Ingame Song Information - Page 66

**EnR** · 07-21-2008, 01:53 AM

just a small thing but GGC is 160 bpm and not 320 xD

**blindreper1179** · 07-21-2008, 02:30 AM

idk, lethal injection was fairly easy with avmiss fix. i got it in about 4 tries from playing it every once in a while. as long as you know what the file is like, it's a piece of cake really. i'd say keep it at a 8 for sure.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-21-2008, 02:42 AM

blind: i'm not talking about FC.... this is in terms of it being a nightmare to PA. as was inferred by all of my commentary above.

put it this way... i have a AAA on all by 6 difficulty 8 songs. 1 booflag, 3 BFed, 3 goods on Max Forever, and then 11 or 12 on Lethal. So ~100 AAAs, 4 BFs or less, 1 3 goods on the hardest 8 there is, and then not even an SDG on Lethal. it doesn't add up.

**blindreper1179** · 07-21-2008, 02:45 AM

oh sorry, i meant to say i AAA'd it in four tries. my bad.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-21-2008, 03:00 AM

oh. wow. i mean, there are only 25 AAAs on it... and almost every name on that list is T2 or better. 20+ of the 25, at least. don't know where your skill level falls blind. maybe it's just your type of song?

i mean, 11-0-0-2 is rank 100. that's pretty damn hard for an 8.

**blindreper1179** · 07-21-2008, 03:02 AM

well, i guess your kind of right. i don't know why it seems so hard to everyone? it's just kind of long. nothing too big =/ like you said though, it's probably my type of song.

Crizo92 · 07-21-2008, 03:13 AM

Hm, is Monstrous Turtles a VC because of the stream?
Just wondering, I think it's a lot easier than almost all VC's.

**MyRoseTearsBlood** · 07-21-2008, 03:25 AM

The 32nd stream in MT makes it competent as a VC to me. The stream patterns get ugly.

Crizo92 · 07-21-2008, 03:27 AM

It must be hard for spread then.

I play index. =|

There's trills I guess, forgot about that.

**blindreper1179** · 07-21-2008, 03:27 AM

yeah, idk why but i haven't been able to get less than four goods. i haven't tried for awhile since my comps are bugged/vista'd, but it's pretty tricky and fast, which is fun. the trills don't really matter tooo much though because they're just mini trills.

Xx{Midday}xX · 07-21-2008, 03:33 AM

I think most people get goods on the mini runningmen. wut

I still think it should be a challenging anyway. Same reason Vertex BETA dropped from FMO to VC. The stream speed isn't any faster than Over the Frail Dream.

**blindreper1179** · 07-21-2008, 03:48 AM

VB is longer stream. OtFD is short runs of stream.

Xx{Midday}xX · 07-21-2008, 05:27 AM

Monstrous Turtles is basically as hard as Over the Frail Dream imo. Is all I was saying. I wasn't comparing OtFD to VB. VB dropped from FMO to VC after avmisses disappeared. MT should do the same.

But, probably most people (not including me), have difficulty with Monstrous Turtle's stream patterns which have minitrill/minirunningmen in it. Which is why it's a VC. From my persepctive, it's no different from OtFD now that avmisses are gone.

**Shashakiro** · 07-21-2008, 11:20 AM

MT has way weirder patterns than OTFD.

Considering Carrousel Paradise is a 10, and that's only for weird patterns...I think MT fits as a 10.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-21-2008, 12:17 PM

MT is fine as a ten. long stream, weird patterns, and not sure about others... but i find the 32nd stream much harder to read than the identical 16th stream.

**TC_Halogen** · 07-21-2008, 12:23 PM

Hmmm, any thoughts on Garyuutensei? (sorry if it's been mentioned before.)

It's really pushy for a VC.

**EnR** · 07-21-2008, 01:08 PM

MT patterns aren't weird......they're index patterns.

**s0ulst0n3** · 07-21-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Hmmm, any thoughts on Garyuutensei? (sorry if it's been mentioned before.)

I feel Garyuutensei and Szerencsetlen should both be low FMO's, but that's just me. They feel around that difficulty.

As for Monstrous, I think it should stay as a 10. Although it is 32nd stream, has short runningmen and awkward patterns in the stream, it's not too hard overall. Plus average-misses are gone, maybe back then it would be a low FMO, but it shall remain a VC IMO.

Xx{Midday}xX · 07-21-2008, 03:49 PM

Garyuutensei is easier than Xeno-Flow.

Szerencsetlen is like Hajnal minus triple rolls.

