Kongregate Brag Board - Page 89

**rushyrulz** · 11-6-2008, 04:04 PM

I don't know why everyone's getting so worked up about Zilch... It might not even get badges.

Card game for Tass, read whenever you're ready...:
take a deck and shuffle it. Lay down the cards in rows and play as you go. You can join two cards if they're the same number or same suit and either right next to each other or has 2 cards between them. The goal is to end with 1 stack of cards.

Good luck beating this 1 in 500k chance game!
Or Rubix or Tass can figure exact statistics if they're bored enough..

**Tasselfoot** · 11-6-2008, 06:35 PM

Hanna in a Choppa vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0szDEajHG4

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 11-6-2008, 07:18 PM

Gah! Two more achievments to go on Hanna in a Choppa. And it is the speed and perfect ones too. I dont think i will be able to get the perfect ones though. Some levels i just cant do. lol.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-6-2008, 09:28 PM

speed is easy.... just go balls to the walls. perfect... do the opposite. be extremely cautious.

not that bad. IMO, only 8 and the very top of 19 are hard for getting perfect. 21 is LONG, but not that hard.

darkness3608 · 11-6-2008, 10:05 PM

ok I will add my name on here because I did start to play because games were fun ;p

Darkness3608 is still the username
only lvl 5 ... If I played it more often it would be higher.

MrRubix · 11-6-2008, 11:37 PM

Finally got the Hard Badge on STH3. That laser weapon made all the difference. I also used two shields and one laser instead of my previous setup of two lasers and one shield. I didn't realize how much of a punch that laser delivered. It just completely tears mechs and tanks apart, lol.

As for Zilch, I'm extremely close to 400 plays. I've been slaving away at this thing for *hours* today. It's disgusting.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-7-2008, 02:24 AM

Hanna in a Choppa... perfect level 8 and 19... done on request: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYexWbrX3go

MrRubix · 11-7-2008, 05:57 AM

I basically just pulled an all-nighter on Zilch. Gold-plated is 500.

Also got 530 on 99 Blocks -- wasn't hard to do at all (although it's not super impressive or anything). Having a strong base is usually a pretty good idea. Around 350 or so, I started making my tower narrower in order to jack up the height. I messed up though and lost a lot of progress, but I could have gotten a lot higher.

**Patashu** · 11-7-2008, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRubix

I basically just pulled an all-nighter on Zilch. Gold-plated is 500.

Also got 530 on 99 Blocks -- wasn't hard to do at all (although it's not super impressive or anything). Having a strong base is usually a pretty good idea. Around 350 or so, I started making my tower narrower in order to jack up the height. I messed up though and lost a lot of progress, but I could have gotten a lot higher.

I still want someone to confirm my 'horizontal blocks make a stabler tower' theory

so next time you play, try and preferentially place blocks horizontally in a position where they won't topple outwards easily (it's okay to discard blocks, your tower usually falls apart before you run out anyway hehe)

MrRubix · 11-7-2008, 06:51 AM

I think it has some logic to it -- sometimes I'd place the long skinny blocks horizontally to sort of "ensnare" pieces below it so that things don't fall out. In the long run, stability really gets you the higher tower potential. After a certain point though it seems optimal to just go spire-style, making long, skinny towers that will eventually topple, but such that you can spike at a record height. But you need a strong base to do it off of.

y0ttabyte · 11-7-2008, 07:43 AM

I got 724 in 99 blocks. The base is the key. I try to follow the horizontal theory, it seems to work. Also try to avoid making mini towers i.e. lots of S/Z/O blocks stacked on top of each other, so interleave the blocks as much as possible. Mini towers oscillate very easily and can weaken your structure immensely. Once I get to about 250-300 and there is any hint of oscillation beginning to occur, I begin to quickly thin out the tower and make a spire. You can easily make 1-2 block wide spires go as high as 300 units if your base has low oscillatory behaviour (my 724 was extremely strong, even with a 200 high spire it was not oscillating at all). If you guys have any more hints share, it seems I learn more about the games dynamics every time I play.

EDIT: Just scored 692 experimenting with some new techniques:

Note the S and Z blocks at the bottom with arrows. If you can support these well enough you can have a tower base 10 blocks wide, which seems to add support if care is taken using the usual interleaving and horizontal blocks (also note I have I blocks covering gaps which seem not to detract from the towers' structure, gaps in most other cases do so). This is nowhere near optimal, as my tower thinned out greatly at 250 due to bad blocks. My weakness is still not choosing blocks wisely, as you can tell by my blocks remaining after my peak height. My spire went from the height you see in this picture to 692, could have been more if I was faster on my feet. I did get a tonne of consecutive O blocks which helped though.

