without a doubt in my mind, die if they get this. We sanitize and clean EVERYTHING as often as possible but is that really enough? The fact that you can carry this for days without knowing has sent my anxiety into high gear the past couple weeks. I have had multiple anxiety attacks at work brought on by the thought of contracting this and possibly spreading it to, and ultimately killing, some of my coworkers. We joke that "If one of us has it, we all have it." which is why we all continue to show up for work. (Nobody has any symptoms) That, and the fact we need our paychecks. Unemployment is an option, but the system is being overwhelmed right now, so why bother when the job security is there?

I have been asthmatic since contracting RSV as an infant. I have been overweight most of my life, although I have improved my lifestyle and lost a considerable amount of weight over the past two years. I quit smoking cigarettes almost five years ago but still smoke marijuana daily. Everything I see on social media or the news says I should be afraid for my life right now. My boss tells us the media is blowing everything out of proportion and we will all be fine if we continue to follow careful sanitary procedures.

There is currently no shelter in place order. In an effort to slow the spread, people are being asked to stay home unless it is essential that they go out. Let me tell you.... I worked last night and more than half of my customers had no need to be there. Most people wandered through the store for 5-10 minutes with no clue what they wanted before finally checking out. A lot of them paid with cash. Some people sneezed/coughed without covering while others used their hands to wipe their noses. We have a sanitizer dispenser mounted to the outside of the front door which less than half of them used (probably less than a quarter, but I wasn't counting)

I am to the point that I sleep in gloves filled with lotion. My hands feel like scales because I wash and sanitize so often. My airways feel irritated, which I have been hoping (and reassured) is due to breathing sanitizing solution for most of my shifts. I have been monitoring my temperature daily and have so far been normal. I am as careful as I can be, but I am constantly interacting with people that are treating this like a big joke.

[Josemba]

Friend from Boston told me he saw lot of people buying guns wtf.

First case in my city and people went crazy, gasoline only for ambulances, delivery cars and pharmacies, toilet paper is gold, people are not buying masks because the cost (30 dollars only 10 masks), government increased the tax unit a 2000% and asking for help obviously they don't have money for this situation.

People not working and minimal salary is 5 dollars in Venezuela, this is a chaos lmao.

[Funnygurl555]

yeah I read that the dumb spring breakers are still spring breaking so some businesses wanna keep their beaches open

greedy selfish and dumb

[Rebirth0]

I don't really feel like these are bad circumstances. I'm not afraid of any of this whatsoever, and the fact that my job remains somewhat normal is fine with me. Just makes me money to buy stocks while they're down and take advantage of the "crisis."


MMR: wait what. so your job is medical related and your boss forced you to move to one of his properties because he thinks his property is aids free and if you didn't move you wouldn't have the job anymore?

Sounds like a lawsuit when this is all over.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Rebirth0

MMR: wait what. so your job is medical related and your boss forced you to move to one of his properties because he thinks his property is aids free and if you didn't move you wouldn't have the job anymore?

Sounds like a lawsuit when this is all over.

Medical is what I have to put on tax forms, but I'm basically an overglorified overnight babysitter.

Can almost promise you in Florida that is not a lawsuit; but yeah, the underlying implications were either do that or don't come in to work with possibility my services wouldn't be needed after this is over so he absolutely is playing hardball with us. My buddy Justice works for him too and turned the offer down, so we'll see what happens.

But you gotta realize my mom is here as well. She's his POA and they share like the same half acre of land (she bought his second house a few years ago) and he just wanted us to stay on site. It's not near as much of a bitch the quick story would have you believe and as much as she is stressing about it I would likely be over here anyway.

This way, I'm getting way more money then I normally would and since first posting here he informed me I'll have two weeks paid vacation so that's sexy.

I still hate myself though I'm use to living alone and not sharing space so much

[tosh]

Haven't technically lost my job, but on a 60 day furlough as a result of this.

In a good enough spot to weather it if need be, but would rather not so I guess I'm job searching.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by tosh

Haven't technically lost my job, but on a 60 day furlough as a result of this.

In a good enough spot to weather it if need be, but would rather not so I guess I'm job searching.

Best of luck to ya, the job search is pretty suckish over here.

Lots of people's businesses are being forcibly closed due to mandatory measures & actions from governments.