Both fine VCs. FMO already scopes too much of a range. Going on -Spring Wind-/Choprite is borderline. There's already a big difference between Choprite and Piano Etude (Gymnastics) you know. But they're both FMOs.

EDIT: What EnR said... I don't find them awkward for spread anyway.

**EnR** · 07-21-2008, 03:52 PM

Ugh, stop calling the MT streams awkward. THEY'RE NOT. They're index streams. For an index player, spread patterns are awkward. so that means every kind of stream is awkward to someone which defeats the purpose of awkward streams.

07-21-2008, 01:53 AM	#1301
EnR Massive flaming dildos. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A-Town, Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 8,431	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 just a small thing but GGC is 160 bpm and not 320 xD __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-21-2008, 02:42 AM	#1303
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 blind: i'm not talking about FC.... this is in terms of it being a nightmare to PA. as was inferred by all of my commentary above. put it this way... i have a AAA on all by 6 difficulty 8 songs. 1 booflag, 3 BFed, 3 goods on Max Forever, and then 11 or 12 on Lethal. So ~100 AAAs, 4 BFs or less, 1 3 goods on the hardest 8 there is, and then not even an SDG on Lethal. it doesn't add up. __________________ RIP

07-21-2008, 03:00 AM	#1305
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 oh. wow. i mean, there are only 25 AAAs on it... and almost every name on that list is T2 or better. 20+ of the 25, at least. don't know where your skill level falls blind. maybe it's just your type of song? i mean, 11-0-0-2 is rank 100. that's pretty damn hard for an 8. __________________ RIP

07-21-2008, 03:13 AM	#1307
Crizo92 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fargo, North Dakota Age: 31 Posts: 191	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Hm, is Monstrous Turtles a VC because of the stream? Just wondering, I think it's a lot easier than almost all VC's.

07-21-2008, 03:25 AM	#1308
MyRoseTearsBlood FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 14 Billion Club, New York Age: 33 Posts: 698	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 The 32nd stream in MT makes it competent as a VC to me. The stream patterns get ugly. __________________ FUS RO DAH!

07-21-2008, 03:27 AM	#1309
Crizo92 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fargo, North Dakota Age: 31 Posts: 191	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 It must be hard for spread then. I play index. =\| There's trills I guess, forgot about that.

07-21-2008, 03:33 AM	#1311
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I think most people get goods on the mini runningmen. wut I still think it should be a challenging anyway. Same reason Vertex BETA dropped from FMO to VC. The stream speed isn't any faster than Over the Frail Dream. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

07-21-2008, 05:27 AM	#1313
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Monstrous Turtles is basically as hard as Over the Frail Dream imo. Is all I was saying. I wasn't comparing OtFD to VB. VB dropped from FMO to VC after avmisses disappeared. MT should do the same. But, probably most people (not including me), have difficulty with Monstrous Turtle's stream patterns which have minitrill/minirunningmen in it. Which is why it's a VC. From my persepctive, it's no different from OtFD now that avmisses are gone. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 07-21-2008 at 05:30 AM..

07-21-2008, 12:17 PM	#1315
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 MT is fine as a ten. long stream, weird patterns, and not sure about others... but i find the 32nd stream much harder to read than the identical 16th stream. __________________ RIP

07-21-2008, 12:23 PM	#1316
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Hmmm, any thoughts on Garyuutensei? (sorry if it's been mentioned before.) It's really pushy for a VC.

07-21-2008, 01:08 PM	#1317
EnR Massive flaming dildos. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A-Town, Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 8,431	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 MT patterns aren't weird......they're index patterns. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-21-2008, 03:49 PM	#1319
Xx{Midday}xX FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: My own world. Miserable. Disgusting. Appalling. Pessimistic. Horrific. Terrible. Posts: 3,518	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Garyuutensei is easier than Xeno-Flow. Szerencsetlen is like Hajnal minus triple rolls. Both fine VCs. FMO already scopes too much of a range. Going on -Spring Wind-/Choprite is borderline. There's already a big difference between Choprite and Piano Etude (Gymnastics) you know. But they're both FMOs. EDIT: What EnR said... I don't find them awkward for spread anyway. __________________ Any *FFR song title* discrepancies? List them here. Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free *Accumulating all playstyles here!* つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`) Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 07-21-2008 at 03:57 PM..

07-21-2008, 03:52 PM	#1320
EnR Massive flaming dildos. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A-Town, Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 8,431	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Ugh, stop calling the MT streams awkward. THEY'RE NOT. They're index streams. For an index player, spread patterns are awkward. so that means every kind of stream is awkward to someone which defeats the purpose of awkward streams. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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