02-12-2019, 01:52 AM | #1 |
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SEND ME GAMES THIS IS NOT A JOKE also postgame here
ROLE REVEAL!
Wolves 1. Santa Claus (Sleigh Driver)- WAYWARD VAGABOND 2. Mall Santa (Wolf seer)- SVAZ 3. Santa's Elf- FUNNYGURL555 Humans 4. Mall Cop (One-shot vigilante)- CHARU 5. Michael Jackson (Seer)- THE SUN FAN 6. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer- XELNYA 7. Buddy the Elf- FUNNIER6 8. Olive, the Other Reindeer- MELLONXCOLLIE 9. Joseph the Carpenter- INDHEART 10. Judas Maccabeus- LIGHTKNIGHT924 11. The Grinch- MIXMASTERLAR 12. Ebenezer Scrooge- DABACKPACK 13. The Bumble- ANTORI Actions: Night 1 Sunfan- checks funnier6 [Result: GREEN] Funnier6- spins dreidel [Result: PEH] Svaz- checks DaBackpack [Result: RED] XelNya- spins dreidel [Result: NUN] Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [Result: NUN] Antori- spins dreidel [Result: NUN] DaBackpack- spins dreidel [Result: PEH] Synopsis of night 1: Not everyone checked in… a pregame phase would have been helpful but also would have taken another day or two and I think people want to get day 1 started asap (there’s not really much difference between night start and having a confirmation phase imo) The odds of only nun/peh happening are ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝! I simply used random.org’s random number generator from 1 to 4: 1 is nun, 2 is gimel, 3 is hey, 4 is peh. Day 1 With the master wolf and a vanilla human in a KITB, I could easily have just offed the human to keep the game closer and nobody would know. It turns out I kept too much power in a single wolf and (perhaps crucially) the wolves weren't told the roles of their partners, just the names. I think losing a wolf before the Kinara is fully lit is just too costly in this setup. I also didn't consider the cost of removing N1 kills. Night 2 inDheart- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL] MixMasterLar- spins dreidel [result: PEH] Thesunfan- seers charu [result: BLUE] Lightknight924- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL] Svaz- seers thesunfan [result: BLUE] Wolves- kill inDheart Antori- spins dreidel [result: PEH] Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [result: NUN] Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: HEY] Charu- shoots XelNya [result: DEAD] Dabackpack- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL] Night 2 synopsis: Both of the seers got good hits tonight, with sunfan finding charu and svaz finding sunfan. That’s about it, but these *technically* random dreidel spins aren’t doing it for me. I want more variety. At this point it seems wolves are relatively doomed. I accidentally screwed up and sent charu a vanilla human PM :X I blame the forums Kappa Day 2 Somehow a failure of communication occurs and MixMasterLar gets insta'd. It was fun to watch, sorry MML :3 Night 3 Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: hey] Wolves- kill funnier6 [result: DEAD] Svaz- seer Raeko [result: GREEN] Thesunfan- seer svaz [result: RED] Antori- spin dreidel [result: nun] Mellonxcollie- spin dreidel [result: nun] Night 3 synopsis: things continue to happen- wolves kill funnier “out of spite” and also to work towards a game plan of removing green vanillas. Day 3: Svaz is revealed to be red and that's pretty much it. With Svaz going down it's funnygurl vs the world. I don't have high hopes for anyone vs the world here. Night 4: Thesunfan- seer Nakah [result: GREEN] Nakah- one shot role seering on DaBackpack [result: Vanilla Human] DaBackpack- one shot role seering on Raeko [result: Vanilla Human] Funnygurl- roleblock DaBackpack, kill Antori Night 4 synopsis: Well, maybe if FG had killed sunfan and blocked nakah there was a chance there, but realistically funnygurl was dying over everyone else anyway just for being less towny. Overall synopsis: Haha my bad wolves got super unlucky with basically everything EXCEPT for the intentional RNG. This game was originally designed to be hosted on NSM, and I think that if I was designing a game specifically to be played on FFR I wouldn't have made some of the design choices I did. Typically NSM is less willing to lynch reds when there's a <50% chance of wolf there, so maybe I should have added a fourth red player to more strongly disincentivize red lynches here. I also put too much power into master wolf, since I figured wolves would prioritize saving numbers for when the kinara went off (a perfect game for wolves would mean they reach parity on Night 4 with that extra janitor kill), but they lost both a number for parity and the extra kill, which was probably way too punishing. Also, the sleigh driver ability never got used so I basically forgot how it even worked. The dreidels ended up being fine, with only 2 "confirmed humans". The real point of the dreidels was to keep humans active, since a lot of times people getting a vanilla human role PM feel like they have nothing to do and no way to solve a game. In the hands of FFR they probably became a little too potent, but the idea was so entrenched and entwined with the concept of dreidels I couldn't really think of an alternative. Player synopsis: Wolves Humans Could the game have been better balanced? Definitely. Would it have been as absurd or fun? Subjective, but naaaaaaaah. In hindsight I would have made the three wolves equally powerful instead of stacking it topheavy and making the third wolf vanilla. The dreidels were risky, but I think it was tough to balance them any better. Consider a bastard game where the seerings may not always be accurate... Anyway, thanks everyone for playing, and the next time I host the game will be much tamer by comparison. SEND ME GAMES