When it's 'only grocery stores, government support businesses, government structure buildings, and other jobs required to keep society working (such as post office, hospitals, or pharmacies); The large sum of people working minimum wage in non-essential positions are flooding the job market for the essential locations. It's completely backed up. Wal-mart where I live has told me to look elsewhere, as they have a queue of 50+ people with accepted resumes, waiting for a position. Can only assume it's like this elsewhere.

Really sucks for people living paycheck to paycheck. And depending on how long this epidemic lasts, it's going to put a fair amount of strain on multiple local governments across the world.

[i love you]

Hey guys. It's been a while.

I am currently self quarantined at my own house working from home. I got bored and thought I would check out this place. I hope the rest of you guys are doing alright.

[mi40]

all around me are familiar faces
worn out places, worn out faces

[awein999]

hey i love you good to hear from you and that you can work from home. stay safe!

[iCeCuBEz v2]

I work at Whole Foods and we have gotten a pretty much unlimited amount of overtime coupled with a temporary 2 dollar raise with overtime now being double. I’ve just been going to work and going home and working on school since school is all remotely done now for the rest of the semester. I’ve been getting things gradually to stock the apartment with necessities and groceries. We are pretty prepared for anything now. I’m more worried about the people than the virus itself.

[ULTIMEGA]

The whole fear about the virus I think has gotten way out of hand. Obviously, you all know about the toilet paper/paper towel crisis going on and people are panic buying that, as well as cheese, milk, meat products, and it's honestly disgusting to me. It literally gave me a reason to hate society in general. My mom works at Walmart and she keeps telling me about these people who just go in, grab their paper towels and bail, then turn around, come back in and try to buy more out of greed. It's wild as hell.

What pisses me off about the whole thing is the fact that these people who are doing the panic buying aren't leaving much of anything for the kids and the elderly. How fucked up do you have to be in the head to not care about your own kids, let alone your elders? These people need these things more than anyone else, the kids because they're still developing and need as much crucial nutrients as possible and the elderly because they can't bounce back like the rest of us can due to them being so old.

Even worse is that - and this is just speculation - the economy is tanking because of the virus, and from what I've seen companies are struggling to keep up with demand. It's ridiculous. The pandemic has put people in a blind panic and most of them are too blind to see the kind of economical damage they're causing. The two week quarantine that was ordered doesn't help much either, because people who are used to going out every day - which is roughly 80% of the global population - are freaking out because they don't know what it's like to live in isolation from everyone else.

So the way I see it, the whole virus thing is one of those apocalyptic things that people get mixed up because the virus isn't as deadly as people are making it out to be. It only really effects those who have weak immune systems, like the elderly or those with an immunodeficiency problem that makes them susceptible to even the most basic of viruses. If people would learn to not be blinded by the media who controls them and instead break away from it and learn to educate themselves, none of these problems would even be a concept to most of us. Since people in general are stupid, they jump the gun and make assumptions based on what the media tells them instead of doing the research themselves and calling bullshit, which is 90% of the problem and people don't realize this.

The whole thing is just a clusterfuck of unnecessary drama. I know I sound pretty disgruntled about this, but given what's been going on the last few weeks and not seeing much progress in making things better, I feel I have a reason to be. I can't just beat around the bush and say everything is fine because we all know it's not fine, and it's only going to get worse. And no one knows when the situation will get resolved if it ever does get resolved at all. I just hope people start waking up soon and maybe, MAYBE things will get a little better.

Anyway, that's my ten cents on the whole thing. My two cents? I got no reason to let you know about that because at this point, fuck it.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by ULTIMEGA

Even worse is that - and this is just speculation - the economy is tanking because of the virus, and from what I've seen companies are struggling to keep up with demand. It's ridiculous. The pandemic has put people in a blind panic and most of them are too blind to see the kind of economical damage they're causing. The two week quarantine that was ordered doesn't help much either, because people who are used to going out every day - which is roughly 80% of the global population - are freaking out because they don't know what it's like to live in isolation from everyone else.

