Ingame Song Information

[PlayTrumpet]

I feel Carrousel Paradise should be a Challenging, currently it's a VC. Its steps flow easily, nothing tricky. It has a very comfortable BPM for trills and streams. Its streams are not long and ongoing, and even slower than those of (for example) {Rose}, which is a 9. And even for a low 10, it feels like a medium 9.

[EAGAMES]

I feel the same way as PlayTrumpet.

[Soul Slayer]

I think Vertex BETA should go back to FMO.

[hi19hi19]

PlayTrumpet has a good point. I also feel a similar demotion for Epic as well. (not from VC to C, but certinaly a lower value out of 100)

EDIT- VB is not an FMO, get over it. The only hard part of it would be the left 8th slowjack to one handed trills, but even that's not a big deal.

[Shashakiro]

Yeah, Carrousel isn't really a 10.

[EDEdDNEdDYFaN]

eradication should be gurus
bb revenge should be a vc lol...that song is way too easy
big blue should be gurus also

[s0ulst0n3]

Originally Posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN

eradication should be gurus

I think it's a high FMO, no really hard parts to make it a guru.

Originally Posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN

bb revenge should be a vc lol...that song is way too easy

Look at the number of AAA's and its' length. For a song at that constant BPM, it's FMO worthy.

Originally Posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN

big blue should be gurus also

Agreed.

[[HectoGtzMX]]

Well, jx already said why big blue is fmo, but I still think is an FGO, there are even some FGO's with more AAAs than it, and I think the same about PE gymnastics.

[Silver_Brian]

PE Gymnastics rates up there with my hatred of Club. FGO in my book lol.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

PE Gymnastics can be an FGO.
Big Blue is an FMO.
not gonna talk about BB Revenge cuz I suck at it.
Carrousel is a Challenging.
Either Eradication should be an FGO, or Reality should be an FMO. When it comes to combo, surely Reality is harder. But when it comes to PA, surely Eradication is harder.

[hi19hi19]

Actually I find Eradication harder in both PA and combo, compared to Reality. FGO it.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

It depends highly on the speed you can accomplish. If you have the speed to do Reality, then Eradication is harder. If you don't have the speed to do Reality, then Reality is harder. In any which case, these two songs should have the same difficulty.

[s0ulst0n3]

You people are insane, Erad is way easier then Reality, lol.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

Reality is extremely steady. If you have the speed, PA is nothing.
-Staircases and staircases and staircases, the occasional minitrill.
-Jump Jump Jump, just one or two consecutive arrows in the jump 8ths. (minijacks.)
-Real easy PA once you can FC with confident speed.
-32nd roll is the same as hitting 4 16th jumps.

Eradication is extremely variant. Hard to PA.
-Runningmen/crossovers with chaotically changing 24ths+16ths/12ths+8ths and jumps.
-the streams are much more complicated than Reality + jumps in them.
-the beginning, and the slow guitar + layered drums right after is a PA killer.

We are not insane. kthxbai

I can sdg Reality sightread. It takes time for me to get used to the patterns on Eradication, about 10 games before I can sdg. I've only sdgd Eradication once tbh.

[behanjc]

Only thing that gets me in Eradication is the beginning 24th/16th fest. Severe mental block, I can never get past it. The rest of it certainly qualifies it as high FMO, but I think Reality is easier. However, there are most likely those who have just enough speed to score well on Erad, but cannot even combo Reality.

[Tasselfoot]

carousel is a 10 because of the weird patterns it has, specifically in 2 spots... around 210 and 350 (IIRC). 180bpm stream/bursts otherwise.

Revenge is 100% a FMO... it's way harder and weirder patterns and faster than Evolution, and that is definitely a FMO. Eradication and Gymnastics and Big Blue are all at the very top of the FMO rating, borderline with FGO, but not quite. To me, it doesn't really matter either way in terms of rating.

[hi19hi19]

Carousel... I saw a weird left hand pattern at 210, but it was nothing special really. I saw nothing of note anywhere near 350. And really, that one pattern is hardly VC material. I still say demote it to a C.

[s0ulst0n3]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midday}xX

Reality is extremely steady. If you have the speed, PA is nothing.
-Staircases and staircases and staircases, the occasional minitrill.
-Jump Jump Jump, just one or two consecutive arrows in the jump 8ths. (minijacks.)
-Real easy PA once you can FC with confident speed.
-32nd roll is the same as hitting 4 16th jumps.

Eradication is extremely variant. Hard to PA.
-Runningmen/crossovers with chaotically changing 24ths+16ths/12ths+8ths and jumps.
-the streams are much more complicated than Reality + jumps in them.
-the beginning, and the slow guitar + layered drums right after is a PA killer.

We are not insane. kthxbai

I can sdg Reality sightread. It takes time for me to get used to the patterns on Eradication, about 10 games before I can sdg. I've only sdgd Eradication once tbh.

Then I'm probably insane, because I combo Erad way more then I do Reality, plus my PA or Erad is way more impressive. =(

[Xx{Midday}xX]

Once you can combo Reality as steadily as you do Eradication, Reality will be much easier.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midday}xX

Once you can combo Reality as steadily as you do Eradication, Reality will be much easier.

This. If you're fast enough, Reality is cake. If you can't combo the 259bpm stuff consistently then you'll find Eradication easier.