TWG CIV: FFR Tournament - Reality Parallax

[Riotpolice]

pnt, why not look at it this way: Of what purpose, and what gain, would it serve that a green should take the role of another blue (even if there were mistakes in what he claimed)? Here are the two possible outcomes that this lynch has given the greens/sandbaggers:

• Xiz, if you really and truly were a green, you've royally screwed the humans by killing two roles, both green + blue. That was an extremely stupid mistake that probably cost us the game. The sandbaggers will probably win as they will take advantage of our lynching by killing one of our revealed blues.

• If you're red, we've gotten rid a very good role, the MW, with one of our blues in the process. We are now just 3 sandbaggers away from victory, and taking you out of the game, to me, is like taking the Queen in chess.

The point is: No vanilla green player takes the role of another blue player unless if they flipped green (which he did) and are the MW. Xiz, you better be the MW in the postgame or I will not be happy.

[thesunfan]

Do NOT go after Xiz, or anyone else in the postgame. Be constructive, but do not be angry. It does no good. Regardless of what role he was, we should be treating each death as if they *might* be the miller or the MW, and if a blue (other than me lol) dies, then we should think about how it changes the game based of which blue that player might've been.
Do not go after Xiz or anyone else for anything that happens. It does no good. I still love Xiz regardless of his role, or his playstyle this game.

[pntballa18]

Originally Posted by Riotpolice

pnt, why not look at it this way: Of what purpose, and what gain, would it serve that a green should take the role of another blue (even if there were mistakes in what he claimed)?

People do stupid things to judge reactions in games with out of thread communication. I can remember games where I was green and claimed to be a wolf, and games where I was green and claimed to be blue.

And I would like to clarify what you've put in parentheses there. The mistake was not in what he claimed, Xiz intentionally said he was the Dr Blocker. The mistake was how thesunfan interpreted it.

Here are the two possible outcomes that this lynch has given the greens/sandbaggers:

• Xiz, if you really and truly were a green, you've royally screwed the humans by killing two roles, both green + blue. That was an extremely stupid mistake that probably cost us the game. The sandbaggers will probably win as they will take advantage of our lynching by killing one of our revealed blues.

It's night 1 so stop acting like the game is over. You know from last game that until it's numerically impossible for the humans to win, there's more than ample opportunity for the humans to make up for any mistakes they've made.

If you're red, we've gotten rid a very good role, the MW, with one of our blues in the process. We are now just 3 sandbaggers away from victory, and taking you out of the game, to me, is like taking the Queen in chess.

You also know from last game that it's a mistake for the humans to assume a wolf is dead when there's no proof. If you really think that Xiz is the MW, I probably can't change your opinion by restating what I've already said. But even if you personally think he was, we're much better off if you suspend your disbelief and assume he wasn't. Don't want that queen taking you by surprise.

The point is: No vanilla green player takes the role of another blue player unless if they flipped green (which he did) and are the MW.

Once again, he absolutely DID NOT take the role of another blue player. That's the way thesunfan interpreted it, and that interpretation was wrong.

But your last sentence essentially says there's absolutely no chance Xiz was human. First of all that's not true, but like I just said even if you really believe he's a wolf, it's much safer to assume that he was human.

[YoshL]

In probably the most surprising turn of events, thesunfan is eliminated from the tournament. I don't think anyone saw that coming.

And also just as surprisingly, he gets analyzed as a BLUE

1. Riotpolice
2. Xiv
3. thesunfan
4. Charu
5. dAnceguy117
6. Krauthammer
7. Funnygurl555
8. Silvuh
9. pntballa18
10. mellonxcollie
11. James May
12. Svaz
13. Gradiant
14. yo man im awesome
15. FoJar

Day ends on Saturday, November 23rd at 11:59 PM EST, or until insta of course.

[pntballa18]

james

[Charu]

Yeah, going right back on James May.

[James May]

...here we go again...

[James May]

@pnt & Charu: Why are you guys being complete idiots...

[James May]

Or do I sense wolfiness between you two?

[Charu]

Oh... you wanted me to say something?

Okay, I'll say why I'm doing it again.

Let me quote something that I think is still valid.

Originally Posted by Charu

My thoughts have not changed on James, but there is a possibility that the wolves are using my suspicions to get at a free player. However, similar possibilities exist in which the wolves can't help him so they're forced to get him because of his actions.

