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Old 07-13-2016, 12:00 AM   #1
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Default How do I improve my stamina?

ive been trying to improve my stamina for a while and i'm wondering if any of you have any tips?
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: How do I improve my stamina?

Play consistently dense files until your arms burn.

Repeat as needed.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:45 AM   #3
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more like repeat forever
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:56 AM   #4
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Default Re: How do I improve my stamina?

Play these packs:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=133223

Playing songs that challenge you yet you are still able to pass is a great way to improve.
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post-dumps abstractly represent the existential nihilism that the song invokes in the listener with negative space, evoking the ephemeral nature of the mind - the journey of stepmania begins in hope yet soon becomes corroded into a dialectic of futility, leaving only a sense of dread and the unlikelihood of a new synthesis
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:56 AM   #5
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Default Re: How do I improve my stamina?

The methods to improve stamina and to get carpal tunnel are one and the same
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:31 AM   #6
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ive been trying to improve my stamina for a while and i'm wondering if any of you have any tips?
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Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:44 AM   #7
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This idea of having stamina isn't so much a question of acquiring a "thing" more than conditioning yourself to make optimal usage of the stamina you already have.

In my own experience I found that having confidence in my ability to hit some thing more than it just being a theory motivated me to try harder things, because clearly, if your not doing the best things you could be doing, leveraging you're existing stamina and expanding on it from condition is going to be a much harder process.

try not to tense and use lighter key taps ect. feel your fingers drop my like hammers !_! and try to resist shaking or unneeded motions in your playing that make your effort go to waste rather than transferring that energy and momentum back into your playing.

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Old 07-13-2016, 11:07 AM   #8
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Default Re: How do I improve my stamina?

Play faster patterns that give you trouble.

Do finger excersises such as holding a jar of water/sand to strengthen the muscles.

The key is to have your fingers burning - stamina is all about strong finger muscles. It's a matter of making your fingers feel like they got worked out after playing, and the muscles will become stronger and your stamina will improve.


My suggestion, do the vertex beta challenge. Just play the song Vertex Beta over and over and over and over again, at as high or as low of a rate you can play it accurately and consistently.

Just based on your scores I figured you could probably do it at like 0.8 or maybe 0.7 rate perhaps, maybe even higher. Vertex Beta is like, 3 minutes+ of just straight streams lol.

Play this song like 5 times in a row, and your fingers will definitely be burning after
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:09 AM   #9
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play stamina songs to improve stamina
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:01 PM   #10
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Personally I keep my arms and wrists rested. Having sharp pain on my right hand because of hurting my wrists too much to keep up with fast jacks, I found that I would lose stamina quickly. I rely on creating dexterity in my fingers (using the forearm musles/tendons, someone help me out with the specifics here please) with light jacking exercises and one hand trilling warm-ups, both at slower speeds, in order to get used to played without using my wrists or arms for movement. I had a skill drop at first but eventually I found that stamina wasn't a problem and I got the hang of doing jacks with little to no strain.

Basically: slow and steady warm-ups for one hand trilling and jacks at slow soeeds, don't strain wrists and arms, and also make sure to take breaks in between songs to let the blood flow evenly and to relax the hands
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:53 PM   #11
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you will not improve your stamina very much by expending more energy than necessary. all in all try to relax your fingers and arms, take a deep breath, and open your 3y3s

play stuff also that makes your arms burn
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Old 07-13-2016, 02:42 PM   #12
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When I am fastest, my forearms emit intense heat and my fingers have barely any blood flow to them and my fingers are cold. Probably because the nerves in my arms are what moves my fingers, and the faster they move and the more they move, the hotter your forearms get. My assumption is that finger workouts won't work, mashing to super hard songs at the speed of the song whilst attempting to fc with all your strength is what gives you stamina. Just make sure when you mash you use you're moving your arms up and down, not just your fingers. For my playstyle of using two hands, I move the left arm up and the right arm down and vice versa and repeat to keep momentum.
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that will increase jacking/jumptrill stamina i guess
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that will increase jacking/jumptrill stamina i guess
If you do it everyday it increases your normal stamina as well as your speed and reading. That's why I went from D5 to D7, but you have to be dedicated. No pain no gain.
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If you do it everyday it increases your normal stamina as well as your speed and reading.
just jumptrilling isnt going to effect your speed for anything other than jacking/jumptrilling. its also not going to help your normal stamina because the muscles used for jumptrilling with your forearms are different from the muscles you use to move your fingers individually.
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just jumptrilling isnt going to effect your speed for anything other than jacking/jumptrilling. its also not going to help your normal stamina because the muscles used for jumptrilling with your forearms are different from the muscles you use to move your fingers individually.
I disagree with you because I have done it myself and had a couple others do it and been told there's been all around results from it from them.
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[14][23] and [13][24] jump trills train more than just jacks n trills
anchors and gluts mang
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[14][23] and [13][24] jump trills train more than just jacks n trills
anchors and gluts mang
pretty sure hes talking about [12] [34] jumptrills, not split jumptrills. also i consider anchors and gluts to be jacks because they basically are.
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pretty sure hes talking about [12] [34] jumptrills, not split jumptrills. also i consider anchors and gluts to be jacks because they basically are.
You are correct.
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Yeah I figured as much, I just lump split trills and shit trills into the same category

as for the thread, check out the "ultramarathon gigapack", it's got a lot of long ass songs covering a fair range of difficulties, even if they're too easy there's always rates
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