New Otaku Speedvibe (Oni) Requirements

[foxfire667]

What I was going to say seems pretty much covered in this thread.

66 seems to be the lowest current difficulty that unlocks oni, so any song 66+ should be allowed to unlock Oni. I've always thought the list of specific songs was rather unnecessary anyway, considering it really shouldn't matter what FMO you AAA'd.

[Arbliterator]

I voted anything 70+

[noname219]

Here's the songs that are/could unlock oni :

66 0 (piano version)
66 Ambient Angels
66 Arrogant Cobbler
66 Black Key Etude
66 Choprite
66 Colorful Course
66 Defection
66 Epidermis
66 Flamingo
66 Going On Spring Wind
66 Jeanie and Caroline
66 Largiloquent Dithyramb
66 Makiba
66 Melonman's OP
66 Puzzle
66 Rottel-da-station

67 Battle Theme #37
67 Chronograph
67 Determination
67 Disconnected Hardkore
67 Epilogue
67 EuroMorroc (Clean Edit)
67 Fast Asleep
67 For FFR
67 Gacha Gacha Hertz Figu atto Radio
67 Gravity Blast
67 Grocery Escape Plan
67 JULIAN
67 Kanon Medley ~Metal Wings~
67 Midnight Dragon
67 Papyrus's Adventure
67 Strangeprogram
67 The earth blew up

68 .357 Magnum
68 Banned Forever
68 Dance and Zeal
68 Demon Beast Appearance
68 Destination Of The Heart
68 Heavenly Spores
68 I'm Sick of Uprock
68 Lawn Wake I
68 Minute Waltz v2
68 Pure Ruby
68 Radio Heads
68 The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
68 The Replicator
68 Variations 2
68 VS Boss Battle

69 AIM Anthem
69 BB Evolution
69 Church Bells
69 Club
69 Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star
69 Hajnal
69 Just why
69 Miss Candy on TV
69 Nous
69 Op.10 No.9
69 Plasmatextor
69 Powerpuff Gabberz
69 Scythe of 13
69 Summer Time Perfume
69 super mario bros theme (original NES is awesome)
69 Thrash
69 Treasure Planet

70 300
70 Blue-Violet
70 Bogey at your Six
70 Crowdpleaser v2
70 Face in the Gutter
70 Futsuu No Uta
70 Nix-Tek
70 PianoCore
70 Pokamen Party
70 Romance in the Club feat. Liquido
70 Stately, Wrong
70 Starry Sky (TANUKI BOOTLEG)

71 A FLOWER GARDEN
71 Clockwork
71 Distorted God
71 Faint Breath
71 Floating Hour
71 JULIA
71 Kyrie
71 Marisa Stole the Precious Thing
71 Master Maid
71 Nanairopanda v2
71 Night and Day
71 Perfect Cherry Storm
71 Phalanx
71 Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran!
71 The Rapids

72 404th of July
72 Cinnamon Roll
72 Dendrite v2
72 Document 13b
72 Famicon Selecta
72 Gaussian Blur
72 INFINITY Hyperspace
72 Magnum
72 Obscene Amount of Steam
72 Over The Ocean
72 Passage D [Heavy]
72 Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia Mov.3
72 Spaceman
72 Staring at my Spaceship
72 Starwolf

73 Aim Burst
73 Bloodmeat [Heavy]
73 Brandish Headless
73 Caprice
73 Chaosmaid
73 Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival
73 Jasmine (Camelrape Remix)
73 Mahou no Oshigoto
73 Otaku Speedvibe [Oni] (lolwut)
73 Overdrive
73 Piano Etude (Demon Fire) [Heavy]
73 Pitch Black (FFR Edit)
73 Runny Mornings (SGX Mix)
73 Since 1983
73 Spoils

74 3020
74 4 Chord Touhou
74 BB Revenge
74 Beware the Purple Water
74 Blindfolds Aside
74 Car Sax
74 Dead and Direct
74 Flight of the Bumblebee
74 Of course you Need and... NEED ME
74 Press Start
74 SOLROS
74 World Tour 2004
74 Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze

75 Big Blue
75 bmv.578
75 Eradication
75 Hellhounds on My Trail
75 Mario Minor
75 October

76 Blooddrunk [Heavy]
76 Momentary Life
76 Silly Symphony

77 Toxiferous Dystopia

78 He's A Radical Rat
78 Piano Etude (Gymnastics)

[SK8R43]

I dont understand why anyone would want 70+? I mean, their are a GREAT deal of songs that are 65-69 that are plenty hard enough to unlock Oni..... I dont even HAVE a 70+ song yet and i have 13 or 14 FMO AAAs so i dont really think that is fair at all. Anyone care to Elaborate for me?

[lumphoboextreme]

voted for 65/66+ should do it

[Arbliterator]

Originally Posted by SK8R43

I dont understand why anyone would want 70+? I mean, their are a GREAT deal of songs that are 65-69 that are plenty hard enough to unlock Oni..... I dont even HAVE a 70+ song yet and i have 13 or 14 FMO AAAs so i dont really think that is fair at all. Anyone care to Elaborate for me?

That's exactly why, I think the majority of songs in the 66-69 range are becoming too easy (like when they removed songs such as VB and SC from the list) and I always thought oni should be a hard token/achievement to earn since it appears alot more people are getting oni as the skill level of the community as a whole grows higher. However that's just my thought/opinion on the matter and it doesn't really matter if it's 66+ or 70+ to me.

