Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[Gano]

Zelda's final smash is cool, Light Arrows yay! However it seems weaker than most other smashes, since it's just a straight shot, maybe it's insta-kill like the bat or something.

[Matthew4444]

The last picture shown is of Shiek. It's a more horizontal distance throw rather than an angled throw.

And the GFAQs SSBBGB is going crazy because most people can't see the update for some reason.

[Shamo0]

Aw matthew you beat me to posting it! This is great news and we totally surprized nintendo by figuring this out! Freaking sweet.

[Squeek]

Just to point out, Nintendo confirmed the leak and the characters.

This does more than just give us three new characters. This proves that background characters outside of the influence of the Brawl site exist. With the game coming out in 10 days in Japan, they only have 7 more Dojo updates before they're officially done.

So far this list is right:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...2&postcount=48

[dauthik]

anyone think Fox or Shiek will be nerfed? perhaps to the epic proportions that Pikachu was nerfed from SSB to SSBM?

[tsugomaru]

It would all be speculation. Anything that I say will only comfort you but it may not be true.

~Tsugomaru

[chemicalrabbit]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Just to point out, Nintendo confirmed the leak and the characters.

This does more than just give us three new characters. This proves that background characters outside of the influence of the Brawl site exist. With the game coming out in 10 days in Japan, they only have 7 more Dojo updates before they're officially done.

So far this list is right:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...2&postcount=48

Where's the proof?

[Squeek]

There's no proof for that list. It's just a rumor.

As for the images confirming Ness, Lucario, and Jigglypuff, the videos have since been edited to cover them up. That's proof enough for me. Nintendo refuses to comment on rumors and speculation about any game they make, so it's impossible to get a yes or a no from them.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by dauthik

anyone think Fox or Shiek will be nerfed? perhaps to the epic proportions that Pikachu was nerfed from SSB to SSBM?

I would assume they would aim for a more balanced game and now that it is online there might be patches to try and balance out characters.

[Squeek]

Wii can't handle patches.

They'd have to be ridiculously small as the internal memory is only 512mb. Saves, system updates, and channels take up a good majority of that space.

Like I said in the x360 thread. Nintendo developers have to take more care in the games they make because they can't just release a patch if they miss something.

[l2awr]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Wii can't handle patches.

They'd have to be ridiculously small as the internal memory is only 512mb. Saves, system updates, and channels take up a good majority of that space.

Like I said in the x360 thread. Nintendo developers have to take more care in the games they make because they can't just release a patch if they miss something.

Damn. Thats pretty lame.

[Squeek]

On the contrary, it's pretty awesome.

Like I said before, it forces developers to put time and effort into their games so they don't have to send out replacement discs. And like I said before, Activision is the first company to fall victim to this with Guitar Hero III.

[Matthew4444]

What, you mean replacement disks? I seem to recall a couple of Nintendo games that had game-breaking errors. I think WW: Touched! had an error where it wouldn't work on certain first-generation DSs for a couple of the minigames.

[Squeek]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/...sion-sued.html

[travman301]

Why is he sueing if they already agreed to replace the bad disks?

[Relambrien]

Back on the subject of Brawl, leak-fever is consuming SmashBoards. Apparently some guy posted a video of a 21-character starting roster for Brawl on YouTube. You can find it here.

There's also a 35-character final roster rumor going around, and there have been several "proofs" and "debunks," and I can't be bothered reading them all.

Just relaying gossip, not saying that any of this is necessarily true.

As an aside, here are the characters as claimed by the 35-character roster:

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Yoshi
Wario
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Young Link (Wind Waker-style)
Samus
Pit
Ice Climbers
Captain Falcon
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Captain Olimar
Fox
Falco
Wolf
R.O.B. (See note at bottom)
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Marth
Ike
Ness
Lucas
Mr. Game and Watch
Snake
Sonic

Note about R.O.B.: This has been the primary subject of dispute in determining the validity of this roster. Apparently, all possible versions of R.O.B. were deconfirmed by pictures showing them as trophies (since something being a standard trophy makes it extremely unlikely that they will be playable). However, there were some counterarguments, and rejoinders, and I didn't pay much attention past that point.

I'm not going to bother thinking about whether or not the whole thing is true, because we'll know more or less everything in terms of developer-intended gameplay within two weeks.

[Squeek]

Come on people.

This is not the 1990s.

Learn how to take video footage of things.

@Relam: Since you didn't write the list and don't endorse it, this isn't really directed at you.

Ridley has been rumored to be a playable character for over a year now. And the voice actress who does Krystal's American voice has Brawl on her credits page.

Thus, I highly doubt that list is final.

Also, R.O.B.? ROB is not a video game character.

[zidart]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Come on people.

This is not the 1990s.

Learn how to take video footage of things.

@Relam: Since you didn't write the list and don't endorse it, this isn't really directed at you.

Ridley has been rumored to be a playable character for over a year now. And the voice actress who does Krystal's American voice has Brawl on her credits page.

Thus, I highly doubt that list is final.

Also, R.O.B.? ROB is not a video game character.

actually you're wrong.. he appeard in mario kart DS as a playable character... however i can't belive that he is playable here in brawl

[Relambrien]

I believe there was a character called R.O.B. in StarFox 64? There was some mention of that over at SmashBoards. I've never played the game, so I've no way of knowing for sure, but some people are claiming that that R.O.B. is the one referenced.

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by Relambrien

I believe there was a character called R.O.B. in StarFox 64? There was some mention of that over at SmashBoards. I've never played the game, so I've no way of knowing for sure, but some people are claiming that that R.O.B. is the one referenced.

Even if it's that ROB, he's an NPC. He's a maintenance bot.

He's the last person from Star Fox I'd think to include in the game.

@zidart: an unlockable bonus character in a spin-off from a franchise is not a character worthy of Brawl. Main characters from franchise hits. That's it.

R.O.B. was designed for two NES games. Neither of which starred R.O.B.

So you're right. No chance he's in Brawl.