EDIT 2: A more optimised tower and personal best score. I wish I could get a screenie of the whole tower, its too hard to get one though without comprising score. The base is probably the most crucial part anyway:

Note the J and L blocks work quite well for "buttresses" also. I slowly thinned my tower out up to about 350, and with the 10 wide base it was solid as a rock. I timed my spire quite well also, only having 8 blocks remaining after collapse. The tower only collapsed due to inbalance of the spire, so still not optimal. Absolutely no oscillations occurring even above 600 units. Rubix was mentioning clipping blocks by a pixel in chat, my technique is to place the blocks sideways if possible if I'm unsure. Using this technique you can even fix up blocks misplaced a half a block wide, although your tower usually doesn't react well to it after a while it seems.

MrRubix · 11-7-2008, 08:25 AM

LOL that's literally the same strategy I am using right now

**Kotarouchan** · 11-7-2008, 10:40 AM

Has anyone noticed that Nano War's tutorial level became Level 1 and everything got pushed up a level (now there's 15 levels)?

y0ttabyte · 11-7-2008, 11:29 AM

Has it affected the badges? I always worried about that game with badges. The creator has always indicated he planned to put more levels into that game.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-7-2008, 02:02 PM

I know for a fact that level 11 of Nano Wars changed... because people have asked me to re-do my guide. But I haven't. Cause I'm lazy.

Pretty annoying for an author to change his game AFTER it gets badges. Oh well though.

MrRubix · 11-7-2008, 05:43 PM

I am helping gaby fix his stuff so it counts correctly lol.

**GG_Guru** · 11-7-2008, 05:45 PM

Lmao, Kongregate.

MrRubix · 11-7-2008, 10:38 PM

I decided to suck it up and redo the Zilch wins.

Got all 120 now. Whew.

banditcom · 11-7-2008, 11:13 PM

Got the Hard badge on StH3.

The last level seems more toned down than when I played it a few days ago in sandbox mode. I already knew to spam the space laser but it was a lot tougher than now. o_O *shrugs* It wasn't so bad once you play around with weapons and towers a bit to see what rapes.

**HalfStep** · 11-8-2008, 12:35 AM

Add me to the list ;P
Kong Accnt : Half

^.^

11-6-2008, 04:04 PM	#1
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 33 Posts: 12,985	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I don't know why everyone's getting so worked up about Zilch... It might not even get badges. Card game for Tass, read whenever you're ready...: take a deck and shuffle it. Lay down the cards in rows and play as you go. You can join two cards if they're the same number or same suit and either right next to each other or has 2 cards between them. The goal is to end with 1 stack of cards. Good luck beating this 1 in 500k chance game! Or Rubix or Tass can figure exact statistics if they're bored enough.. __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 11-6-2008 at 04:08 PM..

11-6-2008, 06:35 PM	#2
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Hanna in a Choppa vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0szDEajHG4 __________________ RIP

11-6-2008, 07:18 PM	#3
Plan_Bsk81127 snooches Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 34 Posts: 6,420	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Gah! Two more achievments to go on Hanna in a Choppa. And it is the speed and perfect ones too. I dont think i will be able to get the perfect ones though. Some levels i just cant do. lol.

11-6-2008, 09:28 PM	#4
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! speed is easy.... just go balls to the walls. perfect... do the opposite. be extremely cautious. not that bad. IMO, only 8 and the very top of 19 are hard for getting perfect. 21 is LONG, but not that hard. __________________ RIP

11-6-2008, 10:05 PM	#5
darkness3608 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 867	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! ok I will add my name on here because I did start to play because games were fun ;p Darkness3608 is still the username only lvl 5 ... If I played it more often it would be higher. __________________ Best FC= The Field Of Snow Best AAA= Dance 2 This 4th place in jons FFR Polymath 5th place in Funmonkeys and kjwkjw's tourney

11-6-2008, 11:37 PM	#6
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Finally got the Hard Badge on STH3. That laser weapon made all the difference. I also used two shields and one laser instead of my previous setup of two lasers and one shield. I didn't realize how much of a punch that laser delivered. It just completely tears mechs and tanks apart, lol. As for Zilch, I'm extremely close to 400 plays. I've been slaving away at this thing for hours today. It's disgusting.

11-7-2008, 02:24 AM	#7
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Hanna in a Choppa... perfect level 8 and 19... done on request: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYexWbrX3go __________________ RIP

11-7-2008, 05:57 AM	#8
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I basically just pulled an all-nighter on Zilch. Gold-plated is 500. Also got 530 on 99 Blocks -- wasn't hard to do at all (although it's not super impressive or anything). Having a strong base is usually a pretty good idea. Around 350 or so, I started making my tower narrower in order to jack up the height. I messed up though and lost a lot of progress, but I could have gotten a lot higher.

