League of Legends [v2]

[lumphoboextreme]

will be diamond again in probably a few weeks. working a lot so i don't have too much time to play but i'll get there eventually

[YoshL]

just started playing this and i'm trash lol

[_Zenith_]

With a constantly changing game, it's rough early on. You'll get the hang of it if you keep playing and hit level 30.

Don't play Ranked because lolragefest.

Speaking of Ranked, what in the fuck is AD Fizz? Mid or Top, it's insane how well he does vs most champs cept when in top against Garen, cause Garen is still broken.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Speaking of Ranked, what in the fuck is AD Fizz?

The rework moved a ton of power to his W, so he works really well with an on-hit/AS bruiser-style build, similar to how you build Irelia or Jax.
He's squishier than them (no W heal or tenacity as Irelia has and no Jax E/Ult to tank) but he does more damage than them because of the R debuff and even more sticking power.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Garen is still broken.

???

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

The rework moved a ton of power to his W, so he works really well with an on-hit/AS bruiser-style build, similar to how you build Irelia or Jax.
He's squishier than them (no W heal or tenacity as Irelia has and no Jax E/Ult to tank) but he does more damage than them because of the R debuff and even more sticking power.

???

Ever since Garen's passive buff, he is literally unstoppable. I haven't lost as Garen in Ranked yet because you can rush a brutilizer and immediately get sunfire/warmogs and you can survive anything at that point.

iirc if you max Garen's E first (starts at 60% iirc), by level 5 it is doing 90% which with a brut plus 11 AD from runes has it about ~130-150 damage per hit from E that rips through the enemies' life.

Vs squish like riven, lee, jax top (compared to Garen) are simple, having tanks top vs Garen makes it a CS match leading to Garen having an advantage because of his high damage minion clear.

[Trogdor!!!!]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Ever since Garen's passive buff, he is literally unstoppable. I haven't lost as Garen in Ranked yet because you can rush a brutilizer and immediately get sunfire/warmogs and you can survive anything at that point.

iirc if you max Garen's E first (starts at 60% iirc), by level 5 it is doing 90% which with a brut plus 11 AD from runes has it about ~130-150 damage per hit from E that rips through the enemies' life.

Vs squish like riven, lee, jax top (compared to Garen) are simple, having tanks top vs Garen makes it a CS match leading to Garen having an advantage because of his high damage minion clear.

lol

[YoshL]

yeah, i'm only at level 10 and it seems like a looooong way to level 30

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by YoshL

yeah, i'm only at level 10 and it seems like a looooong way to level 30

When I started I just played 3s until 30 (back before they had queue restrictions) but it's gotten a lot more serious in recent times

Games are literally decided in the first 7 minutes of a 3s Game

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by YoshL

yeah, i'm only at level 10 and it seems like a looooong way to level 30

It is a long way.
Enjoy it, no need to rush, 30 isn't anything particularly special.
Like you hit 30 and, congrats you unlocked a more expensive tier of runes and are now queued with people who have been playing longer and are more jaded and prone to raging. Wow, what a reward- enjoy the climb man.

Also Garen in 5s is pretty useful as a situational lane bully counterpick (definitely nice against poke-less melee ability-based champs like Riven), but he's hardly broken. I'd be glad to lane against a first pick Garen any day, just pick Lissandra and roll my face on the keyboard to win lane, then have 100x the impact in teamfights too. Garen in 3s is a different beast, largely because I don't even think Riot's balance team knows 3s is a game mode.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by YoshL

yeah, i'm only at level 10 and it seems like a looooong way to level 30

Best advice I can give. Do NOT buy any runes until level 30. Or if you do, make sure they are the highest tier runes, not the low tier.

[Doug31]

Garen isn't that good. You must be low elo or something. If the other team works together and positions well, there's really not much he can do in teamfights. Although surely if they're way out of position and you can spin to win against 1 enemy at a time he'd sure seem OP.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Doug31

You must be low elo or something.

Plat 5 (94 LP) Solo Queue

Plat 3 (0 LP) Ranked 3s.

I had a good laugh at this, but whatever you all may say about Garen, he has never failed for me when I have used him. I don't play him as a tank in the sense I don't sit around to soak damage, I single out a carry and ignite Q E Ult and that carry 95% of the time gets melted.

Still using the mindset of Season 1 where Garen is more as an Assassin than tank. That's the complete opposite now in recent time.

[hi19hi19]

I think he's implying the fact that if you can successfully get on a carry as a zero gap-closer melee champion with no tank items, the problem is with the people you are facing more than the champ you are playing. I feel that works only as long as their Thresh doesn't know how to press E, when he does then suddenly your champion is completely useless outside Flashing on them.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I think he's implying the fact that if you can successfully get on a carry as a zero gap-closer melee champion with no tank items, the problem is with the people you are facing more than the champ you are playing. I feel that works only as long as their Thresh doesn't know how to press E, then suddenly your champion is completely useless.

Zero gap closer? Ghost plus Q and you're pretty much outrunning anyone without a dash even if they have the chance to use it.

Garen in 3s is different because now the Challenger teams use duo comps to counter such a pick. Duo > Solo in 3s any time, hell, they even counter jungles in 3s.

That is pretty obvious though.

[Xiz]

3s games are so much fun, because 90% of people in em don't know proper strats to win it.

And I fucked up my MMR this season sadly. I lost 12 in a row and tanked down to plat 5. Now it's +13 -21 lol.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Xiz

3s games are so much fun, because 90% of people in em don't know proper strats to win it.

And I fucked up my MMR this season sadly. I lost 12 in a row and tanked down to plat 5. Now it's +13 -21 lol.

Lower than Plat in 3s still rocks double solo with a jungler but it's becoming so popular that supports are now popular bans in 3s such as Leo, Thresh, and Braum.

Though it's stupid how easy first blood is when you invade jungle early or setup in bottom or top bush.

iirc there is a way to just show tier 3 runes in your book but I only have T3 runes so I cannot confirm.

EDIT: Oh, Hi19, I do not ever go straight damage on Garen. Warmog, Sunfire, Randuin or Visage (situational) are must-buys when I play him. Even a Giant Belt rush in lane is well enough sustain with his passive buff.

[hi19hi19]

They nerfed the price (and variety) of low tier runes, they're literally like 5 IP each now, so they're actually not a bad investment if you care to get them. Of course they still barely do anything and do clutter up your rune book though once you hit 30, which can be annoying. idk if there's a way to hide all but t3 runes or something.

[YoshL]

someone teach me things lol

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by YoshL

someone teach me things lol

You're a smart dude; the more you play, the more you'll start to learn about the basics.

Play who you feel like playing. Any champion that sparks your interest or roles.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by YoshL

someone teach me things lol

i'll be on tomorrow. I'll play a few games with you then.