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[hi19hi19]

The 8ths in Reality are by far the hardest part XD

I made the stream too easy, pretty much the only danger is falling behind or going too fast because you're not paying attention.
I guess the 8ths warrant Reality an FGO, but I really think Eradication should be the lowest FGO instead of very high FMO. I tend to judge things based on the hardest part of a song, and those jumpstreams are HARD.

[Silver_Brian]

reality isn't that hard i mean i mashed a fc.

ps lol

[Xx{Midday}xX]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

The 8ths in Reality are by far the hardest part XD

I made the stream too easy, pretty much the only danger is falling behind or going too fast because you're not paying attention.
I guess the 8ths warrant Reality an FGO, but I really think Eradication should be the lowest FGO instead of very high FMO. I tend to judge things based on the hardest part of a song, and those jumpstreams are HARD.

I find Reality to be easier than Eradication, PA wise. The only reason I have that terrible score recorded is because I only FCd Reality once with internet connection. After I started SM, I gained the ability to AAA all the 8th jump sections, and get 10-15 goods on the streams. As for Eradication, my sightread got that 4 0 0 1, and I can't get anything like it anymore. Always 20-30 goods, some averages and boos here and there. I find Eradication somewhat harder, if not equal to Reality.

Originally Posted by sc979

great, I have people who agree with me.

I consistently get 3-5 goods on Choprite as well, keep getting 9+ on Szerencsetlen.

If you can FC Szerencsetlen every time, I don't see why you wouldn't also be able to FC Choprite without difficulty. At first, I thought those triplet patterns were tricky, but they're pretty easy for me right now.

I can definitely AAA Choprite. I have managed to AAA each part of Choprite, now I just need to put them together. Szerencsetlen however... there is this 32nd burst at 1100 or something like that, in which I always get a good/boo/average/ w/e. The burst is exactly the same as the one near 800, but I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS mess up on the 1100. Mental block? Then, it surely is lasting a long time.

Only reason I can do Choprite well, is probably because I feel that the patterns in Choprite are more natural to me. Even without the avmiss fix, I was getting sdgs (I didn't know Choprite was avmissed often until I witnessed other people play on MP). Szerencsetlen seem to have harder patterns and less breaks. That's my opinion.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

The 8ths in Reality are by far the hardest part XD

I made the stream too easy, pretty much the only danger is falling behind or going too fast because you're not paying attention.
I guess the 8ths warrant Reality an FGO, but I really think Eradication should be the lowest FGO instead of very high FMO. I tend to judge things based on the hardest part of a song, and those jumpstreams are HARD.

Eradication is very tough to PA, especially around arrows 30-55 (with that random spurt of colors--ejaculation, as previous said).

Then, around 200 combo, you have the 16th run with jumpstream...that's a bit tough because some of the patterns are choppy and awkward.

The 16/24th rhythm combo is REALLY tough to PA IMO, seeing it the first time, I got like 3-5 boos there alone. But now, it comes by nature--it's actually a pretty simple rhythm (at least the way I'm doing it ).

The all jump pattern following that is ok, nothing out of the ordinary for an FMO/FGO.

And then back to the 16th run with jumps---again, a few patterns are unorthodox, and choppy.

I'm not sure which way to go. You can say FMO if you're judging more through combo, but some sections have really complicated technique.

I'd probably also say to leave it as a low (if not, the lowest) FGO.

[EgomaniaCircus]

Can anyone justify going on spring wind being an FMO? It's not particularly long, or hard to read, or fast, or awkward.

The trills and streams are very intuitive and there are plenty of slow sections. Imho it feels more like a mid level or upper level VC than FMO, it's definitely easier than Vbeta at any rate.

I know PA plays a factor in difficulty but while it may seem hard to PA at first it's really not, and I FCed it 3 times in a row after turning utorrent off, which is more than I can say for any FMO I've previously played. Just my thoughts.

[Tasselfoot]

i've been discussion this with others since i released it last night... and this is really RIGHT on the border between VC and FMO. it's basically 210bpm 16ths... so, it IS fast. but, the patterns aren't too difficult to FC. I think if all we were discussing was FCing, it would be a high VC. BUT. It is extremely difficult to PA relative to its speed... and that, to me, is what makes it a very low FMO.

[Netjet!]

I'm guessing spring is a subscriber song?

[Redorigami]

Going on Spring Wind is definitely an FMO, considering how much harder it is to PA triplet based songs as compared to a steady 16th stream.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

To me, the PA is not too difficult. As EgomaniaCircus said, this is much easier than Vertex BETA.

I think this should be a VC. =/

I don't find triplets harder than streams. I find long trills harder than triplets or streams. =/

[Redorigami]

Triplets in themselves are just as easy as 16ths but when you have a triplet based song, odds are most of the patterns are given a jazz beat as compared to a straight beat, which is what I meant by harder to PA triplet BASED songs.

Also, if it has any meaning, there are some nasty left hand oriented patterns in there, and considering the majority of the population is right handed, that's not that easy to do.

[Xx{Midday}xX]

I find biased and weighted rhythms easier to PA than extremely steady and constant patterns. =/ Then again, these difficulties are just completely based on opinion of majority, so I'm just stating my opinion here.

I also think Frictional Nevada is harder than Ketsarku Mozgalom. =/ or relatively the same, as jimerax said.

[Redorigami]

I support the FN harder than Ketsarku movement. I do understand it being given a higher difficulty considering the random awkward bursts as well as the length though, so I won't argue against that one.

[jimerax]

GOSW is high-VC, IMO. It's kinda hard to PA and would be FMO w/ avmiss (due to 4-framer trills), but not w/o avmiss.

FN(needs speed) is almost the same difficulty with Ketsarku(PA difficulty).

[Xx{Midday}xX]

Concerning Ketsarku Mozgalom's PA difficulty, I think most of the song could be AAAd by repeating 28 46 28 46 at the 16th note speed. I got a 9 good nonFC on the song last week doing that. The only hard part to PA would be the last 24th/32nd stream.

I find Frictional Nevada harder to PA, especially the last part of the song.

ROFL to extremely long super copy of this entire page post that was posted by FutureFlyer just about 4 seconds ago. 2 posts actually.

[ninjaKIWI]

So I read this page, IMO:
Reality = FMO
Eradication = FMO
GOSW = VC

[kmay]

Otaku speedvibe [heavy] requirements been updated yet?

[Breakdown16]

Adding a new difficulty between VC and FMO would solve many disputes. Going on Spring Wind, Vertex BETA, and other FMO/VC songs could be added.

[[HectoGtzMX]]

Originally Posted by Breakdown16

Adding a new difficulty between VC and FMO would solve many disputes. Going on Spring Wind, Vertex BETA, and other FMO/VC songs could be added.

I said this already, but Tass said no, just because he doesn't wan't 13 difficulties in the game -___-;

[Coolboyrulez0]

Originally Posted by [HectoGtzMX]

I said this already, but Tass said no, just because he doesn't wan't 13 difficulties in the game -___-;

Technically ... it would be 14

[DivynE]

switch revo and OMW, or at least make them both 94. OMW's trills and minijacks are just as difficult as revo's jacks/jumpjacks. also revo is pretty hard to read with the bg
EDIT: switch molto with FN too