TWG CXLI - SlopeFiring at the Olympics (Game Thread)

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by rzr

I take it this is where the mason talk scomes from. But aren't all the people bringing it up already gone? This mystery game is fucking with my head and we need to really peg some scum today. So, what about these masons/lovers can we use to our advantage? And is it possible this 3rd party role, if it exists, could have an effect on them?



I have seen this a few times since the EoN, I need to know what it means?



This is what I was getting at, but I just can't see a way for it to be helpful. I mean I guess we could oust them and tunnel hard making a group decision and if it goes awry we know the other one is left, and that's all assuming they are aligned on the same team because if one is lynched and the other one remains alive it means they were, right?
Flipside is they do come out and are on different teams and we lynch one either way the other dies? That, to me, is not sufficent enough to lynch someone we/they might not even know how it would go.
Idk, maybe someone can shed some light on that for me.



Still haven't figured that out, but he's like theonly deceased who hasn't viewed the thread since then, right? Does he count as a part of one of us still?


Yeah, just curious why he hasn't.


Side note since this is where I am on the thread, yes, this was very sad to read.



Sup?



You seem to really have your sights locked on Zenith, you also said he's your biggest scumread right? Why?

Wait a minute I'm 99% sure this is the post that concluded his claim beforehand.

[_Zenith_]

Now I'm heading for my nap

Benguin

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

is this a slip?

also why are you still reading people based off of their roles?

how am I basing my reads off peoples roles? round says he megaphone and his claim adds up. t force is what, just lying about being the baker? the game events add up that way, so I clear them on my list. again, for me it's the same thing as lurker/ben you/me. seems like your fishing too hard here man. but i will admit im having trouble differentiating the concept of roles not being aligned

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

AragakiAyase - dont know him. with the n1 power that supposedly screwed up round's PM that is one of my biggest red flags here, though from talking to him I get a town feel. still null ish

Originally Posted by rzr

T force wouldn't be a wolf I highly doubt a wolf could give away cakes.

not basing reads off of people's roles?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by rzr

round says he megaphone and his claim adds up. t force is what, just lying about being the baker? the game events add up that way, so I clear them on my list.

did you miss this?

im not saying nobody is beyond suspicion, but don't bitch when I give you my reads list because it's not good enough for you. I think many other people here would say the same things about round and T force.

You don't seem to grasp what I'm sying about lurker/ben and you/me. I believe either you are a wolf and ben is too, or both of us are humans and both of them are wolves

[rzr]

think about it, roundbox megaphoned the first night, got RNG on himself. so what did the megaphone read that day? the megaphones role. either he knew who it was and lied, taking that role on as his own and the real mega hasn't come out, or he's dad. which wouldn't be possible if round mega'd a mason.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

did you miss this?

im not saying nobody is beyond suspicion, but don't bitch when I give you my reads list because it's not good enough for you. I think many other people here would say the same things about round and T force.

You don't seem to grasp what I'm sying about lurker/ben and you/me. I believe either you are a wolf and ben is too, or both of us are humans and both of them are wolves

I'm not bitching about it I'm just saying it's bad, especially because you're using roles to be alignment indicative. I townread t-force for reasons other than his role whereas you seem to be doing it largely off of what his role does. And in the earlier post that I quoted you were scumreading me based off of what my role does, when in both cases they aren't alignment indicative. If you're scumreading me for my posting style or some interaction or something else that's one thing, but thinking I'm suspicious because of what my role does is nonsensical. I never said anything about what you were saying about lurker/ben and you/me so I don't know why you're brining that up.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

think about it, roundbox megaphoned the first night, got RNG on himself. so what did the megaphone read that day? the megaphones role. either he knew who it was and lied, taking that role on as his own and the real mega hasn't come out, or he's dad. which wouldn't be possible if round mega'd a mason.

I'm not questioning his role/claim, but just because he's upfront about what his role does doesn't clear him, just like my outing myself doesn't clear me.

[AragakiAyase]

the issue is that you're equating not lying about role with being town when that's flawed reasoning

[YoshL]

Votes from post 1280 to post 1509
Night in 7:44:23
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 1 -- rzr -- lurker (19)
• 1 -- reuben_tate -- _Zenith_ (60)
• 1 -- unvote -- AragakiAyase (68)
• 5 -- not voting -- reuben_tate (0), roundbox (19), rzr (26), T-Force (16), XelNya (20)

5 to insta.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm not questioning his role/claim, but just because he's upfront about what his role does doesn't clear him, just like my outing myself doesn't clear me.