I strongly feel that having a lynch on James will open some possibilities if he's a player or not. If he's a player, then that means the sandbaggers indeed did jump on him and I will be looking at the players that have jumped.

If he's a sandbagger, then one or even two sandbaggers are bussing him this early to appear more like a player and potentially make us waver if they're sincere or not.

I this this still very much applies.

Originally Posted by James May

With what am I suppose to argue with Riot? The fact that two people only use meta against me? This is what aggravates me so fucking much when people use meta because it prevents them from getting any insight that would get a wolf.

Anyhow, yeah. If anything, look into ymia and pnt because you guys are making a tremendous mistake lynching me...I am a vanilla town for crying out loud...

With that, pnt I know that between one of them is a wolf...

This post again you're stressing you're a human so hard, look, you can tell because you colored it! Right? RIGHT?

Originally Posted by James May

Wait what? Greg you better be right about this...it is the craziest shit you have written up so far...but it might just work....

Xiz

Oh geez, look at this vote without the evidence yet presented.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by James May

Or do I sense wolfiness between you two?

...Because me and him would totally do this at the beginning of the day so we both can be very suspicious, right?

[James May]

Before I forget
pnt, let's dance.

[dAnceguy117]

James, could you tell me why you think pntballa is a wolf?

[pntballa18]

Originally Posted by James May

@pnt & Charu: Why are you guys being complete idiots...

I thought you were a wolf the last time we talked, and since that time I've brought up another point which casted more personal suspicion on you. How did you become so certain that Xiz was the master wolf so soon after his cardflip?

[James May]

Originally Posted by Charu

Oh... you wanted me to say something?

Okay, I'll say why I'm doing it again.

Let me quote something that I think is still valid.



I this this still very much applies.



This post again you're stressing you're a human so hard, look, you can tell because you colored it! Right? RIGHT?



Oh geez, look at this vote without the evidence yet presented.

Point 1: invalid. Even if there was, you're still disregarding the inactive players being wolves. Just because I have votes on me does not mean that wolves are bussing against me.

Point 2: because of people like you and pnt being incompetent morons that I have to spell it right in front of you. Sadly you're too incompetent to see it.

Point 3: a picture is worth a thousand words. What did we see here in Day 1? Xiz was stupid enough to fake claim on a blue role.

[Charu]

Yeah, except you went for Xiz before sun even showed the screenshot or even said ANYTHING.

[Charu]

Oh, OH, want me to quote more shit?

[James May]

Originally Posted by pntballa18

I thought you were a wolf the last time we talked, and since that time I've brought up another point which casted more personal suspicion on you. How did you become so certain that Xiz was the master wolf so soon after his cardflip?

Let me ask you one thing: would a town be stupid enough to fake claim a blue role?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

ok, so guys, Xiz is a wolf, not entirely sure how I'm going to prove it, but I can at least say that, if you look at our past games, we're perfectly in tune. I haven't felt that this game. I figured it was nothing, and, to be honest, I was relieved. This should've bothered me more. I thought about it a bit, but I brushed it off as nothing. He also stated in the TWG chat, that he felt I "was playing exactly the game he wanted me to." He refused to explain what this meant. I've been trying to get in contact with him regarding something he said to me over Skype earlier for 7 hours, he's posted in the thread, acknowledged that he knows I've been trying to talk to him, and he's refusing to try and defend himself. I really don't know what to do other than vote for him.

Also, he's normally the biggest poster. He isn't this time. Why? He always has a gimmick this game, but being inactive for as long as he can isn't it, as Danceguy ruined it earlier. Why? This is all wolf play by him. I know this isn't the most convincing post, and I'll probably regret how much more explaining I'll have to do, but Xiz is a wolf, guys.

This is all he said before you did this shit.

Originally Posted by James May

Wait what? Greg you better be right about this...it is the craziest shit you have written up so far...but it might just work....

Xiz

Take note of post number.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

don't derail this situation talking about this.
btw Xiz claimed the blue role I am in a PM earlier today. pce.

This was after your vote.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by James May

Wait what? Greg you better be right about this...it is the craziest shit you have written up so far...but it might just work....

Xiz

Wow, look here's the picture after he said that too.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA