TWG 197 - TWGood End 2

[_Zenith_]

You both need a breather and reread what's been said so far because every question this far has been answered

[cedolad]

So it's 4-1 if believe Zenith is the watcher and MML was a wolf that didn't flip because of the item zenith had. It's auto from that perspective because the lynch pool is Xel/Me.

From my perspective, it's 3-2, and Zenith is lying about his cc of Watcher to MML, because the game text says he targeted MML when it would be the other way around. And the lynch pool is Me/Zenith/Xel.

[SubaruPoptart]

what the fuuuck

[SubaruPoptart]

WAIT _Zenith_ how long have you had that item.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

WAIT _Zenith_ how long have you had that item.

I got t after I visited Funny

[cedolad]

You literally said Xiz gave you the item, and now you're saying you got it from Funny. So when did you lie? When you first claimed the item, or just now after I've caught you lying?

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by cedolad

You literally said Xiz gave you the item, and now you're saying you got it from Funny. So when did you lie? When you first claimed the item, or just now after I've caught you lying?

Wait. is it even possible to give items? (Outside of Xiz, ofc) Because Funnygurl555 was the "True Phantom Thief" or whatever, so I can see her somehow getting it from Xiz via theft. But like- how would _Zenith_ have come across't it without also having theft of his own

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by cedolad

You literally said Xiz gave you the item, and now you're saying you got it from Funny. So when did you lie? When you first claimed the item, or just now after I've caught you lying?

How did my item work then, care to debunk that?

It had to go through Funny in some way if the items Xiz could have given are truly fake. This is actually something I've thought about and truly don't know the machinations of it because c h a o s and I don't have the info both of them do about items, thievery, and the such.

I know Bug is a fucking idiot for backing down on his hard Cedo wolf read literally last phase, like what the fuck are you doing? Will you not listen to any logic train or do you just get swayed instantly at whatever text your eyes decide to land on?

I have Cedo visiting Xel last night, and the only possible thing that could do that is the remaining Wolf. Even so, if you're eager to discuss hypotheticals which we literally shouldn't be doing, the game is STILL AUTO. You lynch Cedo, it's 3-1, I die, it becomes 2-1, you have two clears in final three, and the game is finished. How are you three not understanding that, and once again Xel is the fucking one who pointed it out in the first place.

Throwback to when I entered this phase by saying MML had the perfect deep wolf situation where he literally had a fake PR claim going, bussed and killed his wolf partner Funny, and nobody would've been the wiser or even had a second thought about him if I didn't step in because I finally have time outside of work to talk.

[SubaruPoptart]

Because I also had another thought: does the misdirect kill the person regardless of the action they do on them a la Veteran Town of Salem style? Or only nightkill attempts?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Because I also had another thought: does the misdirect kill the person regardless of the action they do on them a la Veteran Town of Salem style? Or only nightkill attempts?

It said killing action, so any possible way I could've died I'm assuming, like a vigi would have died if they selected me, or a wolf in our case here

[SubaruPoptart]

So like, say MixMasterLar actually is the Watcher, and he went to watch _Zenith_, but since _Zenith_ targeted MixMasterLar with the "Misdirect", he ended up dying.

Is that a possibility with this item?

[SubaruPoptart]

I gotta walk up to school real quick so I'll be back in hopefully either 30 minutes, or about 4 hours; depends on how stuff's going to work cuz it's raining.

[SubaruPoptart]

Yeah the origin of the item doesn't make sense; I'm waiting for XelNya to come in before I do a vote. If it's this 4-1 world like cedo(?) keeps proposing I'm feeling comfortable, but I'm concerned that the 3-2 world is how it is.

[cedolad]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Yeah the origin of the item doesn't make sense; I'm waiting for XelNya to come in before I do a vote. If it's this 4-1 world like cedo(?) keeps proposing I'm feeling comfortable, but I'm concerned that the 3-2 world is how it is.

Zenith said its 4-1, I said from my perspective it's 3-2.

[SubaruPoptart]

I have like 20 minutes 'fore I gotta walk back home again so what's poppin.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I have like 20 minutes 'fore I gotta walk back home again so what's poppin.

Not a lot, still in bed tbh

[bugkid666]

So essentially it’s
Town
suburu
bug

Most likely wolf
Zenith

???
Cedo
Xelnya

From today’s convo I’d be willing to guess cedo is town-leaning (and especially because of Zenith’s immediate vote on Cedo) Before Xelnya mentions anything, where are we at with him?

[SubaruPoptart]

Because the other issue is: _Zenith_ is claiming PR, which if that's true leaves only one VT, and two wolves.

If _Zenith_ is the only other wolf, that means cedolad is VanillaTown if we're to believe his whole "I don't have a night action lol" thing, and XELNYA is the PR. Which is a clusterfuck in and of itself because he's not here yet.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

Because the other issue is: _Zenith_ is claiming PR, which if that's true leaves only one VT, and two wolves.

If _Zenith_ is the only other wolf, that means cedolad is VanillaTown if we're to believe his whole "I don't have a night action lol" thing, and XELNYA is the PR. Which is a clusterfuck in and of itself because he's not here yet.

What if MML was PR (Watcher) like he said?

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

What if MML was PR (Watcher) like he said?

I DON'T think that could be the case... now that I think about it- because so let's see. that'd mean all PRs are dead, and that leaves 1 Vanilla Town unidentified.

_Zenith_, XelNya, bugkid666, cedolad, SubaruPoptart.


By that logic that'd mean uhh- that'd mean there'd be three wolves left and only two towns, and then the game would be over. So hold the fuck up