So the way I see it, the whole virus thing is one of those apocalyptic things that people get mixed up because the virus isn't as deadly as people are making it out to be. It only really effects those who have weak immune systems, like the elderly or those with an immunodeficiency problem that makes them susceptible to even the most basic of viruses. If people would learn to not be blinded by the media who controls them and instead break away from it and learn to educate themselves, none of these problems would even be a concept to most of us. Since people in general are stupid, they jump the gun and make assumptions based on what the media tells them instead of doing the research themselves and calling bullshit, which is 90% of the problem and people don't realize this.

The whole thing is just a clusterfuck of unnecessary drama. I know I sound pretty disgruntled about this, but given what's been going on the last few weeks and not seeing much progress in making things better, I feel I have a reason to be. I can't just beat around the bush and say everything is fine because we all know it's not fine, and it's only going to get worse. And no one knows when the situation will get resolved if it ever does get resolved at all. I just hope people start waking up soon and maybe, MAYBE things will get a little better.

Anyway, that's my ten cents on the whole thing. My two cents? I got no reason to let you know about that because at this point, fuck it.

What an upsetting post.

I'll start by saying that the world economy may not necessarily be tanking because of the coronavirus, but rather that the coronavirus was the last straw. There are a number of other factors that are tanking the economy such as political rabbling over commodities such as oil (e.g. Saudi Arabia vs Russia) and especially things like debt from banks. Yes, people are in a panic, and rightfully so. I frequently see people mixing up "appropriate ways to respond to a crisis" (i.e. calm vs panic) with "dismissing the seriousness of the situation altogether." While I agree that the best way of handling the crisis is not through outright panic, let's not dismiss people's well-founded anxieties about what is to become a very uncertain future.

I commonly see your argument on "the coronavirus affecting only the elderly and compromised folks" on Facebook communities, and this argument is always extremely shortsighted. This is not one of those cases where dumb/ignorant people can take their own risk while leaving others unaffected (e.g. people deciding to stay home during a hurricane and not evacuating). The coronavirus situation demands EVERYONE'S cooperation, because even if you personally won't die or even become sick from it, you're still a perfectly susceptible host to the virus and can transmit it to others. How do people not see the logic in this???

In addition, more recent studies showed that the coronavirus is increasingly affecting young adults as well, in some places in excess of 50% of the local demographics. The virus affecting only the elderly and the compromised is now old news.

Finally, why would you be more concerned about verification of facts brought on by the media than your own health and safety? This isn't a time to politicize things. There are other issues you can afford to be skeptical about, but one that revolves around your personal health shouldn't be treated with skepticism. Even if this coronavirus was some sort of "media brouhaha" (which it is not), there is no harm in believing the warnings if it's a matter of health and safety. There's another case to be made about verifying facts instead of believing the media, but I think right now this is an issue of people not getting their priorities straight (or it may also be plain arrogance).

You're not seeing things progress better because the situation will get worse before it gets better - it's going to take some time. And it'll take longer if skeptics resist doing their part in stopping the spread of the virus.

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by bmah

What an upsetting post.

I'll start by saying that the world economy may not necessarily be tanking because of the coronavirus, but rather that the coronavirus was the last straw. There are a number of other factors that are tanking the economy such as political rabbling over commodities such as oil (e.g. Saudi Arabia vs Russia) and especially things like debt from banks. Yes, people are in a panic, and rightfully so. I frequently see people mixing up "appropriate ways to respond to a crisis" (i.e. calm vs panic) with "dismissing the seriousness of the situation altogether." While I agree that the best way of handling the crisis is not through outright panic, let's not dismiss people's well-founded anxieties about what is to become a very uncertain future.

I commonly see your argument on "the coronavirus affecting only the elderly and compromised folks" on Facebook communities, and this argument is always extremely shortsighted. This is not one of those cases where dumb/ignorant people can take their own risk while leaving others unaffected (e.g. people deciding to stay home during a hurricane and not evacuating). The coronavirus situation demands EVERYONE'S cooperation, because even if you personally won't die or even become sick from it, you're still a perfectly susceptible host to the virus and can transmit it to others. How do people not see the logic in this???

In addition, more recent studies showed that the coronavirus is increasingly affecting young adults as well, in some places in excess of 50% of the local demographics. The virus affecting only the elderly and the compromised is now old news.

