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09-10-2012, 03:38 PM | #1862 |
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09-10-2012, 11:15 PM | #1863 |
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I 100% support the scoring change, it's not fair that I'm forced to mash an old FGO just to get the rank better than 500, and then it's still hard to do.
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09-10-2012, 11:55 PM | #1864 |
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The sooner we'll change the scoring system, the easier the transition will be.
The main reason I see why admins don't want to change the scoring system is the current scores won't translate very well into raw scoring. That's the only reason I can think of. But I will 100% approve a change for this because it will made the game even more interesting.
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09-11-2012, 12:02 AM | #1865 |
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I'm pretty sure the current scores could pretty easily be transferred to raw without much problem
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09-11-2012, 12:12 AM | #1866 | |
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09-11-2012, 03:06 AM | #1867 |
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I like combo scoring
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09-11-2012, 07:23 AM | #1868 | |
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09-11-2012, 10:58 AM | #1870 | |
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That's what I thougth, but, we have to start somewhere. If we move from combo scoring to raw scoring, the link foxfire posted is probably the best way to make a transition. (or maybe, just maybe we could translate the combo scoring page (without all hackers-alt-botters) to the raw scoring page...)
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09-11-2012, 03:09 PM | #1871 |
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Why do you like combo scoring?
Forgot about that. Even still, it could just be altered so that raw scoring ranks take priority over combo scoring ranks, and then raw scoring is used for average ranks instead. All that means is I get the satisfaction of playing all my older mashed songs through PA and watching all of the ranks drastically improve.
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09-11-2012, 03:27 PM | #1872 | |
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I don't care either way if combo-scoring is maintained or removed. I'm not one of those people who were complaining about FFR moving towards a near-counterpart of SM. Who cares if it becomes really similar? So I'm fine with removing combo scoring if it does happen. I think right now, more people are concerned about the way their scores are determined rather than trying to stand out from SM as much as possible. The people who would move back to SM if FFR became really similar would only be a small loss overall. In regards to "fairness": in a similar aspect of weighing the pros and cons, I would think it's more beneficial to change a fundamental aspect of the game rather than to preserve acknowledgment for XXX number of players who have played the game the "harder, traditional way". Not only that, I think removing combo-scoring is a more progressive decision that would move the site forward a lot better. In regards to "amount of work involved", well...maybe that's a problem. What would it take? Last edited by bmah; 09-11-2012 at 03:29 PM.. |
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09-11-2012, 04:52 PM | #1873 | |
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I personally don't care if combo scoring still exists, as long as it doesn't dictate the leader boards or average ranks. These things should represent how accurately you can play the chart, not how high of a combo you can mash.
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09-11-2012, 05:26 PM | #1874 |
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That has been the general reasoning for a long time. As I said already, a lot of people are now opting for the change instead. But the biggest challenge now is not changing people's mindset, but rather, how exactly to code raw scoring in as the main scoring factor. That and the time required to code it in.
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09-11-2012, 05:57 PM | #1875 |
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I don't want to be given the illusion that I'm good at FGOs when I'm not. One of my favorite things to do on FFR is try for new FCs I wasn't able to get before and that would be a pointless effort if raw scoring becomes the new thing. I don't mash out FCs for the most part so each new FC proves to me that I'm getting better.
It's not a good argument I know, but it makes sense to me.
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09-11-2012, 06:13 PM | #1876 | |
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Raw scoring doesn't defeat the purpose of getting FC's, but instead takes away the ridiculous weight that combo has on your rank. It would also make full combos actually meaningful skill wise, considering you would have to full combo with your best PA to obtain them in your FC bar (meaning Quickdraw and Here We Go would actually mean something). If you don't mash FC's, then this will have very little effect on how you play FFR. The only difference it would make for you is that your average rank would improve, and you could focus on accuracy instead of combo. Considering that this is a rhythm game, how well you move to the rhythm should really be the most important factor in how you are ranked.
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09-12-2012, 01:14 AM | #1877 |
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Still doesn't change my mind. Also because I've mashed the FGOs I'm bad at enough to get good ranks on all of them, I'd have to replay all of them to get better raw score which would not be fun in the slightest. Those files hurt my hands.
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09-12-2012, 01:19 AM | #1878 |
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While I have some FGO's mashed to have better ranks even though I didn't FC them, I would still prefer to go back and play them over time and improve my raw score, sure the files aren't fun to go through, but after doing so it would better reflect your real skill.
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09-12-2012, 01:58 AM | #1879 |
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+1 raw scoring. It would be interesting to see my new levelranks
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09-12-2012, 02:21 AM | #1880 | |
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You not being an amazing player has no bearing on why combo scoring should be kept, such a notion is pretty selfish to even mention in the first place. If you aren't good enough to do well on these files, you should get better until you are able to do so. You shouldn't be rewarded for doing terrible on files, and you certainly shouldn't hinder others who can do well with these sorts of scores. PS: Do you honestly believe that if you were to mash an FC on this file, that this run should be significantly WORSE than yours? Do you believe that others who play accurately but miss should abandon accuracy and mash away to "improve their skill" on files? I genuinely hope not.
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