This is fair. But it seems to me that you and I are going back and forth on a subject we can't actually come up with an answer on. why don't you tell me your opinions/reads on these guys?

[rzr]

actually working on creating a pretty awesome game for you guys, I'll be around for another hour or so but my EoD activity will be shitty, ill try to do what I did last night if you guys don't mind lol

[T-Force]

Zenith, pay close attention because if you are indeed town, this is why you need to unbunch your panties.

In the case that Zenith is correct and Ben is a wolf, while lurker is human, both die, and we're at 4-2 with a nightkill or two; the game is NOT over assuming Xel shoots correctly.
If Ben is human, no matter what, Zenith, you'd be shot.

However, if we lynch rzr and he flips wolf, woo, we're at 5-2 with a vigi shot still. If Xel doesn't take it, then we stay up 4-2.

I'm much more comfortable going into the next day up 2 town (or 1 town after vigi shot) versus up only 1 with a prayer that Xel shoots correctly.

The key factor is that there's a potential we lose 2 players with 1 lynch. This is why rzr is the safest lynch today. I'm satisfied with this vote. If I am wrong, and wolves voterush him, I am content regardless because this game has been a mess.



PS. Brain blast. There's no chance, even if this game is randomed, that both OoC comms are wolves. Loom again at the Megaphone's PM outing: "You have OoC comms with x person at night."
Basically it's giving then a power that wolves already haveso there is literally no sense in giving them OoC.

This is also why lynching Ben is a bad idea because, no matter what, a town dies in that lynch.

//slopefiring

[T-Force]

Dammit phone, that post was supposed to be awesome and you made me typo.

Look, not loom (regarding Megaphone)

[T-Force]

Either way, Roundbox is pretty green to me, and I'm content with a townread on Xel for now.

Zenith, you're a mix because, if you're town, you need to put your ego aside for the greater good at the moment. If you're right, so be it, we lynch him tomorrow. ESPECIALLY if you're nightkilled and you flip what you say you are. Knowing this, the wolves will likely leave you alive to get another read.

Oh and lurker is probably town because of Ben.

Which means wolves are AA/rzr/Ben. The only other possibilities I see are Xel/rzr/Ben, or Zenith/rzr/Ben.

I don't see both randomizers being wolves, not do I see both masons being wolves.




.... Shit. By my logic, Zenith is wolf, and bussing his teammate HARD. This explains why he's so eager to see Ben gone, but not rzr despite Zenith reading rzr wolf.

Ugh.... Now I'm second guessing Roundbox too.. Is his role truly town aligned? Or could it possibly be wolfy...



Either way, rzr and Ben are all but confirmed. So let's take the safe train out of here and lynch him.

[T-Force]

.... Nor instead of not..

[T-Force]

Oh, and by him, I mean rzr.

[rzr]

T, I still don't see how you guys say I'm "confirmed" but it seems like no matter how much I defend myself and try to show you I'm sincere you just disregard my posts.
I'm not going to sit back and let myself die when it's really the only day we have left to do anything bout this.
If you guys really believe Ben is confirmed and I am then I don't know why you don't at least take my actions into consideration. Call this self preservation, call it defensive, call it whatever you want besides bullshit.
Zenith says he visited Ben and it came back red. That's the only thing I see here that's worth basing a vote off of and as much as I've avoided being part of the wagon this whole game, I'm voting [twg]ben[/twg]. It's right in our faces, he's been here one time the whole game. It seems silly to ignore this

[rzr]

is it just me that has a problem with these tags lol rueben

[rzr]

Originally Posted by T-Force

.... Shit. By my logic, Zenith is wolf, and bussing his teammate HARD. This explains why he's so eager to see Ben gone, but not rzr despite Zenith reading rzr wolf.

And for whatever it's worth I have seen nothing stated saying Zenith visited me.. if anything he tried to show you guys my original/accidental soft.
Zenith, did you visit me? Did you visit someone on n1 and have it RNG'd to another player maybe??