Finally, why would you be more concerned about verification of facts brought on by the media than your own health and safety? This isn't a time to politicize things. There are other issues you can afford to be skeptical about, but one that revolves around your personal health shouldn't be treated with skepticism. Even if this coronavirus was some sort of "media brouhaha" (which it is not), there is no harm in believing the warnings if it's a matter of health and safety. There's another case to be made about verifying facts instead of believing the media, but I think right now this is an issue of people not getting their priorities straight (or it may also be plain arrogance).

You're not seeing things progress better because the situation will get worse before it gets better - it's going to take some time. And it'll take longer if skeptics resist doing their part in stopping the spread of the virus.

While I may be preaching to the choir here, a big part of the problem is the obsession of "facts not feelings" nonsense being spread on social media.

The "facts not feelings" is, in itself, hypocritical because people still force their own biases (whether they realize it or not). For example, saying that the flu last year affected millions of people and has more deaths than covid19 is doing at least the following:
- leaving out important information (covid19 has a higher fatality rate, has no vaccine, etc)
- is using total numbers as opposed to the significance of the disease (going back to not mentioning the fatality rate)
- shutting down something because the total numbers are not as high
- assuming people do not care about other diseases, when in fact this is not the case (flu, heart disease, and many other things are still a problem and covid19 is put on top of all that)
- not mentioning the fact that having more people hospitalized from covid19 means less hospital resources -- you don't want to exhaust medical resources

In other words, the bias here is that those people are forcing their bias of total numbers to try shutting down people, when in fact there are many other things to consider (resulting in information left out).

And when it comes to social media? Accuracy isn't important, nor is respect. What's important is saying something that gets attention. That is usually inflammatory and controversial posts -- and people who are able to post within the first few minutes and get upvoted and retweeted have a better chance of appearing at the top of the comments in the post. Social media algorithms that place these comments to the top are a big consideration as to why you see sites like Twitter operate the way they do today.

[rayword45]

Originally Posted by ULTIMEGA

The whole fear about the virus I think has gotten way out of hand. Obviously, you all know about the toilet paper/paper towel crisis going on and people are panic buying that, as well as cheese, milk, meat products, and it's honestly disgusting to me. It literally gave me a reason to hate society in general. My mom works at Walmart and she keeps telling me about these people who just go in, grab their paper towels and bail, then turn around, come back in and try to buy more out of greed. It's wild as hell.

What pisses me off about the whole thing is the fact that these people who are doing the panic buying aren't leaving much of anything for the kids and the elderly. How fucked up do you have to be in the head to not care about your own kids, let alone your elders? These people need these things more than anyone else, the kids because they're still developing and need as much crucial nutrients as possible and the elderly because they can't bounce back like the rest of us can due to them being so old.

Even worse is that - and this is just speculation - the economy is tanking because of the virus, and from what I've seen companies are struggling to keep up with demand. It's ridiculous. The pandemic has put people in a blind panic and most of them are too blind to see the kind of economical damage they're causing. The two week quarantine that was ordered doesn't help much either, because people who are used to going out every day - which is roughly 80% of the global population - are freaking out because they don't know what it's like to live in isolation from everyone else.

So the way I see it, the whole virus thing is one of those apocalyptic things that people get mixed up because the virus isn't as deadly as people are making it out to be. It only really effects those who have weak immune systems, like the elderly or those with an immunodeficiency problem that makes them susceptible to even the most basic of viruses. If people would learn to not be blinded by the media who controls them and instead break away from it and learn to educate themselves, none of these problems would even be a concept to most of us. Since people in general are stupid, they jump the gun and make assumptions based on what the media tells them instead of doing the research themselves and calling bullshit, which is 90% of the problem and people don't realize this.

The whole thing is just a clusterfuck of unnecessary drama. I know I sound pretty disgruntled about this, but given what's been going on the last few weeks and not seeing much progress in making things better, I feel I have a reason to be. I can't just beat around the bush and say everything is fine because we all know it's not fine, and it's only going to get worse. And no one knows when the situation will get resolved if it ever does get resolved at all. I just hope people start waking up soon and maybe, MAYBE things will get a little better.

Anyway, that's my ten cents on the whole thing. My two cents? I got no reason to let you know about that because at this point, fuck it.

Originally Posted by Trogdor!!!!

