TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Also hello Raeko!

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

hiya!

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

how are you feeling Lewdy? Got any hot takes for me

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Subaru is emulating his town game and rolled wolf

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I have absolutely 0 evidence to support this take

[YoshL]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

smacked with irl til now, and even now i should be starting to cook

to address sunfan specifically:
saying "yoshl is playing like a natural town, and i don't have anything to point out therefore because yoshl can act this way as scum, scumread."
sure PoE exists with people playing towny, but at the same time, the reasoning feels like garbage tier lazy and it's not something i expect coming from sunfan especially.
i also agree with freezin in that you're playing pretty safe, in not actually giving concrete scumreads. out of your PoE, it wasn't that you had a specific person who you had most scummy, but you've fallen back on the "well i wanted people to talk about freezin" from what it looks like. no actual commitment to the hunt of scum tbh

post #1081 plop says haku is making sense right now, and i would very hard disagree, because his reads progression is literally nonexistent from what i can glean.

post #1088 I actually like freezin's reaction to sunfan, mostly because it's pretty heavily mirroring what i'm thinking tbh. I think freezin town here 9 times out of 10, don't think he comes back and picks a fight with sunfan like that if he's W and gets a pressure vote - he's actually looking into sunfan's actions and case and addressing that fact - that sunfan doesn't seem to actually have any cases towards his non-PoE, and is trying to push worlds that aren't the main ones being discussed at the time.

Trevor's #1136 post i'd like to comment on a bit, because i feel like there's a couple good points, but they amount to stuff that i think could either be NAI or wolf leaning given the context.
The first section where he mentions fg's vote on plop is a weak, because i don't think that really amounts to "distancing" in any traditional sense, throwing a vote onto plop at EoD.
The hindsight section is actually throwing me for a loop because even earlier in the game sunfan was like "hey my bones are a rattlin we're gonna hit green" and there wasn't too much said about that.
I don't think plop's post that t-force is referring to is actually even bad, because i think most people were on that same mindset of voting ulle d0, so plop isn't even wrong there.

I also think that his analysis on Haku being town is super weak. "It would be very hard to keep up that facade for so long" is more or less just an assumption that can't really be backed up with any in thread evidence - none of the actual analyzing done was spent on what they were actually saying, or how haku's reads and opinions were developing (i still can't follow haku's progressions lmao)

#1171 - one of the few good Tforce posts this game i think but doesn't really change the overarching wolfy vibe tbh

(intermission) throughout thread, I personally *still* don't have a good grasp on mellon, i'm not reading her on either side, i've seen stuff like "she's more assertive this game" and a couple other things, but if someone can explain like more in-depth why they're reading mellon the way they are, i'd appreciate

#1210 - plop says

Also also, with the exception of sunfan, people kept townreading you with minimal explanation given, and since no one really answered me when I asked them to elaborate, I got contrarian and leaned into the scumread harder than I would've otherwise, lol...

which again is literally what i feel, and i don't think i grasp even plop's reasoning other than "i was wrong last time" i think?

#1234 - ok never mind actually lmao i think i remember now someone pointed out earlier the mellon advice and this actually feels so towny, i was thinking the same thing as haku started back up with the three wolf world build
still, to me it feels like such a weird feeling that i feel like i know, but i don't actually know, and am still wondering if anyone else can like, elucidate this kind of thing still

stopped right before plop wall, will continue with that. sunfan claims that "Yoshl, Force, Freezin & plop" are part of his non poe, and actually reading back through his post #1073, that raeko read is so gas filled that it'd blow away with a fart like, damn why is she not part of PoE when she fits your criteria, especially in that no-one really has been talking about her? again looking back, it feels super contrived and not actually a quality PoE

brb corn

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Hmmmm....

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I need to go back a bit and do some reading when I get to a computer

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

alright time to do some work

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flashflash account (5) - fatfuck42, DaBackpack, Shadow_God_10, TWGma, Ulleabhara
Ulleabhara (4) - Xiz, FreezinIce, mellonxcollie, Funnygurl555
TWGma (2) - YoshL, Hakulyte
DaBackpack (1) - the sun fan

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Not Voting (1): flashflash account

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I moved Ulli's vote to FFA because for all intents and purposes thats where it was.

Now,for a wagon analysis you'd ideally like to have 1 red flip to really start being able to draw conclusions. The fact that both the top wagons are definitively town is also not great. So this is more to organize my thoughts than anything.

You have 2 major groups that emerge from this EoD:

>People who have took a side on FFA vs Ulli
>People who stayed out of it for various reasons

from a wolfs pov as a human vs human interaction with no stakes in the outcome, i would bet the safer play would be to stay out compared to weigh in.

So i think that there is likely a wolf in the following group of people who stayed out of the EoD clusterfuck (Sunfan, YoshiL, Haku).

I think law of averages puts a wolf in the other group as well, so the trick now is finding which of those votes looks the most out of place.

(20 Mins later)

Well i reread eod a few times and theres and this is what i have

Good:

>DBP had an actual reason for his vote that made sense
>Xiz had an actual reason for his vote that made sense
>Mellos vote made sense because you could see the thought process that led to her finally settling on Ulli

???:

>Fg voted plop then ulli. I read the explanation that someone else gave for why she did it and was like "ok w/e"
>Plop started the FFA Wagon, dunno if thats good or bad, he was kind of slow burning on FFA then this comes out of nowhere

Bad

shadow moved his vote like 28945432879 times
tforce materialized a vote from nowhere on FFA

So 2nd wolf can be within (FG/Subaru, Plop, Shadow, Tforce)

3rd wolf could be in either of those groups

Dont think DBP is wolfing
Dont think Mello is wolfing

After resetting and actually thinking about the game, those are my only 2 ride or die townreads, everyone else is on the table.

Stay tuned for part 2 coming whenever i feel like it

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

my wallpost got preempted by another wall post zzzzzzzz

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

please tell me who I am either townreading that I shouldn't be, or mafiareading that I shouldn't be, aside from you

>Sunfan reads post 1073 for reference

I dont think FG/Subaru is a solid town, i think you are reaching with the assumption you made on why she switched from plop to Ulli and willfully ignoring the entire debacle that was her eod, including some stuff i would borderline call open wolfing. I expect you to revise that read heavily especially since subaru replaced into the slot.

I agree with your townread on Raeko in principle but it feels weak. If you actually felt how you described she should be closer to null or even on the table. You pretty much even admitted as such near the end of that read.

There was alot of filler words in your bottom scum list and my eyes glazed over involuntarily. w/e

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Have you read DBP's post ? I think having your stance on that stuff is kinda important.

it sure felt like a thing that dbp would think and post.

I really cant wrap my head around a dynamic between fg / tforce but ill try to read it again later and ill update if i have any new thoughts

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

i think im done digging my past self out of all the holes i fell in when i was barely coherently playing the game

sup

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

is anyone out there

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I think freezin town here 9 times out of 10, don't think he comes back and picks a fight with sunfan like that if he's W and gets a pressure vote

Freezin literally plays this game hoping he ends up in a thunderdome with someone
its his fetish