[SK8R43]

Well Southern cross/Vertex Beta are definitely FMO's, imo at least. But okay, how exactly are they getting easier? Just because most of the higher ups in the community are getting better doesnt mean that we need to keep making the reqs higher and higher and making FMO songs very challenging. Its not really fair to the others. I mean i get what you are saying but it definitely should not be 70+ because thats just not fair.
My 2cents

Edit: Does it really matter if more people are getting Oni? I mean, if you are good enough to AAA an FMO then you deserve it and it shouldnt matter if its a high FMO or a low FMO, they are both worthy of the token because you EARNED it by practicing and getting good enough to get an FMO lol

[rushyrulz]

66+
Agreed, sk8r I've been advocating for SC and VB to be FMOs for quite some time now.

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by Arbliterator

That's exactly why, I think the majority of songs in the 66-69 range are becoming too easy (like when they removed songs such as VB and SC from the list) and I always thought oni should be a hard token/achievement to earn since it appears alot more people are getting oni as the skill level of the community as a whole grows higher. However that's just my thought/opinion on the matter and it doesn't really matter if it's 66+ or 70+ to me.

VB and SC were removed because it was agreed upon that they weren't fmos and thus shouldn't unlock the token designed for aaaing an fmo lol.

66+ makes most sense now that i think about it

[SK8R43]

Exactly what i am thinking Mrpop. Making the reqs higher and higher as the years go on is just not right. People practice and get better, its just how it works.

EDIT: Right Rushy, I really have NO idea how Southern Cross is not FMO. I mean come on Jump stream for that long is not anything less. Same for Vertex Beta, Fast paced stream is not anything less, come on.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Should be any FMO, low or high. Raising the reqs is a terrible idea.

Can't say more than this

the fact of the matter is, it's stupid that the list wasn't kept up to date as we went along.

Also we need to update the heavy unlock list.

[blindreper1179]

What does the pop up say when you unlock it. HOLY COW YOU MANAGED TO AAA A FMO(or something along the lines of that.)

So, uhhhh...... any freaking fmo should get you the token. I got mine on Novo Mundo. It should still get you it. Along with the others removed (if FMO's still)

[Arbliterator]

Originally Posted by SK8R43

Edit: Does it really matter if more people are getting Oni? I mean, if you are good enough to AAA an FMO then you deserve it and it shouldnt matter if its a high FMO or a low FMO, they are both worthy of the token because you EARNED it by practicing and getting good enough to get an FMO lol

Eh this a bit of a silly reason but it just doesn't feel quite as important or as much of a notable achievement when there's 500 people who have it as opposed to say 100. I also thought because if 64 or 65 doesn't give you oni then the other numbers of the expert section shouldn't either, maybe 64 and 65 can give it out too? Also I'd say those 2 songs are FMO/Expert as well but subjectivemanias.

[SK8R43]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

What does the pop up say when you unlock it. HOLY COW YOU MANAGED TO AAA A FMO(or something along the lines of that.)

So, uhhhh...... any freaking fmo should get you the token. I got mine on Novo Mundo. It should still get you it. Along with the others removed (if FMO's still)

^^^ This, and no sadly the others are 65 along with Novo Mundo which is most DEFINITELY an FMO!! With that being said, SC, Miraiya, VB, and all the other 65's are DEFINITELY FMO. lol

[cedolad]

Lemme go unlock Oni so people will give a damn about my opinion.

In all seriousness, FMO = For Master's Only, doesn't master start on 71's or something like that? Then I say that. It's more of a challenge anyway.

[SK8R43]

Originally Posted by Arbliterator

Eh this a bit of a silly reason but it just doesn't feel quite as important or as much of a notable achievement when there's 500 people who have it as opposed to say 100. I also thought because if 64 or 65 doesn't give you oni then the other numbers of the expert section shouldn't either, maybe 64 and 65 can give it out too? Also I'd say those 2 songs are FMO/Expert as well but subjectivemanias.

Hey, wouldnt bother me if 10,000 people had Oni. Its hard to get and that should be enough satisfaction to hold you over. Eventually alot more people are going to have it anyways if they keep up the practice. Like vet status, doesnt matter if 200 or 10,000 people have it. If you earned it, then you earned it lol


Edit: NOT trying to hate on anyone or make anyone feel bad, very sorry if im doing that

[Jake Ferguson]

It'd be extremely unfair to people that are working hard to improve to get the token if the difficulty to unlock is bumped up because people that already have it think it's too easy (of course it's easy for you, you're a skilled player and already have the token).

And I think it's kinda lame to follow the poorly grouped sets of difficulties and say it should be 70+. The token was made for FMOs back when it was called FMOs, and it should stay like that. Not following a new system with different names.

[ReikonKeiri]

woah if sc unlocked oni i could get it o-o

[One Winged Angel]

Why are people basing their votes on trying to keep Oni an exclusive token? The difficulty to unlock the token should remain unchanged. You don't see any other tokens being vamped up in difficulty because too many people have them. People just think there's wiggle room with Oni because it's a skill token that doesn't have one solidified req, i.e. AAA Spontaneous Hydroxide. You don't see that token being changed to AAA Turbulence because too many people have it.

66-75/76 is the best range for what the original requirement was. Less emphasis on the upper bounds because it's extremely unlikely someone would unlock Oni on a file harder than most 74s/75s, but it doesn't hurt to include songs even all the way up to 77.

[SK8R43]

Originally Posted by cedolad

Lemme go unlock Oni so people will give a damn about my opinion.

In all seriousness, FMO = For Master's Only, doesn't master start on 71's or something like that? Then I say that. It's more of a challenge anyway.

FMO = For Masters Only on the old system. The new system is Master not for master only. So that needs to change also. With that being said, masters is too high for the start of the oni and only limits it to so many. Expert/66+ should Unlock Oni.