Regarding all future officials

[noname219]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Guitar Hero

Except in Guitar Hero, it doesn't matter if you hit the note early or late, it's either you have it, or you miss it. Therefore the need of combo scoring.

[Garquillex]

I accidentally voted for option 2

I meant 3

[noname219]

Originally Posted by qqwref

The indeed system has separate high score tables for combo and raw scoring... not really an option for FFR unless we can get a lot more space, since the high score tables are already pretty gigantic.

Originally Posted by i love you

Raw scoring will not be difficult to implant. All FFR needs is extra space.

About that free space thing, what if we get to display the two scoring types in the same page ??

I mean, like this :

(clicking on Raw score or Combo score will display the leaders)

If it's possible, we could even save more space by deleting the old raw scores table.

[Izzy]

There is an easier solution. Buy a harddrive from this decade. Having only 20gb of space is really sad.

[noname219]

I thought it was 80 GB ?
Either way, it's Synth decision. And, with the amount of new posts and threads every day, it's a matter of time until we hit the roof.

[Wayward Vagabond]

purge everything and lets start fresh.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

purge everything and lets start fresh.

yes

[i love you]

Originally Posted by Izzy

There is an easier solution. Buy a harddrive from this decade. Having only 20gb of space is really sad.

WOW...

ONLY 20GBS? LOL WUT LMAO

Wow, if this is true, that solution would solve almost EVERYTHING...

Damn it FFR, I could spare one of mine TB hard-drives if that is really the main issue...

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

That's extra work to rip the step counts out of the score

which we already have

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

calculate the raw from the counts

which the engine is already calculating

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

and compare those.

which we are already doing in the dashboard.

The time issue is actually setting up the raw score database, and yeah, that'll take some time. But here we are focusing on the tournament and that is basically zero extra work to add raw.

[~Zeta~]

I doubt the batch could withstand the demand on files (not quality) for two tournaments. Would rather play decent files instead of haphazard spur for something to publish for rounds (see: 7th official, nothing personal, just showing what happened)

Once a year switching between raw and combo would be fine.

[Poison-]

Raw, once a year.

[Frank Munoz]

Why not just use both methods in one tourney?
Kinda like Doss' brutality tourneys.

[Breakdown16]

Originally Posted by Frank Munoz

Why not just use both methods in one tourney?
Kinda like Doss' brutality tourneys.

Potentially possible, but it seems like there would be a lot of debate over this. For example, the tournaments are elimination style, right? So if there's somebody who placed, say, first in both scoring methods, would they win double the prizes (credits)? Or would the pot be split evenly between combo and raw scoring? How about token prizes? Other potential prizes (T-shirt, cash, etc.)?

P.S. Support for raw scoring.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Breakdown16

Potentially possible, but it seems like there would be a lot of debate over this. For example, the tournaments are elimination style, right? So if there's somebody who placed, say, first in both scoring methods, would they win double the prizes (credits)? Or would the pot be split evenly between combo and raw scoring? How about token prizes? Other potential prizes (T-shirt, cash, etc.)?

P.S. Support for raw scoring.

They could just make it so that you can only join one specific scoring type method. I would assume the pot would be split in half, while token prizes and or potential prizes would require doubly high placing to achieve.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by gabrieljd

lol

way to cut off all of the relevant points of the post and laugh. if you don't have a contributing response to me, then don't say it.

@ qqwref: point taken.

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by Frank Munoz

Why not just use both methods in one tourney?
Kinda like Doss' brutality tourneys.

I was in Brutality 3 and that used a scoring system like duplicate bridge, comparing raw scores and granting points based on the number of people your score topped. Whoever had the most points at the end of the tourney won.

...oh, you're talking about how you could enter for combo, raw or both. Okay, I see what you mean.

I think most people in unofficial tournies use raw scores not because it's a "truer gauge of skill" but because the numbers are easier to work with. I'd rather juggle 5-digit numbers than 7, thank you.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I wanted to surprise people with the raw scoring for this upcoming tournament.

So when are we getting it for all of the tournaments and not just this one?
That's really the whole point of this thread. People want change, but never speak up - or they do and it get ignored. This isn't that big a request, and obviously the majority of people would prefer this.
This thread is a statement to the higher ups showing what we, the users, want.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by noname219

Except in Guitar Hero, it doesn't matter if you hit the note early or late, it's either you have it, or you miss it. Therefore the need of combo scoring.

Nah. It could simply be about how many notes you get and that's it. Like FFR, the emphasis on combo is huge. And like ffr you're gonna get a much better score if you get 4 misses in the beginning than just one in the middle of the song.

However, "boos" in Guitar Hero wreck your combo...

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by T-Force

So when are we getting it for all of the tournaments and not just this one?
That's really the whole point of this thread. People want change, but never speak up - or they do and it get ignored. This isn't that big a request, and obviously the majority of people would prefer this.
This thread is a statement to the higher ups showing what we, the users, want.

That is usually something you shouldn't ever say unless you can back up why it isn't a big request, lol.

As far as I know, FFR doesn't segregate the best raw scores and total scores - your best total score won't necessarily be your best PA run. There needs to be a way to fix that so the database can record things the way it should, haha.

[Senri Akane]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Guitar Hero

uhhh I believe osu! standard places the most emphasis on combo scoring than any other game lmao

it's the easiest game to miss in