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You guys all do a great job at what you do. But compare front page posts now to 2007. What is the difference? How are we inspiring visitors to be part of what we do and who we are as a community? We are mostly playing to content hungry existing users. *existing* being the key word. I go through the same thing in webhosting. If you try to compete with Amazon on price and convenience, you will fail. If you compete on customer service and a handheld experience, you can thrive. Obviously there is more to it than that but I think I made the point I wanted to make |
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08-22-2015, 07:25 PM | #122 | |
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To be honest I'd be perfectly happy to take up a role that updated the change log based on what other people could tell me is going on - it would probably bring me right back into the fold of FFR forum activity and maybe even into the game a lot more again. I've been on FFR more in the last three days from this thread (and more the last time a thread like this happened) than I have in the past few months combined. This is because I care about this community but until things start to change, I don't feel like it's something that really engages me in ways I'm interested in, or even feel like something is going on with the site. (in case anyone is not familiar with the change log, here is the link http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/changelog/)
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08-22-2015, 07:27 PM | #123 | |
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08-22-2015, 07:28 PM | #124 |
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I see what you're referring to, and in that context I suppose you are right. I don't necessarily feel that we need to "out-perform" another game or site, just that there needs to be engagement and transparency for the users from the staff. The events team has been the only successful ones on that front recently, aside from the Skill Rating system that was implemented a little bit back (which I will say was a good move in the right direction)
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08-22-2015, 07:29 PM | #125 | |
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However this sunflower isn't the same community anymore. Yes, many of the old timers are still here, but the majority of the folks here are newish (later than 2010 or so). We need to be proud of our past, work in the present, and plan for the future. However we are stuck in the past. This community is different, and different in a good way. We need to embrace the change that needs to happen, and make them happen. In all honesty not a single new player gives a damn about the past of this game and how much work was put into this game, they care about the pretty little "sunflower" that is presented before them. Without new players a community will eventually die all together and FFR will only remain as a wiki page for my kids to stumble upon one day.
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08-22-2015, 07:31 PM | #126 | |
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So how do we work around this issue? What can be done to create redundancy and provide control in a way that helps the group as a whole. This doesn't even need to be a general fix for the visitor count, game or site code itself. I am just talking on a day to day operational level. (P.S. Thank you for all the time you have put in over the years btw. I just wanted to say that while I had the chance! ) Cheers, Synthlight |
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08-22-2015, 07:31 PM | #127 |
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also, Synth is holding out on us and accidentally lost #3 in his post
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08-22-2015, 07:33 PM | #128 |
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Whew boy, we all sure do love that word "transparency". It's one of those buzz words that people use to express strong emotions, but actually doesn't result in anything actionable.
My solution: redo staff applications, and run the site like an open-source project from top to bottom; heck, nobody expects to pay for rhythm games anyways, it pretty much has to be open-source. That's my best idea for "transparency".
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#3 surely had to be the answer to the meaning of life
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Yeah, that just has to roll down from the top and I think is directly related to my opening comments about leadership and personality. It's a tough position to fill and way harder than anyone thinks it will be. So how do we solve that as a starting point here? There must be a way.
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This is proof of what I am trying to say. Get people fired up and engaged. We have to strike that balance of helping people stay here but generating new interest. It can all be done regardless of code, forum, site theme etc. I don't mean to sound like a broken record but I think that discussing this, you will see why what I am saying will work. The rest of the problems, (I don't mean to sound harsh) are either junior high style issues or problems that can fix themselves as a side effect of general inspiration.
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don't disorganize things by removing active users who are actually trying to be a part of the solution and not the problem EDIT: Quote:
I mean shit, I've had my issues between school and work and as much as I hated to disappoint users, I did it to mitigate the damage that could have been <_<; Last edited by TC_Halogen; 08-22-2015 at 07:43 PM.. |
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Last form of transparency the community received from staff other than the Batch and what is contained in this thread is the May Site Changes. We are nearly done with August.
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Everyone knows that people have real lives outside here, but it's the fact that nobody takes the initiative to put someone else in the place of those people to help keep things going. There's also generally no communication about it which gets the community upset. |
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08-22-2015, 07:44 PM | #136 |
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Communication has been a huge issue for a long time really. Both between staff and staff to community.
I will gladly go back to making these posts http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hats-happenin/ if the other staff members will get on board with me and give me updates. That at least will keep the community in the loop of things. |
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Essentially, it is my opinion that your last sentence is what is killing this site. Development takes MONEY.
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I would be extremely willing to commit myself to making serious change happen on this site.
I would work my heart out to bring this community alive again and get the game the updates it deserves. But I would need monetary compensation. Volunteering for FFR is neither profitable nor a resume builder.
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