11-7-2008, 06:51 AM	#10
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I think it has some logic to it -- sometimes I'd place the long skinny blocks horizontally to sort of "ensnare" pieces below it so that things don't fall out. In the long run, stability really gets you the higher tower potential. After a certain point though it seems optimal to just go spire-style, making long, skinny towers that will eventually topple, but such that you can spike at a record height. But you need a strong base to do it off of.

11-7-2008, 07:43 AM	#11
y0ttabyte 1208925819614629174706176 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 417	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I got 724 in 99 blocks. The base is the key. I try to follow the horizontal theory, it seems to work. Also try to avoid making mini towers i.e. lots of S/Z/O blocks stacked on top of each other, so interleave the blocks as much as possible. Mini towers oscillate very easily and can weaken your structure immensely. Once I get to about 250-300 and there is any hint of oscillation beginning to occur, I begin to quickly thin out the tower and make a spire. You can easily make 1-2 block wide spires go as high as 300 units if your base has low oscillatory behaviour (my 724 was extremely strong, even with a 200 high spire it was not oscillating at all). If you guys have any more hints share, it seems I learn more about the games dynamics every time I play. EDIT: Just scored 692 experimenting with some new techniques: Note the S and Z blocks at the bottom with arrows. If you can support these well enough you can have a tower base 10 blocks wide, which seems to add support if care is taken using the usual interleaving and horizontal blocks (also note I have I blocks covering gaps which seem not to detract from the towers' structure, gaps in most other cases do so). This is nowhere near optimal, as my tower thinned out greatly at 250 due to bad blocks. My weakness is still not choosing blocks wisely, as you can tell by my blocks remaining after my peak height. My spire went from the height you see in this picture to 692, could have been more if I was faster on my feet. I did get a tonne of consecutive O blocks which helped though. EDIT 2: A more optimised tower and personal best score. I wish I could get a screenie of the whole tower, its too hard to get one though without comprising score. The base is probably the most crucial part anyway: Note the J and L blocks work quite well for "buttresses" also. I slowly thinned my tower out up to about 350, and with the 10 wide base it was solid as a rock. I timed my spire quite well also, only having 8 blocks remaining after collapse. The tower only collapsed due to inbalance of the spire, so still not optimal. Absolutely no oscillations occurring even above 600 units. Rubix was mentioning clipping blocks by a pixel in chat, my technique is to place the blocks sideways if possible if I'm unsure. Using this technique you can even fix up blocks misplaced a half a block wide, although your tower usually doesn't react well to it after a while it seems. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by y0ttabyte; 11-7-2008 at 08:30 AM..

11-7-2008, 08:25 AM	#12
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! LOL that's literally the same strategy I am using right now

11-7-2008, 10:40 AM	#13
Kotarouchan I only need 3 seconds :) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South California Age: 38 Posts: 2,030	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Has anyone noticed that Nano War's tutorial level became Level 1 and everything got pushed up a level (now there's 15 levels)? __________________

11-7-2008, 11:29 AM	#14
y0ttabyte 1208925819614629174706176 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 417	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Has it affected the badges? I always worried about that game with badges. The creator has always indicated he planned to put more levels into that game. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11-7-2008, 02:02 PM	#15
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I know for a fact that level 11 of Nano Wars changed... because people have asked me to re-do my guide. But I haven't. Cause I'm lazy. Pretty annoying for an author to change his game AFTER it gets badges. Oh well though. __________________ RIP

11-7-2008, 05:43 PM	#16
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I am helping gaby fix his stuff so it counts correctly lol. Last edited by MrRubix; 11-7-2008 at 06:12 PM..

11-7-2008, 05:45 PM	#17
GG_Guru Let em' do what they want Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,219	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Lmao, Kongregate. __________________

11-7-2008, 10:38 PM	#18
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! I decided to suck it up and redo the Zilch wins. Got all 120 now. Whew.

11-7-2008, 11:13 PM	#19
banditcom FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Willimantic, CT Age: 43 Posts: 6,243	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Got the Hard badge on StH3. The last level seems more toned down than when I played it a few days ago in sandbox mode. I already knew to spam the space laser but it was a lot tougher than now. o_O shrugs It wasn't so bad once you play around with weapons and towers a bit to see what rapes.

11-8-2008, 12:35 AM	#20
HalfStep Can't AAA anything Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,391	Re: The Kongregate Brag Thread! Add me to the list ;P Kong Accnt : Half ^.^

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