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02-12-2019, 03:47 AM | #2 |
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Re: SEND ME GAMES THIS IS NOT A JOKE also postgame here
rip the ASMR read
thanks for hosting man, it was fun |
02-12-2019, 12:28 PM | #3 |
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Sorry I fell off and went MIA
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02-12-2019, 02:51 PM | #4 |
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Re: SEND ME GAMES THIS IS NOT A JOKE also postgame here
ASMR is inherently sexual just admit your vice and stop playing it off smh
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02-12-2019, 07:42 PM | #5 |
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02-12-2019, 09:44 PM | #6 |
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Re: SEND ME GAMES THIS IS NOT A JOKE also postgame here
If you intentionally spun the game a certain way using RNG, I would advise you not to do that.
EDIT: I'll send you a game
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02-12-2019, 10:18 PM | #7 |
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Do you mean with the dreidel rolls? That is a lot of gimel I suppose, but I think the way it's designed the wolves need to be closer to an endgame scenario by kinara lighting or it tips pretty drastically in favor of town thereafter, even with the wolves boosted (though I suppose it might've been different with MW)
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02-13-2019, 08:23 AM | #8 |
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I mean, thats just rng, forcing it to work one way or another out of "less boringness" is still unfair to players, and takes away trust from the host rolls
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you're just saying this because you benefitted from the shittiest rng ever which was the itas in sunfan and starcrossed's game. rng is cruel
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02-13-2019, 10:31 AM | #10 |
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02-13-2019, 10:32 AM | #11 |
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02-13-2019, 10:34 AM | #12 |
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
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02-13-2019, 02:44 PM | #13 |
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02-13-2019, 05:26 PM | #14 |
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idk what kind of game i wanna submit tbh
like i have ~ideas~ but i haven't really sat on them enough to decide whether they're good, and also idk if anyone would want to play ootc again right away (determines some adjustments) |
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no I did not intentionally alter dreidel results
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02-13-2019, 08:52 PM | #16 |
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Flashflashaccount your a great host btw. Sunfan totally deserves MVP this game, I'm just proud I was read human and able to survive a game on the green side because it has been forever. I would really like to play this exact game again sometime in the future, with perhaps some twerks for the benefit of the red team to give the humans a greater challenge...a lot of what screwed them over was just bad luck from the start...but this game's structure is really solid and fun for any holiday occasion, especially because the buildup to the kinara lighting is a really fun element.
Also I agree ASMR isnt sexual lol, I didnt even know what it was until it came up in the news the other day...and to me it seems more like being lull'd into a hynoptoc and suggestive state off of the comforting sound stimuli...which must change brain wave patterns. Last edited by Lightknight924; 02-13-2019 at 08:55 PM.. |
02-13-2019, 09:48 PM | #17 |
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thanks nakah <3
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02-13-2019, 09:53 PM | #18 |
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ASMR is inherently sexual
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02-13-2019, 11:23 PM | #19 |
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by far the most Nakah thing I've ever seen in my life.
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02-13-2019, 11:25 PM | #20 |
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yea if only the wolves had twerked more maybe they would've won
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