I also enjoy being a ladies' man, since I have a fair number of girlfriends. Most of them don't really talk to me much, but that doesn't really bother me at all. You might not believe this (and many of you won't) but I have a total of 36 girlfriends. (I know what you might be thinking: "There's just no way! You're obviously trippin' on somethin'." If I can get that many girlfriends, so can you.) I'm not just a ladies' man, either: I actually understand what a girl wants from a guy quite well; better than the average Joe. I also like to play hard-to-get sometimes, because a lot of the girls that I've met tend to do the same thing. In other words, I just play it cool. I'm also interested in trying out for a band, or starting a band of my own. I don't really know what you have to do for that, but I'll figure it out eventually. If it ever does happen, I'll be like wow.

also fuck nattydaddyvirus

[awein999]

firstly no this isn't only a threat to the weak and elderly and this pandemic is going to continue to get worse as the cases continue to grow exponentially and continue to overwhelm healthcare systems across the globe. i have family who work in the healthcare system and there are many facts not known about the virus even to experts as it's so novel which is scary. some known facts are: it is incredibly contagious, it is 10-15x more deadly than the flu. this is why we are socially distancing because this is growing exponentially.

secondly what's your point based on what you believe? fuck the elderly and the weak, lets continue business as usual and let ppl die?

the american media was downplaying it for months from january through early march until it suddenly hit and now it is a big deal obviously and justifiably it is getting 24/7 coverage. of course people are scared and it's not a shock people are, it's warranted. this is not drama, this is not unnecessary, this is not a drill, and this is not blown out of proportion. this will get a lot worse before it gets better.

[psychoangel691]

"Only affects the elderly and weak"

Tell that to the 30 something nurse who's been in ICU
The marathon runner in ICU
The healthy guy who thought he just had the flu is in his 40s in the ICU

I'm also sick of that argument cause fuck you, the elderly and weak matter too you know. I read about a woman who beat stage 4 breast cancer, that's fucking rare at only to die to this fucking virus leaving her kids behind.

We're at 14,461 deaths worldwide right now and while sure you can say well in comparison to the population that's a small percentage, but fuck you if you think those people's lives had no value. This is someone's parent, grandparent, child, uncle, aunt, sibling, whatever.

You think you're disgruntled? if everyone would stop being fucking stupid about it and had actually practiced distancing forever ago we wouldn't be facing as many challenges as we are, things wouldn't be getting worse and worse. All these fucking idiot's "It's just a bad cold, it's just a flu. I don't care I'm going out anyway" I'm so beyond pissed at the shit I see going on in my own city let alone all the other places like the spring breakers in FL.

Anyway, that's my rant I guess.

[psychoangel691]

Oh and thanks for basically saying that people like me don't matter, if I get this I'm fucked and I have two people in the house still forced to go to work that could be bringing it home.
Haven't even been able to breathe well as is lately.

[TC_Halogen]

The number of people who are being sent to ICU/critical care as a result of COVID-19 who only present the most trivial of respiratory cases as an underlying issue is troubling. The spread of "oh, it won't kill you" across social media has been nothing short of absolutely infuriating to me and I've literally gotten into arguments and went off on other family members for their unending stupidity.

Anyone who is continuing to trivialize the issue seriously needs to fucking stop.

Last night, I read through this Twitter thread from David Lat, a seemingly prominent social media voice with regards to the law -- he posted his experiences as someone who not only tested positive with COVID-19 but also spread it to someone else.

The other person who caught it was his husband. His symptoms? Practically nothing.

His story was posted on the 17th of March. He talks about his general health, saying that he has exercise-induced asthma -- a lighter case than regular asthmatics as it actually takes significant work for him to require his inhaler. Now he's in critical condition, fighting for his life while on a ventilator. He's run multiple marathons, and does weekly exercise including 25 miles of walking and multiple high-intensity interval training classes at his gym.

This legitimately rattled me. I've got a tank of an immune system, and studies are apparently supporting the fact that O-blood type individuals experience even less in the way of symptoms. I've got O-negative blood, and have no issues with asthma. This means that if I catch this shit, I'm almost certainly going to feel like I'm an asymptomatic carrier, since this shit had to of course proliferate right around the time of seasonal allergies.

Kayla is immunocompromised. My mom is a smoker. Breathing issues run in the family. I've gotta go into office half-time as a result of the job that I am doing specifically. I'm not okay. It's hard to go throughout the day not reading this shit, but I'm really wishing I could just tune it out.